Theresa May: “Highly likely” Russia was responsible for poisoning”

Missy adds:

Theresa May has made a statement in the House of Commons today stating that the attempted murder of the former spy was by a military grade nerve agent developed in Russia, and that it is highly likely the Russian state were behind the attack.

She is ready to conclude that this is amounts to the use of unlawful force against the UK. That essentially says she believes it is an act of war against the UK.

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  1. lurcher1948

     /  March 13, 2018

    Not very deadly if they are still alive.

  2. Missy

     /  March 13, 2018

    Pete, I don’t suppose my other comments from world watch here is there? 👍

  3. NOEL

     /  March 13, 2018

    I love the advice on this one a week after the event. Would have thought the previous episode might have raised alarm bells earlier.

  4. Blazer

     /  March 13, 2018

    Chance for May to…act …tough….and shore up popular support.Thatcher had the…Falklands.

  5. Pretty evident.

  6. duperez

     /  March 13, 2018

    I hear the wrath of the United Kingdom is to be visited upon Russia – by not visiting.

    The threat is that British officials won’t go to the Football World Cup in Russia a few months. That’ll show ’em.🙃⚽️

    • Missy

       /  March 13, 2018

      There are also other financial and diplomatic options that they are looking at. Unless you think they should just go to all out war….

      • NOEL

         /  March 13, 2018

        My guess is it will end up with the same outcome as Litvinenko. Those at the crime scene having lots of distance from those who ordered it. If they are identified Russia wont allow deportation and the whole incident becomes a short post on Wiki.

      • Blazer

         /  March 13, 2018

        Yet when Mossad assassinates Iranian scientists. ..no one gives a…continental.

  7. Joe Bloggs

     /  March 13, 2018

    So if May is correct in fingering the Russians, what we’ve seen is a Russian attack on NATO soil using a weapon of mass destruction, affecting as many as 500 people …

    … and U.S. administration that hasn’t batted an eyelid, nor even made a phone call to May… which is a pretty astounding default from traditional U.S. alliances and leadership.

    • Missy

       /  March 13, 2018

      It has not gone unnoticed that the US has made no public announcement – or even a tweet.

      However, NATO have made a statement, and the leaders of NATO are in discussions with the UK over the matter.

      Interesting side note on this, the current NATO Chairman of the Military Committee, Petr Pavel (Czech) will be standing down in the Summer and will be replaced by Sir Stuart Peach, the current UK Chief of Defence Staff. Not sure that has anything to do with the attack, but is an interesting dynamic in watching how NATO deal with this.

      • Joe Bloggs

         /  March 13, 2018

        Yes it’s a fascinating spectacle of ‘compare and contrast’ isn’t it.

        Just last week, the U.S. slapped new sanctions on North Korea over the use of the nerve agent VX in the assassination of Kim Jong-un’s estranged half-brother in Malaysia last year.

        One of the State Department representatives Heather Nauert described that attack as a “public display of contempt for universal norms against chemical weapons use [that] further demonstrates the reckless nature of North Korea and underscores that we cannot afford to tolerate a North Korean WMD program of any kind.”

        https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2018/03/279079.htm

        • High Flying Duck

           /  March 13, 2018

          Hmmm- the collusion angle is already being pushed. The spy was close to Seele apparently.
          So ergo it was basically a Trump hit on the spy.

          • Joe Bloggs

             /  March 13, 2018

            Well Steele himself was in Moscow in the ’90s when Skripal was feeding info to MI6 so that much seems self-evident

            Your “so, ergo” summation is a bit too ‘tinfoil hat’ for my taste… not enough use of Occam’s Razor there HFD.

            A simpler conspiracy theory for you to mobilise (if you really want to trade in conspiracy theories) would be that Putin has a habit of sending messages that traitors are not tolerated by the Kremlin and this is another one of those messages.

        • Joe Bloggs

           /  March 13, 2018

          Moving past HFD’s speculation on who’s behind the attack, the casualty numbers in the UK are not far off from those of recent chlorine gas attacks in Syria that have prompted the White House to consider military action against al-Assad’s regime…

          …which would presumably be justified as an enforcement of the Chemical Weapons Convention. Mattis has even said, in regard to Syria, that nerve agents are of particular concern when it comes to punishing the use of chemical weapons.

          Still zip, zero, and nada in terms of expressions of support from the U.S. to Teresa May though…

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  March 13, 2018

        The White House has called the attack an outrage according to the Telegraph.

    • David

       /  March 13, 2018

      “and U.S. administration that hasn’t batted an eyelid, nor even made a phone call to May”

      I’m curious, what has the EU done in this?

      • Joe Bloggs

         /  March 13, 2018

        Given this was evidently a Russian attack on NATO soil using a weapon of mass destruction it’s probably more appropriate to ask what has NATO done in this.

        NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said Monday that the alliance is cooperating with the U.K. about the nerve agent attack on Skripal.

        “The United Kingdom has concluded that Sergey Skripal and his daughter were poisoned with a military-grade nerve agent of a type developed by Russia. And Prime Minister Theresa May stated today that it is highly likely that Russia was responsible for the act . . . The use of any nerve agent is horrendous and completely unacceptable. The U.K. is a highly valued Ally, and this incident is of great concern to NATO. NATO is in touch with the UK authorities on this issue.”

        https://sputniknews.com/europe/201803131062462515-nato-general-Skripal-poisoning-UK/

        See what Stoltenberg/NATO did there? It’s called support.

