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  1. lurcher1948

     /  March 15, 2018

    Heard a fellow poster called Chuck Bird on newstalkZB and he came across as if reading an average kiwiblog post which he mentioned. Chuck when you start off calling the PM”commie chic” then proceed to rant and confuse the host you come across as been one can short in a 6 pack

    • Gezza

       /  March 15, 2018

      plus missing the plastic thinggie that hold the cans together.

    • Ray

       /  March 15, 2018

      And after reading his various works you were surprised!

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  March 15, 2018

        Chic or chick ?

        Chuck is no fool, but he can be rather hardline.

        I know him and have been to his house. He’s been to mine, too. I haven’t seen him for a few years, though.

  2. David

     /  March 15, 2018

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/102268774/winston-peters-russian-trade-deal-hopes-could-cost-new-zealand-elsewhere

    This should get much more coverage than it has been, Peters is in danger of stuffing up some important and profitable relationships with his Russia thing, Ardern needs to toughen up and pull his head in despite the inevitable toy/cot throwing tanty he will have. Russia, which is a small and poor economy, is becoming ever more isolated especially with the England poisoning, the appointment of Pompeo etc.
    The world has changed since the election deal and some questions need to be asked of Peters as to why ?

  3. David

     /  March 15, 2018

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12012902

    Good old Barry Soper and his continuing jihad to keep watch over Ardern in a sweet and protective way now gives us this pearl of wisdom, if you get molested have a quick chat with your Mum and just get over it. Unbelievable, one could imagine the huge backlash if Hosking had said this.

    • lurcher1948

       /  March 15, 2018

      But who listens to Hosking??

      • Gezza

         /  March 15, 2018

        Sad bastards, mostly.

      • High Flying Duck

         /  March 15, 2018

        A large number more people than listen to any other breakfast radio show?
        He is polarising in his views, and sometimes ill-informed, but he is an excellent interviewer and the overall coverage of issues is very good.

        • Blazer

           /  March 15, 2018

          so you would be a fairly typical listener then!Get…some…help.

        • duperez

           /  March 15, 2018

          More people listen to Hosking than any other breakfast radio show?

          Media companies publish glowing reports focussing on what makes them look good.

          NZME said last year, “ZB’s Mike Hosking remained the most listened to commercial breakfast radio host.” Note ‘commercial.’ At that stage he had about 340,00 listeners.

          Scoop said: “Breakfast results (Mon-Fri 6am-9am) show Network RNZ National reaches 430,300 or 10.4% different people aged 10+ across New Zealand.”

          According gfk surveys the breakfast listeners are:
          RNZ = 445,700
          Newstalkzb = 362,900

          http://www.gfk.com/en-nz/insights/report/radio-new-zealand-reports/
          http://www.gfk.com/en-nz/insights/report/radio-audience-measurement/

          • High Flying Duck

             /  March 15, 2018

            You are correct – no ads radio gets more. Of the commercial stations, Hosking has daylight to the next station behind him.
            He’s a good opinion broadcaster. Doesn’t mean you or I have to agree with him.

      • Corky

         /  March 15, 2018

        I listen to him because he doesn’t waffle. Subject..argument..conclusion/ prediction, Simple stuff.

        Most of the time he’s spot on. If he wasn’t I wouldn’t waste my time listening.The only alternative for me is National Socialist Radio. Unfortunately I’m not a fluent Maori speaker. So that option is out.

    • lurcher1948

       /  March 15, 2018

      Good article by Barry, its a pity national party supporting posters eyes glaze over and their brains shut down when they see the words Labour Party.Not being in power cuts…deep

      • High Flying Duck

         /  March 15, 2018

        Another besotted fluff piece by the old lecher you mean.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  March 15, 2018

          The first thing that everyone seems to say about Mike Hosking is that they can’t stand him, and that they would turn the television off whenever he appeared. Paul Henry has the same effect.

          I forget which of them had a feature on somewhere like Kawerau and made a comment about a man seen sitting having a beer on his front verandah to the effect that we (taxpayers) were paying this person to sit around all day drinking . I don’t know if the man saw the video and heard the comment, but someone who knew him did, and angrily informed One that the supposed dole bludger was relaxing with a cold beer after a long hard day at the timber mill.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  March 15, 2018

            Three people LIKE these obnoxious, opinionated, egomaniacal boorish smart-arses ? BLIMEY !

            I thought that saying that a hard-working man who’d just come home from a day’s hard yakka was sitting around all day drinking beer on the dole was totally unacceptable. The PDTs don’t seem to think so. How strange that is.

  4. lurcher1948

     /  March 15, 2018

    Once again one of David Farrars Kiwiblog posters,leads an exhortation to violence.I wonder if anyone in law enforcement keeps an eye on these rightwingers??

    flipper
    Why is it that socialist crapheads feel a need to stage such events as a summer indoctrination camp ???
    But that is an Ardern legacy, I suppose.
    And in other societies, it results in a Norwegian-like massacre.
    The only massacre needed here is the 9th floor, starting with Ardern and the dyke.

    Thumb up 15 Thumb down 5 LOG IN TO REPLY REPORTMARCH 15, 2018 8:37AM

    • Corky

       /  March 15, 2018

      Who’s the dyke?

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  March 15, 2018

      Oh, Lurcher, don’t say that even as a joke.Don’t tempt fate,

      i can think of quite a few people who have been socialist or even communist and changed their views. Not everyone is so closed-minded that they are incapable of change or so pig-headed that they can’t accept that they may have been wrong.

