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23 February 2018

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27 Comments

  1. Gezza

     /  February 23, 2018

    It’s 10.25am & there’s nothing provocative yet in here from Corky?
    Is he is unwell? Anybody know?

    • PartisanZ

       /  February 23, 2018

      … I mean this in good spirits Gezza …

      You couldn’t just enjoy the peace and quiet could you!?

      It may be that he’s gotten WELL Gezza, why he’s not here?

      Does anybody really know Corky?
      How sure are we, for instance, that he is really a he?

      I can’t do ‘provocative’ like Corky because I lack the T chromosome … but I found this interesting in the Herald …

      ‘NZ’s economic booms ranked – how this era rates’

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11999023

      • Gezza

         /  February 23, 2018

        That’s actually an interesting article, although it gets a bit muddlesome in places & seems to grudgingly agree current economic policies have had some positive effects globally. It acknowleges that the periods of Golden Times (so to speak) have faded due to external / trading shocks.

        The comments about inequality becoming a worldwide issue are salient points, & the parts about measuring the economy’s performance by a range of other factors, not JUST GDP, reflect what the Labour Government has announced that it has instructed Stats Department to do – & I think the idea’s a good one.

        The strictly GDP measure is not good enuf for measuring the health of our overall society, & our Government should be doing that.

  2. Corky

     /  February 23, 2018

    Mikey panned Maori Television for screening professional wrestling. Not in their charter and a waste of taxpayer money seemed to be the gist of his argument.

    Tautoko.

    • Gezza

       /  February 23, 2018

      It’s probably just a misunderstanding of the situation due to his complete ignorance. A lot of things seem to be.

      • robertguyton

         /  February 23, 2018

        His ignorance is complete??
        I thought it partial, but hey! I concur!

  3. robertguyton

     /  February 23, 2018

    National to adopt the “5-Co-leader” model in light of the extremely high calibre of the candidates, according to Mikey.

    • PartisanZ

       /  February 23, 2018

      But will it be 3 women and 2 men robert, or the other way around?

      • robertguyton

         /  February 23, 2018

        There’s another way? Round? Please explain, PZ!

  4. PartisanZ

     /  February 23, 2018

    Also in the Herald – ‘PM Jacinda Ardern and Shane Jones launch $3 billion fund for regions’

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12000424

    “Jones said the fund of $3 billion over three years was now “open for business” and today’s announcements were just the beginning.

    One of the first projects Jones has revealed for funding was a roundabout near Waipapa in Kerikeri – close to Jones’ home.”

    The Herald’s words … but maybe not a good look for Shane considering his own ‘nephs’ will also benefit most from Ready-4-Work?

    The Waipapa roading-subsidy is in fact the highest value single project of the first round of projects, at $9 million for one roundabout! Perhaps they could make it a Toll-about?

    Aside: I see the Orewa-Puhoi tollway is raking it in and may have paid for itself sooner than the originally estimated 2042! However, there’ll be 7.5 more tollways in place by then to irrationally ‘4 lane motorway’ the remaining 135.5km to Whangarei, calculated at the Puhoi to Warkworth rate of $38.8 million per km! (Can’t find the link)

    I’ve submitted an idea to combine Tree Planting, Ready-4-Work and Regional Development by undertaking ecological rehabilitation and scenic beautification of selected areas of Aotearoa New Zealand’s roadside or road reserve, especially shabbier tracts of popular or burgeoning tourist routes – of which there are an abundance.

    • robertguyton

       /  February 23, 2018

      Well done, you, PartizanZ! You’re a person who walks the talk!!

    • Griff

       /  February 23, 2018

      PartizanZ
      You obviously haven’t done much civil engineering.
      It cost me about $1,100,000/ km to do a domestic driveway.
      Two cars wide in gravel .
      The land had to be stabilized with major retaining so it doesn’t fall down the hill.
      250sed poles in 3.2 m deep 450mm holes with concrete for 900mm batter and 175sed’s 1.8m down 450mm holes with concrete for a 1.5 m cut all at 1200mm centers the retaining timbers are double 200 x 50mm below 700mm.
      For the same reason why the highways costs so much.
      Work has to be engineered so that it does not fail because of the unstable land around here.

      You don’t have to help pay for the toll road’s
      Don’t use them.
      Most just drive on though as the cost of the toll is less than the value of time taken up using the slight detour and extra gas it entitles.

