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16 February 2018


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  1. lurcher1948

     /  February 16, 2018

    Guns don’t kill school pupils but a human holding that gun can and I have found that prays and thoughts don’t stop bullets.NRA and Trump POTUS#45 joined at the hip…

    • Corky

       /  February 16, 2018

      Quite right. Guns don’t kill people. Neither do cars and planes. Funny how this problem has become worse over the years. As society disintegrates along all vectors this type of violence increases.

      So let’s ban guns. No problem, people will use cars and knives. The on difference – the body count wont be so high. That wont last long though.

      Why don’t militia and crazy survivalists figure high in these types of shootings?

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 16, 2018

        Try driving a car through a school or killing 17 people and wounding ? others with a knife.

        • Corky

           /  February 16, 2018

          You have no idea regarding strategy. Tell me, how many school shootings have happened this year in America?

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  February 16, 2018

            8 – in 6 weeks.

            How do you think that it could have been stopped ?

            • Corky

               /  February 16, 2018

              Included in those stats are suicides, rouge bullet strikes, pupil accidentally discharging an officers pistol.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 17, 2018

              What’s a rouge bullet ?

            • Corky

               /  February 17, 2018

              Also known as a ”pretty bullet.” Please research before posting.

          • Gezza

             /  February 16, 2018

            … … … … …

            “Here is a list of all 18 shootings included in Everytown’s original tally, ranked from most to least severe:

            Parkland, Florida – Feb. 14, 2018

            A 19-year-old former student entered Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School and opened fire, killing 17 and injuring multiple others. The school was put into lockdown. The incident has been ranked as one of the top 10 deadliest mass shootings in modern U.S. history.

            January 23, 2018 – Benton, Kentucky

            A 15-year-old student brought a handgun to Marshall County High School and opened fire in the school’s atrium, leaving two dead and 17 injured, the Associated Press reported.

            January 31, 2018 – Philadelphia, PA

            A 32-year-old man was shot and killed outside of Lincoln High School during a basketball game. Police responded to reports of a fight, and said at least three different weapons were discharged. The school was put into lockdown, according to the AP.

            January 22, 2018 – Italy, Texas

            A 16-year-old student at Italy High School opened fire with a semi-automatic handgun in the school cafeteria. The gunman wounded a fellow student, who later recovered, the AP reported. The school was placed under lockdown, following the incident.

            January 20, 2018 – Winston-Salem, NC

            A 21-year-old football player, Najee Ali Baker, was shot and critically injured following an altercation at a Wake Forest University party. Baker was taken to a hospital, where he succumbed to his injury, according to WTHI-TV.

            January 10, 2018 – Sierra Vista, AZ

            A 14-year-old student at Coronado Elementary School shot himself in the bathroom at school. The shooting was initially reported as an active shooter, forcing the school into lockdown. The seventh grader was pronounced dead at the scene, USA Today reported.

            February 5, 2018 – Oxon Hill, Maryland

            An Oxon Hill High School junior was shot twice in a school parking lot, during what police say was an attempted robbery. The 17-year-old later recovered. The shooting took place on school grounds, but after school hours, AP reported.

            February 1, 2018 – Los Angeles, CA

            A 12-year-old student at Salvador B. Castro Middle School was charged with negligent discharge of a firearm after a semi-automatic rifle she brought to school went off. Four students were injured, and the school was placed on lockdown for several hours, USA Today reported.

            February 8, 2018 – New York, NY

            A 17 year-old student fired a gun, hitting the floor of a classroom at Metropolitan High School. Police took the student in custody, but no injuries were reported, ABC7 reported.

            January 22, 2018 – Gentilly, LA

            An unknown person in a pickup truck drove past The NET Charter High School and fired shots at students standing in the campus parking lot. One boy was injured, but not by gunfire. Two students were arrested on suspicion and the school was temporarily placed into lockdown, according to the The Times-Picayune.

            January 15, 2018 – Marshall, TX

            Gunshots were fired from a vehicle in the parking lot of a dorm at Wiley College. A bullet was found to have gone through a window into a dorm room, but none of the residents were injured.

            January 10, 2018 – San Bernadino, CA

            Gunshots came through a window at California State University. The university immediately went into lockdown. No suspects were identified and no injuries were reported, AP reported.

            January 4, 2018 – Seattle, WA

            Shots were fired by an unidentified shooter into an administrative office at New Start High School. The school went into lockdown, though no injuries were reported, according to KIRO 7.

            January 26, 2018 – Dearborn, MI

            A fight broke out during a basketball game at Dearborn High School. School officials removed the two persons involved, who were not students. Shots were later fired in the parking lot, but no injuries were reported, according to WXYZ Detroit.

