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19 February 2018

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    • David

       /  February 19, 2018

      There has been some interesting commentary on this, The View was particularly vicious on it, and once again its quite ok to have a crack at a conservative christians but you never ever get the same approach to Islam.
      Personally I think they should all be mocked but there is a massive double standard.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 19, 2018

        I have read a lot of insulting remarks about Islam and Nelly Smickers and others used to post some gross cartoons that were crude and indecent and wouldn’t be funny no matter who the target was.

        I knew a girl at university who was convinced that she and ‘the Lord’ had a special relationship, one not vouched to many, if any, others. The Lord told her this and that-she prayed to be told what the exam questions would be on so as to save time on revision and knew that The Lord would tell her.. The Lord told her that He had chosen a husband for her, which terrified all the boys in her circle. If XXXXX had decided that some lucky chap was the one that The Lord had chosen, he’d have no chance. He might as well buy the ring and hire the suit now.

        I used to think of XXXXX when a Shih Tzu bitch up the road fell madly in love with my Maltese. If they’d been people, my poor doggy would have had no chance. Suzie (Shih Tzu) used to stand with her face under our gate, gazing in and totally unnerving my poor boy.

  1. robertguyton

     /  February 19, 2018

    “Oh and on a quite different note; the collapse of global fish stocks is in steep decline.”

    Posted: https://yournz.org/2018/02/19/collapse-of-global-fish-stocks/

    • PDB

       /  February 19, 2018

      The Greens will save us! Nup – sold out to Winston’s fishing buddies *sigh*

  2. robertguyton

     /  February 19, 2018

    David Mac 25
    18 February 2018 at 9:09 pm
    “To give herself a fighting chance I think one of hardest things Judith has to do in the next while is to approach her dear friend Cameron Slater and request that he stop openly supporting her.

    Right or wrong, we are judged by the company we keep.”

    • David

       /  February 19, 2018

      Has your good friend paid back the money they owe social welfare yet, perhaps you should call her and tell her to get on with it.

      • robertguyton

         /  February 19, 2018

        Petty snark. I suppose you revelled in sniping at Penny Bright, ad nauseum, about her non-payment of rates. Some people are more shallow than the sweat on the head of a Neo Nazi at a Hero parade.

        • Gezza

           /  February 19, 2018

          Do you pay rates Robert?

          • Gezza

             /  February 19, 2018

            Robert?

          • robertguyton

             /  February 19, 2018

            Yes. You?

            • Gezza

               /  February 19, 2018

              Mostly. Ok, always.

              Do you think Penny shouldn’t have to pay her rates, & if so why, when every other ratepayer has to?

            • robertguyton

               /  February 19, 2018

              Gezza – I have no view or interest in Penny Bright’s situation re her rate payments. I was commenting on the practice of some blog commenters who squark over and over about it, somehow thinking they are scoring points…or something…by bullying online.

            • Gezza

               /  February 19, 2018

              @ Robert

              She’s a perrenial high-profiler & frequent candidate for the Auckland Mayoralty. Her constantly making her non-payment a public issue & trying to get her to do so an expense for the Council means she is an individual whose actions are up for public comment, especially from other Auckland ratepayers who are equally critical of the Council’s contractor & other spending decisions, but pay their rates so everybody else can at least get the benefit of Council services.

            • Gezza

               /  February 19, 2018

              And if you have no interest in Penny Bright’s situation re her rate payments you wouldn’t have mentioned her, not even as a reason to accuse posters whose views or opinions you don’t like of scoring points or bullying.

            • robertguyton

               /  February 19, 2018

              “And if you have no interest in Penny Bright’s situation”
              Nonsense, Gezza. I see witless commenters shrieking, “pay your rates” whenever Penny comments on certain blogs and know they are bullying her, using the “shout the same slogan, over and over” method. I have no interest in her rates protest. My interest is in the way she’s bullied online. Seems to me David’s of that school.

            • Gezza

               /  February 19, 2018

              “Pay your rates, Penny” I used to see posted over & over on The Standard, whenever she posted there. Her name doesn’t come up very often here.

            • Wherever. It’s bullying. Building up a “weapon” like that and using it ad nauseum on an individual, is, I reckon, cowardly.

            • Gezza

               /  February 19, 2018

              Whatever. I don’t know if David’s one of those people who just post “pay your rates, Penny” when her name comes up. I always find it annoying when someone extrapolates something that I’ve said to then effectively accuse me of other likely beliefs or that I don’t hold or activities that I haven’t done. It’s usually an attempt to smear.

            • robertguyton

               /  February 19, 2018

              “I always find it annoying when someone extrapolates something that I’ve said to then effectively accuse me of other likely beliefs or that I don’t hold or activities that I haven’t done.”
              Standard blog-commentators practice, I’m afraid, Gezza. We all, which ever “side” we agitate from, claim as you have claimed. Got any suggestions for curing that bad practice?

            • Gezza

               /  February 19, 2018

              Got any suggestions for curing that bad practice?
              Not doing it’s probably the best way.

        • Blazer

           /  February 19, 2018

          is that a gay neo nazi in shocking pink…rubber lederhosen?