  5. sorethumb

     /  March 15, 2018

    Jill Day deputy mayor of Wellington:
    She dismissed recent criticism of the language and said it was *everyone’s responsibility to keep the language going.*

    “Their [critics’] comments don’t fly in the community anymore and people are much more aware of their responsibility to revitalise te reo.”
    -[evidence?]
    More people in Wellington were speaking and interested in te reo Māori but to make it an everyday spoken language, was a long path, she said. [More people are turning to Colgate Toothpaste- its the hexachlorophene green stripe.
    RNZ used “revitalize the language- a far cry from reflect culture]

    • sorethumb

       /  March 15, 2018

      Smiles
      i.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/101176713/wellington-city-council-consulting-with-community-to-create-te-r

  6. High Flying Duck

     /  March 15, 2018

    From an email I received today…

    Jordan Peterson, a former professor at Harvard and now a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, has become a sort of cult-celebrity for his calm, articulate dismantling of political correctness and reactionary politics on both sides. He is particularly popular with young men, in part because of his message of self-sufficiency and self-worth, which can be summarized as “Take responsibility for your own life.”

    His book 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos is an interesting read and has spurred a meme of interesting people giving their own 12 rules for life

    But what would the Stoics say about this? What would their 12 rules be?
    No one can say for sure, but here is a stab at it.

    1. Live as if you died, but were resuscitated and every minute was a gift.
    2. Every person you meet is an opportunity for kindness.
    3. Don’t read for show, read to be better.
    4. Be forgiving of others, but don’t demand forgiveness for yourself.
    5. Try to hold as few opinions as possible.
    6. Pick a “Cato” and judge each difficult decision with: “What Would ____ Do?”
    7. Practice good spending habits (keep in touch with poverty).
    8. Always consider the worst case scenario.
    9. Keep a list of what you’ve learned from other people (and remember to thank them often).
    10. Get up early every day—as early as you can.
    11. Take cold showers.
    12. If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it.

    • Corky

       /  March 15, 2018

      I covered No 11 on this thread a while ago. However, I don’t know whether the good professor is being facetious.

      No12 is something Lefties wouldn’t be able to get their heads around.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  March 15, 2018

      #11 should read “Walk your dog twice a day.” Otherwise I’m all good with that list.

      • Corky

         /  March 15, 2018

        Rains heavy with a chill factor up your way, Alan?

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  March 15, 2018

          No chill factor but dogs will walk rain or shine and love you for it.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  March 15, 2018

            Does 12 mean that one can never tell a joke, write a novel or use a metaphor ? Or say ‘there was a queue five miles long at the supermarket’ and so on ? Or say ‘Nothing !’ when someone asks what’s in that parcel ? Or …..

            How can anyone know what anyone else would do in any given situation ?

            Someone without opinions would be without much intelligence or judgement, and be incredibly dull to talk to.

            No reading for enjoyment, then ?

            What a sanctimonious list.

      • Conspiratoor

         /  March 15, 2018

        and they’ll still love you after 3 hours locked in the car boot Al …unlike the missus who is known to deny a man’s conjugal rights for 3 months following a similar experience

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  March 15, 2018

          I bow to your obviously greater experience, C.

    • Conspiratoor

       /  March 15, 2018

      Cato the elder was a brilliant philosopher and was equally perceptive on both women and cabbage…

      “Woman is a violent and uncontrolled animal… If you allow them to achieve complete equality with men, do you think they will be easier to live with? Not at all. Once they have achieved equality, they will be your masters.

      It is the cabbage which surpasses all other vegetables for medical value. It may be eaten either cooked or raw; if you eat it raw, dip it into vinegar. It promotes digestion and is an excellent laxative”

      • Corky

         /  March 15, 2018

        I like this guy. I know people have cured themselves of tumours using cabbage poultices.
        Gout too.

      • Gezza

         /  March 15, 2018

        Cabbage cured me of the desire to learn Latin. What an asshole he was. 😡

      • High Flying Duck

         /  March 15, 2018

        There are far too few philosophers expounding on the virulence of women and the contrasting joy that is cabbage.

  7. Blazer

     /  March 15, 2018

    ‘what would Cato do?…jump out of the ceiling and karate chop…your…neck.

    • Blazer

       /  March 15, 2018

      just in…case…

      • High Flying Duck

         /  March 15, 2018

        One of the greats.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  March 15, 2018

          Dead ants….dead ants…dead ants. dead ants, dead ants,dead ants, dead annnnnntsss,,,,dead ants !

          I wonder if undergraduates still play Dead Ants in the road during pub crawls.

    • High Flying Duck

       /  March 15, 2018

      Good article. I’ve always thought the same.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  March 15, 2018

        It’s obvious from experience but doesn’t suit the alarmists’ political agendas. As I’ve often said, just look back 100 years to see the rate of advance of knowledge and technology.

  8. Gezza

     /  March 15, 2018

    Craig’s Black Doris Plum Jam – Hastings. Take a helluva lot to beat, that would.

  9. Corky

     /  March 15, 2018

    Damn, I just caught up with the news – James Randi has come out of the closet. Those sceptics have more tricks than a one armed hawker of snake medicine.

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/03/22/james-randi-comes-out-of-the-closet/#.WqnKXvl9mUk

  10. lurcher1948

     /  March 15, 2018

    Why i love my sport, Crufts agility final, very hard

  11. Corky

     /  March 15, 2018

    Choice TV: 8.30 tonight.

    Documentary:

    A Life Of Its Own: Medical Marijuana

    .https://vimeo.com/175179055

    • Gezza

       /  March 15, 2018

      Very good documentary I thought. Select Committee & all MPs should watch that.

  12. Gezza

     /  March 15, 2018

    Gun-trained US teacher already fires gun & injures student in classroom

    “A teacher who is also a reserve police officer trained in firearm use “accidentally” discharged a gun yesterday at Seaside High School in Monterey County, California, during a class devoted to public safety. A male student was reported to have sustained non-life-threatening injuries.”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12013434