            January 25, 2018 – Mobile, AL – A disagreement between two 16-year-old students at Murphy High School escalated when one of them pulled out a handgun. The student with the handgun then fled school administrators, who tried to calm him, firing four or five times into the air. Nobody was injured, according to Fox 10. The suspect was taken into custody and charged for multiple offenses, including possession of a weapon on school property.

            February 5, 2018 – Maplewood, MN

            A third-grader at Harmony Learning Center pressed the trigger on a school liaison officer’s gun. Although the weapon was outfitted with a trigger guard, it discharged and hit the floor. No injuries were reported.

            January 10, 2018 – Denison, TX

            A student at Greyson College picked up a gun, belonging to an advisor. She discharged the weapon, believing it was not loaded and shot through the wall. There were no injuries and no charges filed, KXII reported.

            January 3, 2018 – St. Johns, Michigan

            A 31-year-old man died by suicide in the parking lot of East Olive Elementary School. There were no students or staff at the scene, because the school had been closed for seven months, WILX reported. This is the incident Everytown decided to remove from their list of school shootings.”

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  February 17, 2018

            18 .

  2. Corky

     /  February 16, 2018

    Had a relly ring up and ask me to contact Winz to find out when those fellas will start paying our power bills. I said I would rather not, but was reminded of land shares I would inherit, so I got on with it quick smart.

    I was doing well at the 20 minute mark waiting for an operator. However, the music changed to Israel Kamakawiwo’Ole singing ‘ Some where over the rainbow” That had me dozing.

    Then a crackle on the line woke me: ” Jeremy here. How may I help?” Jeremy had no idea what I was talking about. But he finally came back to me with some answers:

    All people entitled to the power subsidy will have it automatically credited to their accounts.
    You may opt out if you want (lol). The scheme will run from July 1 to September 1. Jeremy wasn’t sure about the pay scale but apparently it varies. The only solid piece of information
    re payments was people on a Work Seekers benefit will receive $20 a week.

    That information seems to vary from the hype we were fed pre election about the scheme running from May and totalling roughly $ 800 per year. Still, if Winz doesn’t know, who does?

    • 2Tru

       /  February 16, 2018

      I got the following info in the last MSD Seniors email:
      The Government has announced a new Winter Energy Payment.
      “The Winter Energy Payment is an investment in Seniors and others, to help them stay healthy over the winter months,” says Minister for Seniors Tracey Martin.
      “What’s great is that you don’t need to apply for the payment. Everyone getting NZ Super or the Veteran’s Pension will receive it automatically.”
      The Winter Energy Payment will be paid with your NZ Super or Veteran’s Pension.
      The rate for single people (with no dependants) will be $20.46 a week, and couples or people with dependants will get $31.82 a week. Payments will be made from 1 July to 30 September in 2018, and 1 May to 1 October in 2019.
      People who get a Residential Care Subsidy or a Residential Support Subsidy are not eligible for the Winter Energy Payment.
      Not everyone will want to receive this payment therefore you can choose to opt out. If your circumstances change you can then choose to opt back in.
      The Winter Energy Payment doesn’t affect your eligibility for other support such as the Disability Allowance, Accommodation Supplement, Temporary Additional Support or Childcare Assistance.
      If you travel overseas for four weeks or more your Winter Energy Payment will stop. Once you return to New Zealand you can restart payments by contacting Work and Income.
      For more information visit and search for Families Package.

      • Corky

         /  February 16, 2018

        I should have done that in the beginning. I wonder who hired Jeremy? At least he got a few things right. Good on ya, Jeremy.

      • Gezza

         /  February 16, 2018

        Someone must have told them Winter is programmed to arrive on 1 July this year, & but on 1 May in 2019?

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  February 16, 2018

          What about older people on Jobseekers who have to pay power and everything else out of $209 a week ? Let the buggers freeze, I suppose.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  February 16, 2018

            July and August are eight weeks in round figures, and 8 x 20 = 160, not 800. It would be $100 a week if the promise made was kept, ha ha.

  3. lurcher1948

     /  February 16, 2018

    Just watching the whities down south selling ALL crayfish to china and everything else these ferals can sell to china, does any one remember when we could eat our own tucker???THANKS BILL ENGLISH and the smiling assaisin KEY he getting ALL THE PAYBACKS

  4. lurcher1948

     /  February 16, 2018

    Does anyone remember reality, its nearly a 4 letter word…

  5. lurcher1948

     /  February 16, 2018

    who deserves this