‘I’d rip their throats out’ over the top

When I saw this via Stuff – ‘I’d rip their throats out’: Nats’ Judith Collins slams Labour’s handling of sex claims – I thought it sounded over the top and not good for building support for the new look National Party line up.

Judith Collins has hit out at the Labour Party for not telling the victims’ parents of the alleged assaults at the Young Labour summer camp.

On Friday, National Party MP Judith Collins told the AM Show if she were a parent she would expect to be told what had happened.

“I’d actually rip their throats out for doing that if it was my kid, I really would,” she said in reference to Labour not telling the parents.

Collins said the “culture of secrecy” bred abusive and coercive behaviour.

To me that sounds like an inappropriate expression, and it isn’t great regardless of it touching on something like a feeling many parents might have if they found out a political party had kept the abuse of their teenager secret from them.

But hang on a minute. here’s a Newshub report – ‘I’d rip their throats out’ – Judith Collins tears into Labour’s handling of Waihi camp incident

Judith Collins says parents of the kids allegedly sexually assaulted at a Labour Party youth event should have been told right away.

The Housing Minister admitted if it was one of his own children, he’d liked to have been told right away.

“It’s not a good situation. We’re not happy about it. I think we let these young people down,” Mr Twyford told host Duncan Garner.

Ms Collins, appearing alongside Mr Twyford, said there should never have been any question about what parents would have wanted.

“I’d actually rip their throats out for doing that, if it was my kid, I really would. Obviously not physically, but you might as well. That’s what I’d want to do.

“I cannot believe they’d sit there saying, ‘Let’s not widen the circle.’ Why not? This is the culture of secrecy that actually breeds this sort of behaviour.”

“Obviously not physically” puts quite a different complexion on Collins’ turn of phrase. I still don’t think ‘rip their throats out’ sounds very good, but it’s not dissimilar to ‘give them a kick up the bum’, albeit more impactful being less comon (I haven’t heard it before). She could have said something without violence connotations, like “I’d be bloody pissed off’, and ik think many parents would identify with that.

The partial reporting by Stuff was quite poor. It was written by Laura Walters.

32 Comments

  1. chrism56

     /  March 17, 2018

    PG, why are you at all surprised at the press misquoting JC? She is the demonic totem for the left, so getting facts right is irrelevant – just needs a bit of poetic license to turn what was actually said to what suits the storyline better. People like Blazer do it all the time.

    • Fight4NZ

       /  March 17, 2018

      Her well-documented history of using underhanded legal, commercial and political methods of serving her own interests are what make her an anathema to the majority.
      She is simply National’s media clown. Only the tribal right have any time for her now as her run for leader demonstrated.

      • Gezza

         /  March 17, 2018

        And let’s not even mention the eyebrows because that would be really petty & shallow.

        • lurcher1948

           /  March 17, 2018

          DONT MENTION HER EYEBROWS, Gezza and lets not mention that pasty white foundation,

    • Fight4NZ

       /  March 17, 2018

      But to return to the point, now i have managed to stop laughing about her eyebrows.
      The “misquote” may ruffle a few feathers in the higher end of town as per PGs take. However that is not the audience Stuff is talking to. The editorialising is to play up the attack dog goes after Labour message lapped up by the Labour = tax + dolebludgers masses.
      Right leaning msm doing its masters bidding.

  2. Gezza

     /  March 17, 2018

    What do you expect? Judith said she’d stab a pregnant PM from the front. She’s got a thing about portraying herself as violent.

    • Gezza

       /  March 17, 2018

      Stop downticking me. I’m bloody sensitive you know ! Bastards.

  3. chrism56

     /  March 17, 2018

    Gezza – I think are another one who misquote by leaving out words, changing context or editorialising. – Here is what was actually said
    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/02/i-stab-people-in-the-front-judith-collins.html

    • I think the misquoting – or omitting key parts of what is said – is bad, but I don’t think the violent phrases Collins uses will attract a wide range of voters.

      • chrism56

         /  March 17, 2018

        I don’t disagree with your comments PG.Politicians often make statements that come back to haunt them and should be judged accordingly. They are no different to the rest of us. And the fact that JC seems to have alienated a lot of her caucus colleagues says more than reaction to her tweets do.
        However, journalists are supposed to report the facts – statement of record stuff. That is an entirely different situation. If they want to editorialise or give opinions, don’t call it news. (I note if you do a google search on the quote, quite a few news reports leave the word “actually” out. What was that old movie reporter line about “just the facts, son?” It is no longer taught, definitely not by people like Martyn Bradbury..

        • Patzcuaro

           /  March 17, 2018

          What does JC stand for Jesus Christ, does she walk on water now, or is it Just Chrusher.

        • Gezza

           /  March 17, 2018

          Martyn is a bloody saint!
          Just ask him.

