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22 February 2018

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48 Comments

  1. Corky

     /  February 22, 2018

    Labour looking at school boards of trustees, with the possibility of scrapping them. That would give the Marxist teacher unions, and their lackeys, the government, complete control over the school indoctrination process.

    • PartisanZ

       /  February 22, 2018

      LOL! Finally, the “long march through institutions” will prevail … It’s been ‘worth it’ – over three secretive Neo-Marxist generations – losing everything else to neoliberalism – universal free health and dental, full-employment, thriving provincial economies et al ad infinitum – to finally gain ‘control’ of the primary and secondary education sectors …

      Re-education of the masses can begin …

      But where to begin? Shall we ask: Do you really need all these cheap, crappy Chinese-made baubles, trinkets and gadgets? What kind of ‘freedom’ is it to be trapped in a materialistic producer-consumer, money-and-addictions closed-loop economy, where the only thing that outstrips house-price increases is the growth of inequality?

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 22, 2018

        Did you know that the expression ‘conspiculous consumption’ was coined in the 1880s ?

        And the principle was condemned long, long before that.

        • Corky

           /  February 22, 2018

          I like doing CC in the supermarket. I wait for some poor prat with a list of four items and a calculator to make his choice between fatty mince or fat filled sausages.
          I then casually throw two trays of expensive meat cuts into my trolley and watch their mouths water. Of course, some have never tasted fine cuts of meat, so my actions don’t register..

          What can I say…I’m a Rightie living up to Parti’s expectations. After all, the demarcation line between haves, and have nots, must be clearly defined, otherwise Parti’s philosophy falls flat on its face.

          • Blazer

             /  February 22, 2018

            whatever you do make sure you keep eating it…raw..Corky,don’t ever cook it..you wouldn’t ..know..yourself.

            • Corky

               /  February 22, 2018

              Let me guess- you are a sausage man?

            • PartisanZ

               /  February 22, 2018

              @Corky – “After all, the demarcation line between haves, and have nots, must be clearly defined, otherwise Parti’s philosophy falls flat on its face.”

              Explain “demarcation line between haves and have-nots” … and “Parti’s philosophy” please …?

              Otherwise your comment falls flat on its face IMHO.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  February 22, 2018

            Whose mouth would water at the sight of raw meat ? These people probably don’t even notice what other people have in their trolley and wouldn’t be interested,

            Not all mince and sossies are full of fat, especially now. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were regulations about the amount of fat.

            Of course, there are no regulations about people being fatheads.

            • Corky

               /  February 22, 2018

              ”Whose mouth would water at the sight of raw meat ? ”

              Don’t project your meat bias onto other people. Now, let me explain why some peoples mouths would water. It’s because of something you don’t have- imagination. They see that Top Sirloin steak cooking tenderly on the barbie.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 22, 2018

              How do you know ? Raw meat looks and smells like raw meat. A steak on a barbecue smells quite different. Even when I ate steak, I wouldn’t have dribbled at the sight of a piece of raw meat, A raw chicken doesn’t look at all like a roast one. it’s like thinking that someone would see a loaf of bread and salivate over the thought of it being hot buttered toast.

            • Corky

               /  February 23, 2018

              Imagination – you either have it, or you don’t. Sorry, Kitty.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 23, 2018

              I suspect that I am far more creative and imaginative than you, although that would not be too difficult.

          • Gezza

             /  February 22, 2018

            What meat cuts are you going for?

            • Gezza

               /  February 22, 2018

              Nah, bugger sirloin. Rubbish. Fillet or Scotch Fillet for me.

        • “conspiculous” – the very wurst kind of consumption!

          • Blazer

             /  February 22, 2018

            take no notice of the…brat…he has a wiener…complex.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  February 22, 2018

            Buggler, madle anothler typlo. Olops.

            • Corky

               /  February 22, 2018

              Get your desktop fixed.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 22, 2018

              The typo joke was a joke. Funny. ha ha. Play on words.

              Typos are made by people, not their PCs.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 22, 2018

              Get a sense of humour and one of proportion.

              If it was anyone else who claimed to hang around the supermarket until someone comes along to buy sausages, upon which they throw steak into their own trolley and imagine that the other person even notices, let alone cares, I’d assume that they were joking..

            • Corky

               /  February 23, 2018

              ”The typo joke was a joke. Funny. ha ha. Play on words.”

              You got me. I thought you were kosher.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 23, 2018

              Another witless remark from Corky.

    • duperez

       /  February 22, 2018

      “Labour looking at school boards of trustees, with the possibility of scrapping them”? I suppose anything is possible but has Labour said school boards of trustees are being scrapped? At least one commentator used the word ‘could’. It also could be that a review strengthens boards and gives them more independence but that would be a different narrative which isn’t automatically anti-government when what some want is anything, everything anti-government.

      I would love to hear more about ‘the school indoctrination process.’ How does that happen at the moment? What are the pupils being indoctrinated about? Or is that all about what will happen if the boards are no longer?

      Without explanation it might be seen as an easy political cliché to toss around as if it actually meant something.

  2. Blazer

     /  February 22, 2018

    A2 Milk,is now NZ’s most valuable company by market cap,as the 50c shares have soared to over $11.Once dismissed by Fonterra’s $8million dollar man,Theo Spering as a ‘fad’,Fonterra have now entered into a supply and processing/dist agreement with A2.A land of ‘milk and honey’…indeed.