      • PartisanZ

         /  February 23, 2018

        You are correct Griff, I’m not a civil engineer. I’ve tried to find comparative costs for building roads – ie using the existing route compared to creating a new route – two-plus-passing compared to three-plus-safety (Northside Brynderwyns) compared to four-lane-motorway – but I’ve come up empty-handed. I’d be happy to take an educated guess though …

        A combination of two-plus-passing (with or without safety barriers) and three-plus-safety, primarily using existing routes but with some strategic re-routing, would save us fucking millions short-term, and fucking billions long-term …

        It seems $39 million per km Puhoi to Warkworth, using an entirely new route, is relatively conservative compared to Auckland’s East-West Link, the most expensive piece of road ever built in the world at $327 million per km …. Kiwis just love breaking records huh? Even ones mired in corruption set by Vladimir Putin for the Winter Olympics in Sochi …

        http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/09/government-to-build-most-expensive-road-in-world.html

        But where’s the great Rightie tradition of insisting upon ‘productivity & efficiency’ gone when it comes to our roads? We’re talking $710 million Puhoi – Warkworth with a cost-benefit ratio of less than zero already … not counting inevitable cost escalations …. and only 117 km left to get to Whangarei …

        The cost-benefit ratio for Auckland’s East-West Link must be way into the minus figures at a total cost of $1.8 billion …

        Funny … I don’t hear the Taxpayers Union loudly complaining about this grandiose and excessive use of ‘other peoples money’ … I wonder why?

        Such is the grip of the private motor vehicle upon our psyches I guess …?

  5. lurcher1948

     /  February 23, 2018

    Lets try again…PG
    Some elderly gentleman who pushes weapons of death talking at some NRA conference wants armed guard’s at school gates? god forbid…#Not making the USA great again

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  February 23, 2018

      Apparently there was an armed policeman at the school gate but he wasn’t too keen on doing his job and is now an ex-policeman. No indication yet how the shooter got past him with his arsenal.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 23, 2018

        Well, there was an armed security guard. He must have decided that a handgun vs. a machinegun was a mug’s game.

        When I had a broken foot and had to spend a fortnight with it up as much as possible, I became so bored that I watched some daytime television. There had just been a major school massacre, and people were asking how the killer had brought the guns in unnoticed.

        A boy strolled onto the stage, wearing a sweatshirt and baggy trousers and proceeded to produce a real arsenal from under his clothes, including some kind of rifle. I forget now whether it was an automatic or not. But nobody looking at him would have guessed that here was a walking arsenal with ? weapons and ammunition on him. He wasn’t even walking stiffly.

  6. lurcher1948

     /  February 23, 2018

    LURCHER,LURCHER i have asked for the answer 4 times i really upset, as a teacher im upset BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG sorry billy i will tell your dad you died bravely lurcher WHO GIVES A STUFF thanks Donald Trump POTUS #45 for the MR16 weapon of choice of stressed teachers, AND A PLUG FOR THE HOTTIE pushing the NRA…

    • Gezza

       /  February 23, 2018

      LURCH! WAKE UP LURCH!
      It’s ok.
      You’re just having a nightmare.
      No more afternoon naps maybe?

    • Corky

       /  February 23, 2018

      Next time before drinking Kombucha, read the label. If that fungus gets into your brain it crosses your wires and you wind up being wound up.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 23, 2018

        The Witless Wonder is here, oh good.Thank you, Gezza, for tempting fate by saying that he wasn’t around.

        • Corky

           /  February 23, 2018

          Easy. Lurchy is in a sensitive mood.

          • Gezza

             /  February 23, 2018

            He might just have been dropped on his head as a baby. Pretty sure that happened to me.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  February 24, 2018

            Roll up, roll up, see Corky, The World’s Greatest Witless Wonder.

  7. robertguyton

     /  February 23, 2018

    “The ASA ruled that the ad, which ran on bilboards in the build-up to Christmas last year, targeted children with a product which had the potential to cause harm.

    The complaint was brought by Healthy Auckland Together, a coalition of health-related organisations, including the district health boards.

    They argued Santa shouldn’t be used in advertising that promotes unhealthy drinks to children and young people.”
    Too bloody right!

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  February 23, 2018

      Yes, but it’s a legal product, it’s not like alcohol or tobacco that have age restrictions. I am surprised that this was upheld, to be honest. The fact that I don’t like it being drunk by children doesn’t change the fact that it’s able to be bought by all ages.

      I wonder if they would have made a complaint had Santa been advertising fruit juices and fruit drinks that in some cases have more sugar than Coke (but don’t have the caffeine, of course) and cause at least as much harm to teeth among other things,

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 23, 2018

        Yes, Corkins, I know that alcohol and tobacco are legal, but children are not allowed by law to buy these. So don’t bother to say it, as I already have.

    • Gezza

       /  February 23, 2018

      Surprised the bloody churches get away with telling kids to come along to church on Sunday to drink blood & eat flesh. Bad enuf they’re promoting cannibalism to kids, but then when they get there they discover all they get is a bloody wafer that wouldn’t fill a blimmin sparrow! Talk about false advertising! 😡