Steven Joyce leaving New National

Steven Joyce is retiring from Parliament. He has been a list MP since 2008, and has been a significant part of  National’s leadership along with John key and Bill English.

This isn’t a surprise after Joyce missed out on becoming leader after English’s retirement.

This leaves Simon Bridges to establish a ‘new generation’ leadership and a new look National Party before the 2020 election. That’s an opportunity that may or may not work out well, but they can have a go at it.

National:  Bridges pays tribute to Steven Joyce

National Party Leader Simon Bridges has thanked retiring MP Steven Joyce for his service to New Zealand and the National Party.

“Steven has made a huge contribution during his 15 year political career, including in the last decade in Parliament. In that time he has proven an exceptional minister, colleague, advisor and political strategist.

“As a minister, Steven has played a major role in helping create a stronger New Zealand, particularly in the aftermath of the Global Financial Crisis.

“Among his many successes, he oversaw the rollout of the ambitious Ultra-Fast Broadband programme, ensuring New Zealand is one of the most digitally advanced economies in the world.

“As Science and Innovation Minister he worked with the private sector to substantially lift investment in R and D, helping pave the way for some of the world leading science and business initiatives we are seeing and benefiting from today.

“And as Transport Minister he helped make New Zealand’s roads safer and more resilient, through initiatives like the Roads of National Significance.

“He was someone both John Key and Bill English turned to for advice and to get things done. That meant he was given some tough tasks but he consistently rose to those challenges. And I will also continue to use him as a sounding board as the National Party looks to 2020.

“He played a major role in rebuilding the National Party, leading the past five elections and helping turn National into New Zealand’s largest and most popular political party.

“Steven is a huge loss to Parliament and to the National Party and I want to thank him for his immense contribution to New Zealand, and his wife Suzanne and their children for sharing them with us. We wish him all the best.”


One observation with reaction to this news – I am again shocked at how petty and nasty many people are in politics. Joyce has played a significant and successful role in governing New Zealand over the last decade. Some people just don’t seem to be able to help pissing all over people with different political leanings.

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  1. Zedd

     /  March 6, 2018

    The whispers were TRUE.. whose next ?

    • Blazer

       /  March 6, 2018

      Joyce,probably the only M.O.F who never stood as an electoral…candidate.Absolutely useless..he did nothing except,advance crony capitalist…welfare.

  2. Some quite disgusting commentary from the left is always expected. The degree, intensity and breadth of it are out of all proportion.

    • It’s not just from the left. The grumpy grudge blog is dripping with venom.

      • Well Pete, it’s all that man has – hanging on to a construct of the National Party that went away last century.

  3. sorethumb

     /  March 6, 2018

    he’s going back to marketing Posi Power*

    *Trademark
    As seen on Fair go.

  4. robertguyton

     /  March 6, 2018

    “Steven is a huge loss to Parliament and to the National Party…”
    So, according to Bridges, the National Party is further weakened now… this leaves them…gutted!

    • Are you really that stupid?

      Were the Greens gutted when they lost Metiria Turei, David Clendon and Kennedy Graham? Or when they lost Mojo Mathers, Barry Coates and Denise Roche? That was nearly half their last term MPs gone in two months.

  5. robertguyton

     /  March 6, 2018

    “Huge loss”, Pete, huge loss. What is it about that phrase you don’t understand? And hey, what’s with the ad hom ? “Are you really that stupid ?”
    Pete! Your bias is showing! Bridges said, “huge loss”, not minor adjustment, or trifling change – HUGE LOSS!!!
    National can’t afford a HUGE LOSS right now – they’ve already…. lost.

    🙂

    • It’s not an ad hom. I think that you sound like you’re stupid, or acting stupid.

      I’m biased in favour of decency in politics.

      And I’m biased against stupid attempts to stir with no attempt to add any sensible sort of contribution. But it’s your reputation you’re demonstrating.

      • robertguyton

         /  March 6, 2018

        Bridges. Said. Huge. Loss. To. National.
        Is Bridges “stupid”, Pete?

        • robertguyton

           /  March 6, 2018

          “Are you really that stupid?”
          Not ad hominim” ?
          Pete, are you really that stupid?
          Feel like an ad hominim does it?

          • You say a lot of stupid things here Robert. That’s not ad hominim, it’s my honest opinion.

            By association you do a disservice to the Green Party ideals of decency and respect in politics. Sadly it’s not unusual amongst Green supporters.

            • robertguyton

               /  March 6, 2018

              “That’s not ad hominim, it’s my honest opinion.”
              I think you are … confused, Pete, and don’t know what you are talking about (honest opinion).

        • It’s a fairly typical political overstatement. Key was a bigger loss, and National continued without him fine. English was a big loss – and National will continue without him. And without Joyce – it will probably be easier for Bridges without Joyce.

          “So, according to Bridges, the National Party is further weakened now… this leaves them…gutted!”

          That was an inaccurate, stupid comment. You have a habit of making things up.

          • robertguyton

             /  March 6, 2018

            “Key was a bigger loss, and National continued without him fine.”
            Ha ha ha! Pete, you wag!
            National was screwed the day he ran down the rope to shore.

  6. Blazer

     /  March 6, 2018

    still a couple of ..dinosaurs left,Smith,Brownlee.

  7. The letter disputes the column’s assertion that Joyce received only four votes in the party leadership contest won by Bridges, saying the claim was “simply untrue and deliberately understates the level of support for Mr Joyce in caucus”, saying there was “no means by which Mr Hooton could ascertain the level of support for Mr Joyce in any event”.

    There is no way Hooton should have known the result of a secret ballot. Neither should Joyce for that matter. Unless all MPs were told the results, in which case they would likely have quickly become public knowledge.