        • Fight4NZ

           /  March 17, 2018

          Yes. Thats why I get my facts from MSM greats like Hosking, Leyton, hooten, farrah, etc., etc, etc. Bring back Paul Henry, rid us of the editorialisimg leftist scourge. So sick of the way Bradbury gats to dominate the airways.

          • chrism56

             /  March 17, 2018

            As I would have expected from you F4NZ, you are commenting on things I didn’t say. I don’t listen to Newstalk or read the Herald so I see none of those opinion writers. The papers also pay them to be controversial so it gets left wingers’ blood pressure up. And they way you go on about them, you must listen to/read them.
            Mr Bradbury had a job for a while teaching journalism (I don’t know if he still does) at one of the polytechs. That is why I singled him out, specifically using the word “taught”.

        • PartisanZ

           /  March 17, 2018

          @Chrism56 – “However, journalists are supposed to report the facts – statement of record stuff. That is an entirely different situation.”

          While we’re about bringing back the media’s ‘integrity’, lost so long ago, let’s bring back the great ‘socialist’ days of Savage, Fraser, Nash, Kirk, Rowling & Muldoon that went along with it …

          “If they want to editorialise or give opinions, don’t call it news” …

          There’s no need. We’ve been calling it “fake news” for quite some time … Since we discovered the media is a corporate-capitalist ‘industry’ selling a ‘product’ by using whatever powers of persuasion and perception they can … like every other industry …

          Collins dropped them the perfect ‘bait’ …

      • lurcher1948

         /  March 17, 2018

        Better than saying i would kick him in the nuts and scratch his eyes out

    • Gezza

       /  March 17, 2018

      Everbody knows likes to portray herself as tuff & ruthless & that obviously extends to using violent expressions – emojis, metaphorical or not. If she didn’t enjoy using them for the impact it makes PG wouldn’t have even had a topic for his post & we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. Get a sense of humour before sundown. If I have to speak to you again about this I’ll set the rotweiler on you or get her to crush yaw car.

  4. lurcher1948

     /  March 17, 2018

    There’s a saying”she’s full of piss and wind” sums up judith collins to a tee

  5. duperez

     /  March 17, 2018

    Collins is portraying herself as she wants to be seen.
    “Obviously not physically” ? After saying what she said? It’s what her mob want to hear, they heard it. They heard it via Laura Walters. Collins will be pleased.

    Someone walks into a crowded room. It’s pretty quiet and someone loudly says of a new entrant as they come in the door, “Here’s a child molester.” And after letting the words register, “Nah, just kidding.”

  6. Patzcuaro

     /  March 17, 2018
    • Blazer

       /  March 17, 2018

      de bark the kauri…scribble on it,export it to..China as ‘art’=make lots of …moolah.The Art of the Deal…by..JC.

    • A funny cartoon but the sentiment is rather too early in her responsibility unless I’ve missed something.

      • Gezza

         /  March 17, 2018

        Yeah you’ve missed something. Any barking she does on housing can be quietened with the classic kiwi farmer’s: Shaddup, ya bloody mongrel! Yaw bloody lot did nothing!
        Although it’s going to sound wimpy coming from Twyford.

      • Patzcuaro

         /  March 17, 2018

        She carries the baggage of under delivering on crushing boy racer cars.

        • PDB

           /  March 17, 2018

          Or was it the threat of crushing cars led to better behaviour hence cars weren’t ‘crushed’?

          NZ Herald: “”When I passed this legislation in 2009, I said that confiscating and destroying the vehicles of the worst, repeat offenders would be the ultimate deterrent.
          “Critics of this law have completely missed the point. The number of deaths, injuries and crashes due to illegal street-racing have plummeted.”.

          • PartisanZ

             /  March 17, 2018

            So there was, after all, just one worst, serial, repeat offender …

            And the “plummeted” reduction in “the number of deaths, injuries and crashes due to illegal street racing” has been more than compensated for by other types of MV accident … perhaps notably Police pursuits … resulting in a higher road toll …

  7. Patzcuaro

     /  March 17, 2018

    Just Crusher, Just Crusher,
    Who are you? What have you Crushed
    Just Crusher, shooting star,
    Do you think you’re what they say you are?

    Tell me what you think about your friends at the top.
    Who’d you think besides yourself’s the pick of the crop?
    Simon, is he where it’s at? Or is a he a bridge to no where?
    Could Amy move a mountain, or is that just PR?
    Did you rejoice at the size of the $11 billion fiscal hole
    Or was that a mistake.
    Mark my word, Mitchell came from no where, like a shooting star.

    Just Crusher how many racer cars have you crushed

  8. will

     /  March 18, 2018

    So Collins thinks that victims have no rights. Why am I not surprised ? What will she say next? That 16 year old victims of sexual assaults have to undergo some sort of evidential examination in front of both parents?