Open Forum – Sunday

18 March 2018

Forum

This post is open to anyone to comment on any topic that isn’t spam, illegal or offensive. All Your NZ posts are open but this one is for you to raise topics that interest you. 

If providing opinions on or summaries of other information also provide a link to that information. Bloggers are welcome to summarise and link to their posts.

Comments worth more exposure may be repeated as posts.Comments from other forums can be repeated here, cut and paste is fine.

Your NZ is a mostly political and social issues blog but not limited to that, and views from anywhere on the political spectrum are welcome. Some ground rules:

  • If possible support arguments, news, points or opinions with links to sources and facts.
  • Please don’t post anything illegal, potentially defamatory or abusive.

FIRST TIME COMMENTERS: Due to abuse by a few first comments under any ID will park in moderation until released (as soon as possible but it can sometimes take a while).

Sometimes comments will go into moderation or spam automatically due to mistyped ID, too many links (>4), or trigger text or other at risk criteria.

Free speech is an important principle here but some people who might pose a risk to the site will have to keep going through moderation due to abuses by a small number of malicious people.

Next Post

26 Comments

  1. Corky

     /  March 18, 2018

    I few months back i commented on a clip showing African Muslim refugees( mostly men)
    disembarking from their boat in Italy. I said at the time how meek and quiet they looked.
    But suggested that’d change after they found their bearings and settled into new surroundings.

    Sure enough, things have changed… for the worst. The Whaler posted this clip yesterday in amongst the big hits he’s putting on Labour.

    Good to see Tommy Robinson show these pricks what the best of Bwitish is all about.

    • Gezza

       /  March 18, 2018

      I’ll look at this later & see if it’s any good.

      • Corky

         /  March 18, 2018

        No need. Apart from the punch and paper headlines you know the story.

        • Gezza

           /  March 18, 2018

          yer … i dunno. Wunna vem ignorant-sounding pommy fug-tyoes wot karn pwinounce veer t’s n replace veer th’s wiv f’s. Sorl very wowl, bu’ seddided, innit? Wot aven vey shown us eh?

          • Corky

             /  March 18, 2018

            Concentrate on the clip Never mind the pom.

            • Gezza

               /  March 18, 2018

              Well, course the Italians have had enuf of uncontrolled migrants roaming the streets n sleeping ruff. Everyone with any brains would have. But he says that clip of the woman being assaulted was two years ago. So he goes veer lookin to stir fings n e films em u til wunna vem says go away wiv yer camera me n he then provokes a fight. This is wot apns wen soccer ‘ooligans karn ‘ooliganate elsewear.

            • Gezza

               /  March 18, 2018

              *go away wiv yer camera mate
              Put it in persective Corky. If some yobbo come down yaw street wiv a camera an films you all the time you’s be fronting up telling them to get the camera outa yaw moosh, wouldn ya?

            • Corky

               /  March 18, 2018

              Yeah, no mate. Sorry.

            • Gezza

               /  March 18, 2018

              Ok – we’ll see. Where’s ya compound?

          • Gezza

             /  March 18, 2018

            * fug-types.
            You know – soccer ooligans.

    • David

       /  March 18, 2018

      Have family who holidayed there last year and the change since they last went 10 years prior has not been positive.
      The recent election had the left and the right wanting to deport failed asylum seekers in their 100s of thousands.

  2. Corky

     /  March 18, 2018

    Wow! corporal punish still allowed in some American schools. How much better would our schools be with a similar regime? In the case below pupils were given a choice.

    Funny how the media didn’t cover kids who didn’t agree with the student gun protests across the US. I guess being Conservative is a dirty word at present. Well, maybe . Some reports suggest more kids are becoming Conservative.

    https://uproxx.com/news/arkansas-students-corporal-punishment-national-walkout/

    • Gezza

       /  March 18, 2018

      Some reports suggest more kids are becoming Conservative.
      Interesting. Got some links to some reports?

      • Corky

         /  March 18, 2018

        No..they were three separate radio interviews with US commentators on RadioLive and ZB.

        Did a quick Google sqwiss and came up with this.

        http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/generation-zs-rightward-drift/

        • Gezza

           /  March 18, 2018

          Well … a conservative ragsite looking for selected studies that bolster its own conservative hope that conservatism is increasing in youngsters isn’t surprising, but I wouldn’t entirely rule it out. There could be a reaction against the increasing stridency of liberal bullying & its own versions of intolerance.

          Interesting that they cite an increase in religiosity among the young at the same time as there’s an increase in atheism.

          Thing is, it’s talking about America though Corky. I don’t know whether conclusions drawn about what’s happening in the weird society they’ve got can be assumed to reflect NZ’s situation.

          Speaking of religion sometimes when channel sufing I’ve paused to watch the odd high end full on Jesus Rock concert on Shine. I was watching one band recently & I thought hey that looks like Brooke Fraser, so I checked & it was. As well as her solo career she’s a member of a God band over there called Hillsong Worship.

          • High Flying Duck

             /  March 18, 2018

            She is a religious performer now under her married name Brooker Ligertwood.

            Doing OK too – she won a Grammy for a song called What a Beautiful Name.

            http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11983955

            • High Flying Duck

               /  March 18, 2018

              Brooke, not Brooker…

            • Corky

               /  March 18, 2018

              I recently found out Dave Dobbyn is religious. However, he keeps his faith private, as do others know. They are the type of religious people I like.

            • Corky

               /  March 18, 2018

              * I*

            • High Flying Duck

               /  March 18, 2018

              You’re right Corks – DD is a bible basher from way back. Gave up the booze and renounced his Dude’s days to follow the righteous path.
              I’ve always liked his music though – except for the execrable Welcome Home song he dedicated to Ahmed Zaoui, which is so saccharine as to be diabetes inducing.

            • Corky

               /  March 18, 2018

              Ahmed Zaoui,!!!!!! Say no more. He ain’t no slice of heaven.

            • lurcher1948

               /  March 18, 2018

              Who believes in a sky fairy, only primitives who hide under beds when there’s…thunder

            • Corky

               /  March 18, 2018

              And atheists when they are on their deathbed.

            • phantom snowflake

               /  March 18, 2018

              Corky: Ahmed Zaoui makes a mean kebab!

        • Corky

           /  March 18, 2018

          He rides a mean bike..to anti Jewish rallies.

          • Gezza

             /  March 19, 2018

            I don’t think he’s anti-Jewish. Very people are, in my experience. In the US some of them are ultra nationalist white folks who say the white race is superior, & some of them wear sheets n pointy hoods. Mostly they’re white trash types and dumb as a sack of hammers – those I’ve seen interviewed are, anyway.

            The Friends of Israel’s Hastings Branch supported Zaoui’s appeal to be allowed to stay here. Have you maybe mis-read something somewhere?