    • PartisanZ

       /  March 6, 2018

      Your personal information is safe with us …

    • duperez

       /  March 6, 2018

      Secret information wouldn’t get out would it? Let’s have a panel discussion on that.

      “With us tonight to discuss secret information getting out we have, Bill English, Anne Tolley, Paula Bennet and Wayne Eagleson. Our special guest is Amy ( leaks out of the Ministry of Justice area) Adams.”
      ———-
      I heard there were three scrutineers. If they were the only ones who saw the votes and the numbers came out, obviously one of them must have spilt the beans. Of course if the whole caucus was told the numbers it would have become open information.

      The only people who are in a position to say the Joyce numbers are “simply untrue and deliberately understates the level of support for Mr Joyce in caucus” are the scrutineers. Unless they told someone.

      • Knowing human nature as you do, do you seriously imagine that had Joyce only had four votes he would have “gone”for Hooton? Fails the common sense sniff test for me.

  8. PartisanZ

     /  March 6, 2018

    Why do you call it New National? (rhetorical question)

    • robertguyton

       /  March 6, 2018

      “New National” = “Gutted National”, imo.

    • PDB

       /  March 6, 2018

      Annette King: “There is life after politics!”

      Yes….for politicians this means more troughing!

      Newshub: “Dame Annette King has been appointed interim chair of EQC with a mandate to speed up the resolution of outstanding Canterbury earthquake claims.”

      • duperez

         /  March 6, 2018

        She shouldn’t have the job. She shouldn’t have the job because there should be no need for her to have the job. She’s only got the job because things have not been achieved as well as many think they should have been.

  9. robertguyton

     /  March 6, 2018

    I/S doesn’t rate Joyce 🙂
    “F*ck up f*cks off
    Having failed to attract more than a handful of votes in the National Party leadership contest, Steven Joyce is retiring from politics. Good riddance. While he somehow had a reputation as a “Mr fix-it”, like Gerry Brownlee Joyce f*cked almost everything he touched. He f*cked up transport by starving the regions of funding to build pointless superhighways in Auckland for the trucking industry. He f*cked up science and innovation by stealing funding from CRIs, then making them compete for it all over again as laughably underfunded “national science challenges”. He f*cked up tertiary education by limiting access to loans and allowances, creating a teacher shortage which is going to last for years. He f*cked up economic development by signing a crony deal with SkyCity allowing them more pokie machines for an undersized and unnecessary convention centre. And he f*cked up finance by being memorably unable to count during the election campaign. This isn’t a record any politician should be proud of, and I am glad he’s f*cked off, so the only thing he can f*ck up anymore is himself.”

    • Conspiratoor

       /  March 6, 2018

      You forgot the mother of all f*ckups Robert. He singlehandedly created the most bloated, useless, all consuming beaurocracy of them all …MBIE

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  March 6, 2018

        Exactly.

        • Conspiratoor

           /  March 6, 2018

          I’ve had the exceeding great misfortune to encounter them on a number of occasions. Each time I felt I had been parachuted into an early episode of gliding on

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  March 6, 2018

      Had to give you an uptick for that, Robert. Joyce never impressed me favourably.

  10. Conspiratoor

     /  March 6, 2018

    As the former minister of transport joyce was able to work his special brand of magic on aucklands transport debacle. The man is quite simply a genius.

    “He was also involved in creating Auckland Transport as a council-controlled organisation for the ‘super city’ of Auckland. Joyce stated that “Auckland will need a good agency focused on delivering the projects that have been agreed by council” and noting that Council had a number of ways of ensuring that the entity was accountable”

    • PartisanZ

       /  March 6, 2018

      If he only returned to Auckland Super City what existed in each previous City, or in any previous incarnation of Auckland, or of central government for that matter, its hardly a genius idea, is it?

      That’s like saying its very generous of the Crown to settle Treaty of Waitangi claims with hapu iwi …

  11. NOEL

     /  March 7, 2018

    Why is it that politicians when they leave rabbit on about “their” achievements without any acknowledgement to all those underlings who put in the yards to make it happen?

    • PartisanZ

       /  March 7, 2018

      In Hollywood its called “The Star System” NOEL …

      Meantime ‘Lobster Man’ Jordan Peterson explains hierarchy in terms Divinely Ordained Darwinism, aka ‘Crustacean Brain Inevitability’ …

      • Traveller

         /  March 7, 2018

        Jordan Peterson is emotionally and intellectually intelligent and I’ve never seen anyone better him in debate. Id be interested to see a debate – one on one – where he comes off second best.

        • PartisanZ

           /  March 7, 2018

          I dispute that … He’s certainly ‘left-brain’ intellectual and perhaps at best academically well trained (in an almost ‘military’ sense) …

          He ‘wins’ debates by a combination of intellectual over-simplification and pseudo-scientific, quasi-religious, diversionary verbal sorcery, bamboozling, thinking quicker than and intellectually intimidating and bullying his ‘opponents’ …

          All these are signs of an under-developed EQ … not least the combative nature of his interactions … The Right, Far-Right, Alt-Right love it …

          Nowadays he has Youtube Clip, Speaking Circuit and Book ‘marketplaces’ to cultivate too … He’s got his ‘position’ to defend … and his not inconsiderable livelihood depends on it …

          As I discussed with phantom_snowflake the other night, Peterson’s “Lobster Brain” logical syllogism of – Lobster hierarchy is physiologically ‘inevitable’, Humans are descended from Lobsters, therefore Human hierarchy is physiologically inevitable and has nothing to do with socio-cultural evolution is DEEPLY, DEEPLY FLAWED …

          … not least because it sets aside 3.5 million years of socio-cultural evolution since Lobster and Man diverged … which Peterson himself points out …