Q&A today

On NZ Q&A today – Grant Robertson on Finance.

Quite a lot of vague ‘wait and see’ waffle – it was always going to take the first Robertson budget, due in May, to see what he was actually going to do and change.

He indicates a changing Labour stance on immigration compared to what they campaigned on.

Ex National MP (1975-1984) Marilyn Waring:

Waring is well worth listening too – very well informed and a very good speaker.

17 Comments

  1. sorethumb

     /  March 11, 2018

    There’s Josie Pagani talking about Labour and it’s values.

    by Josie Pagani on August 25, 2015
    Josie Pagani
    Hi Barry and Ross – I agree. We need to look at immigration – talk about how much is too much. But also how we compete with other countries for the best migrants and investors who want to come and live here. Because getting those people is really hard.

    And yes – we need to look at the problems – and prepare for them.

    But I also believe that the free movement of working people across borders is a progressive principle. Closing borders and making lists of people of certain ethnicity to blame them for society’s ills has never come to any good – ever.
    https://www.pundit.co.nz/content/shamubeel-is-right-get-x-real-about-immigration

  2. Gezza

     /  March 11, 2018

    Didn’t look riveting from the tweets – Grant’s not usually had much but vague patter.

    But I had a pukeko that needed persuading to stop freeloading & get to work so I’ve missed it. Might watch The Nation seeing Julie Anne & Marama are on I heard.

    Anyone watch Q&A? Is it worth a look?

  3. adamsmith1922

     /  March 11, 2018

    Robertson was his usual waffle and bluster. The Nation was quite good, Peters was dreadful.

    • Gezza

       /  March 11, 2018

      Disagree about Peters. Still watching. Making some excellent points.
      Sophistry about the Russian missile that shot down the airliner over Ukraine though.
      What didn’t you like?

      • Gezza

         /  March 11, 2018

        Marama shat on Metiria, so did Julie-Anne.

        • adamsmith1922

           /  March 11, 2018

          It was classic damming with very, very faint praise. Neither seemed that fond of Shaw either. Of the two Marama seemed the most radical.

          • Gezza

             /  March 11, 2018

            Agree on all 3. Julie-Anne ecology driven, Marama social justice driven. Lisa had read the Greens Charter & said nothing in there about Social Justice.

            I caught the tail-end of Hui, on before The Nation. Mairangi-Forbes interviewing both of them. Look at the body language on that one. There’s tension between the pair over their differing attitude to the nature & level of Maori decision-making the party should follow.

            • phantom snowflake

               /  March 11, 2018

              Interesting. I read it quite differently; I ‘got’ that JAG was quite uncomfortable and became flustered when asked to comment on Maori consultation because she was in the presence of someone (Davidson) to whom she would normally have deferred on this subject.

      • adamsmith1922

         /  March 11, 2018

        Freely admit I detest Peters and always have done. First part of interview tolerable later elements were bad.

      • Peters – am I the only one who thinks he’s gone mental ?

        Fill retard banging on about losing “my entitlements “ when he left the National Party and a balmy story full of pathos of “people relying on him” as he struggled to find funds to fight an “ unnecessary election”. Seriously this had nothing to do with waka jumping except to support the opposite.

        Then there was the sub plot where he roundly abused Owen accusing her of living in comfort and ignorance while he’s on over 400 grand.

        Why aren’t the media talking of his completely losing the plot.

        • Gezza

           /  March 11, 2018

          He only lost towards it towards the end. A bit of a character but he made some good points early before what then became a sophistithicket. If they’d edited out the last 3rd it would’ve been a good effort. I think maybe he’s trying to imitate Boris?

        • Gezza

           /  March 11, 2018

          Peters – am I the only one who thinks he’s gone mental ?
          Seemed fairly standard Peters stuff, but then I sometimes watch Question Time, so I’m used to his weird diversions & accusations.

  4. Blazer

     /  March 11, 2018

    good performance by Robertson.He is the Labour equivalent of…Joyce,articulate,expeditious and has mastered… politikspeak.