        But seeing you asked about the EU, here’s EU VP Timmermans on Twitter:

        Do you see what Timmermans did there? It’s called solidarity.

        So what did trump do? Nothing… instead he tweeted about House Republicans ending their faux investigation into Moscow’s interference and declaring they saw no evidence of something that is demonstrably true to everyone: the Kremlin worked to help Trump in 2016….

        And he tweeted in support of his cowardly crawl-back on gun control…

        And he tweeted a few more lies about his poll ratings…

        And he tweeted about the “failing NY Times” whose stock price is now at a 7 year high…

        You see the pattern, David?

        • David

           /  March 13, 2018

          Dont recall the Americans saying much when all the other Russians were bumped off in London either, its not really their business and Trump is flat out creating 313000 jobs last month and stopping steel being dumped in his backyard.
          England creates their own damn problems with their idiotic welcoming off all sorts.

          • Joe Bloggs

             /  March 13, 2018

            and yet as I pointed out above, just last week, the U.S. slapped sanctions on North Korea over the use of VX in the assassination of Kim Jong-un’s half-brother, describing the attack as a “public display of contempt for universal norms against chemical weapons use [that] further demonstrates the reckless nature of North Korea and underscores that we cannot afford to tolerate a North Korean WMD program of any kind.”

            and then there were the recent chlorine gas attacks in Syria that have prompted the White House to consider military action against al-Assad’s regime…when Mattis said, in regard to Syria, that nerve agents are of particular concern when it comes to punishing the use of chemical weapons.

            trump’s administration “cannot afford to tolerate” the use of VX against Kim’s half-brother in Malaysia and voices concern at the use of chlorine gas in Syria…

            …but when it comes to Russian deployment of a WMD in the UK… a country that many US policy-makers consider its closest ally… all we hear from trump is crickets.

            So I suspect you’re simply willfully blind.

        • High Flying Duck

           /  March 13, 2018

          And who are the NATO members? Is the USA not a member any more?

          • Gezza

             /  March 13, 2018

            I don’t think Trumpy is. Not all the time anyway. Changes from minute to minute.

        • David

           /  March 13, 2018

          “Do you see what Timmermans did there? It’s called solidarity.”

          How long will that solidarity last when the tanks start rolling?

          “You see the pattern, David?”

          How does US forces killing one hundred odd Russia troops in Syria a couple of weeks ago fit into this pattern?

          • Joe Bloggs

             /  March 13, 2018

            Solidarity? All NATO needs to do is admit Ukraine into its membership and as it happens the EU foreign policy chief, Federica Mogherini, is visiting Ukraine this week.

            As to US forces killing so many Russian troops? I’m afraid that you might have been suckered on that story, bud…

            A staffer at the only major hospital in Deir ez-Zor would later say that around a dozen Russian bodies were delivered. An employee at the airport, meanwhile, later witnessed the delivery of the bodies in two Toyota pickup trucks to a waiting Russian transport aircraft that then flew to Qamishli, an airport near the Syrian border in the north.

            In the days that followed, the identities of the Russians killed would be revealed — first of six and ultimately nine. Eight had been verified by the Conflict Intelligence Team, a Russian investigative platform, and another was released by the radio station Echo Moscow. All were employees of the private mercenary company Evro Polis, which is often referred to by the nom du guerre of its head: “Wagner.”

            At the same time, however, a completely different version of events has gained traction — disseminated at first by Russian nationalists like Igor “Strelkov” Girkin, and then by others associated with the Wagner unit….[but] The only verifiable sources for the decimation of hundreds of Russians are the photos and videos circulating on the internet or from Russian sources that are passed on to Western journalists. Some of them show footage from eastern Ukraine that was later doctored.

            http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/american-fury-the-truth-about-the-russian-deaths-in-syria-a-1196074.html

            So it seems that “one hundred odd Russian troops” might just have been a handful of mercenaries in the wrong place at the wrong time …

            Still if it’s as bad as you say then surely there needs to be an investigation, several investigations, many bigly Benghazi-like investigations… is that Trey Gowdy’s howling demand for a probe? Not holding my breath eh…

            • David

               /  March 13, 2018

              You will please to know the US has now promised solidarity, doesn’t this align them with the EU now?

              “Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said the US agreed with the UK that Russia was likely to be behind the attack.

              “We agree that those responsible – both those who committed the crime and those who ordered it – must face appropriately serious consequences,” he added.

              “We stand in solidarity with our allies in the United Kingdom and will continue to coordinate closely our responses.”

  8. David

     /  March 13, 2018

    And Winston wants to do a trade deal with Russia and Ardern backed him yesterday.

    • Gezza

       /  March 13, 2018

      It’s just business. Jacinda said (at her rather long & detailed presser yesterday I think) that the Americans sell us more than they buy from us. Might get them interested in a bit more fair trade?

    • Joe Bloggs

       /  March 13, 2018

      This might put a dent in that proposed trade deal with Russia

      The British Government will call on New Zealand to join it in taking reprisals against Russia if Russia does not provide a credible response for the nerve-agent attack on Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia.

      In a very rare move, New Zealand media were called to the British High Commission in Wellington for a briefing on the case this afternoon, saying diplomats worldwide were doing the same, as well as talking to governments.

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12012013

      • Gezza

         /  March 13, 2018

        Good. Wonder what our trade balance is. More lamb sales might be on the cards.