    • Corky

       /  February 22, 2018

      I love it.

      • Blazer

         /  February 22, 2018

        A2 and Comvita…milkand honey to China.

        • Corky

           /  February 22, 2018

          That’s capitalism for you, Blazer. Because of that situation I’m expecting my A2 shares to peak at $18-20. The problem now is – do you cash in, or hold on to the bulls horns?

          • Blazer

             /  February 22, 2018

            I cashed up at $9 ,no regrets.The reality is that even though A2 is a patented product ,someone with smarts ,maybe on 8 mil a year should be able to work out a legal way to copy it.The A1 protein is absent in native bovines in Asia and around the world and in pure Jersey cows.100% Jersey Milk ,sounds like…a winner.The p.e is getting way ahead of itself,not forgetting there is no conclusive evidence about the benefits of A2 Milk.Perception =profits.

            • Corky

               /  February 22, 2018

              For once I agree with you.

              ”Not forgetting there is no conclusive evidence about the benefits of A2 Milk.Perception.”

              I think the homogenisation process will be proven to be the problem.

            • PDB

               /  February 22, 2018

              You greedy capitalist you Blazer!

            • Gerrit

               /  February 22, 2018

              For someone who absolutely despises…speculators, you did pretty well.

              Hopefully you paid tax on the capital gain?

            • Blazer

               /  February 22, 2018

              long time investment,not speculative…have to pay the bills…money in the bank=waste of time..real inflation is higher than int.

            • Gerrit

               /  February 22, 2018

              Still speculation…long term or short…makes no difference.

  3. Zedd

     /  February 22, 2018

    I watched Members day in parliament yesterday (spec. 2 Labour MP bills):

    1) Teachers title: The title ‘Teacher’ should only apply to Qualified Teachers, just as only Qualified Doctors/Lawyers/Engineers etc. only officially use their titles. Natl. voted against it, because it goes against their ‘unqualified teacher’ policy for charter schools; it passed 1st reading 🙂

    2) Licensing of Alcohol off-licenses; To give more feedback to the public, esp. in areas where there is an perceived ‘over supply’ (in poorer suburbs). Natl were fear-mongering about ‘it could lead to prohibition’ in these areas (B-S). It went to a ‘personal vote’ & passed 1st reading. BUT the sponsor had to add a SOP to confirm it only applied to ‘Off-licenses’ in order to get NZF support. 🙂

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  February 22, 2018

      Teacher unions getting licked by Hipkins as forecast. They’ll be licking him back soon.

  4. lurcher1948

     /  February 22, 2018

    Hell NZME newstalkZB was a dismal wasteland today,first i had Mrs Hosking on for an hour 5-6am BORING sounded like her husband so listened to LIVE ,came 6am and listened to Hoskings opening rant thought BORING so watched tv1-3 in bed of course then we got to the morning DPHD or something like that was rubbishing Labours education policy so i thought she sounds like human excrement so i listened to LIVE and that was about druggies,BORING,ON and ON
    We get Bruce Russel an ALT RIGHTWINGER, thinks Trumps backside could light the world up and its nearly time for Larry Williams on at four, nasal BORING the voice of Breitbart and every right wing site you like THEN THE NEXT ALT RIGHTWING HOST IS…..coming soon

    • Gerrit

       /  February 22, 2018

      Sucker for punishment… plenty of you tube videos to suit your bias so you wont be offended…you need a safe space…if not able to overcome micro aggression…

    • Corky

       /  February 22, 2018

      Crikey, Lurchy. The Iranians are coming. And they have pissed off a few Lefties. Something about handshakes.

  5. lurcher1948

     /  February 22, 2018

    Donald trump POTUS #45 wants teachers armed?one dumb…dude

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  February 22, 2018

      Well, the NRA will be pleased. He wouldn’t want to offend his mates who want open season on guns.

      Nothing will change.

      If a gunman with an automatic bursts in, a handgun will be of little use. The teacher will have to reach for their iwn gun, do what has to be done before it can be used and hope that the gunman will wait for them to do this…yeah, right.

    • Gerrit

       /  February 22, 2018

      Again fake news reporting. The context was that a parent asked Trump as a suggestion that school staff could be armed. Trump was asking for ideas to combat school shooting during an emotional 90 minute meeting with parents and survivors.

      He said if parents wanted staff and teachers armed than that would have to be a voluntary proposition. He would agree with that IF the staff and teachers wanted to be armed.

      At no time did he say “we are going to arm the teachers” as reported.

      Lazy reporting by churnalist.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  February 22, 2018

      Allegations don’t automatically mean guilt.

      It’s no reflection on the National Party if people who are not MPs have allegations made.

  6. Kitty Catkin

     /  February 22, 2018

    What a stupid hoohah over the handshaking thing, making it into a gender equality issue. That has nothing to do with it. Some people are too, too pwecious.

    • Gezza

       /  February 22, 2018

      Our country our culture. Julie-Anne put in an awkward position with this one. Wimped out.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 23, 2018

        In our culture it’s not considered to be an intimate thing. What is the big deal ? I wouldn’t give a damn if I didn’t shake hands with someone. If I went to a country where a kiss on the mouth was a normal greeting, I wouldn’t want to do it. To some Muslims, hand contact is something that one just doesn’t do. It’s considered disrespectful and overfamiliar to the woman.