          • robertguyton

             /  February 19, 2018

            He’s at it, not in it. Pink on the inside though. Wasn’t it something to see Jacinda Ardern leading the Hero parade this year! Popular! Tell you what!!

        • David

           /  February 19, 2018

          To be honest I dont know much about Penny Bright aside from being an interesting character who is quite passionate. I was referring to who you said was “your friend” who probably ripped off the tax payers, Miss Turei, if everyone is to be judged by the company they keep.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  February 19, 2018

            Cindy is not the first PM to have been at a Hero, now Pride Parade.

            • robertguyton

               /  February 19, 2018

              “Been at”? Come on, Kitty.I said, “leading”. You being tricksy?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 19, 2018

              She just has to go one better than anyone else; what an attention-seeking showoff the woman is.

            • robertguyton

               /  February 19, 2018

              Umm, yes, she’s Prime Minister. Can’t do much better than that. What’s Judith? Disgraced Natty MP, bosom buddy of Cam Slater, crusher of cars (one? Two?) – nobody.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 20, 2018

              No. She was not disgraced. She was cleared of all wrong-doing. You say that she was a bosom friend of Slater, but as you don’t know her, you can’t know that.

              I would hardly call someone with her credentials ‘nobody’.

              I said PM, not MP. Jenny Shipley was there. She was also a PM.

              What claim to fame do you have ?

  3. Missy

     /  February 19, 2018

    Something I have just heard about, but seems to have been going for a week or so, is the Volcano Cup.

    This is something started by a NZ Volcanologist in the States, it seems to have been started to raise awareness of volcanoes. The public get to vote on Volcanoes to go through to each round, so far from what I can gather is that they are up to round two, and NZ’s entry is Taupo in the Caldera category.

    The Volcano Cup is being run on twitter using the hashtag #VolcanoCup

    http://www.geonet.org.nz/news/4nLmfSkTmoi0OOYKueEuC0

  4. Alan Wilkinson

     /  February 19, 2018

    Mark Mitchell enters race for Nat leader.

    • Corky

       /  February 19, 2018

      Probably hoping to be deputy this time around. An outside chance if he’s baggage free.

      • High Flying Duck

         /  February 19, 2018

        He’s ruled out a run for deputy.

      • robertguyton

         /  February 19, 2018

        Wow! Pinning your hopes on an unknown. Desperate times.

        • Corky

           /  February 19, 2018

          Just heard him korero with Larry. Very good. Concise comments with no vacillation. He has put Winston on notice. A little utu to be returned, no doubt. He’s held command roles in the ADS. Created his own security contracting firm in the war torn middle east.
          Gulp..that means guns and killing people.

          Desperate times? Why yes, this guy would be the perfect candidate to take over months out from the election should ”The Crusher” start tanking.

          It’s the last of the summer wine for your sail bike crowd, Robert. Talking of that, what do you think of that Aussie polly threatening Greenies online with a gun? He was jesting, but let’s face it, Greenies are an annoying waste of space.

        • Corky

           /  February 19, 2018

          This blog will support you through hard time, Robert. Kia Kaha.

    • Blazer

       /  February 19, 2018

      could be a hope…balance with Adams as leader,him as dep…male/female/ nth/sth/

    • PDB

       /  February 19, 2018

      Mitchell could sneak in as the ‘compromise’ candidate that a majority within National can settle upon.

      He obviously took time to do the numbers before he decided to run but has he got the ‘fire in the belly’ for the difficult role of opposition leader?

      • PartisanZ

         /  February 19, 2018

        Oh … Please let it be him … He looks even more conservative than, though not unlike, The Conservative Party’s Leighton Baker …

        National will be a ghost ship …

        • High Flying Duck

           /  February 19, 2018

          He just forecefuly defended the last 9 years of National policy and said the party hadn’t drifted too far to the left. He comes across as a pragmatist.
          I like him as a deputy to Judith.

    • robertguyton

       /  February 19, 2018

      Who?

  5. robertguyton

     /  February 19, 2018

    “He just forecefuly defended the last 9 years of National policy”.
    Patsy then. No surprise.

  6. Kitty Catkin

     /  February 19, 2018

    Has anyone seen the photo of the boy of 15 who held the door shut against the Florida killer and, as a result, was shot five times ? He saved 20 of his classmates that way. Thank goodness he survived. I suppose that the door slowed the bullets, but he wouldn’t have known that it was going to.

    I can’t even imagine being so brave and selfless. He must have been as terrified as everyone else, but he overcame it to save their lives.

  7. robertguyton

     /  February 19, 2018

    “Charter schools were an idea imported by the Act Party from the same US political wingnuts that gave us the ‘three strikes’ sentencing policy. At base, the charter schools movement owed its origins to (a) an ideological hostility to the state provision of education, and (b) to the perceived potential for corporate profits if the state school delivery system could somehow be broken up. The wellbeing of the kids? Never more than an afterthought. There has never been a body of evidence – either here or in the US or anywhere else – to show that charter schools provide better educational results for kids than state schools blessed with similarly generous inputs of funding and resources.”
    Gordon Campbell is on the money. And correct at the same time.