An end to oil and gas exploration?

Yesterday Jacinda Ardern sent a typically strong but vague signal on government intent on allowing or ending oil and gas exploration in New Zealand – see Government actively considering whether to decide on oil exploration.

Mixed signals continue.

NZH: Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says the world has moved on in terms of fossil fuels

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has given the strongest signal yet that the days of oil and gas exploration in New Zealand are numbered.

Sort of.

In a surprise appearance that stunned observers, Ardern appeared on Parliament’s forecourt on Monday to accept a 45,000-strong Greenpeace petition calling for an end to oil and gas exploration.

Ardern said the world had moved on from fossil fuels.

“I ask now for a bit more time. We’re working hard on this issue and we know it’s something that we can’t afford to spend much time on but we are actively considering it now,” she said.

Opposition leader and former Energy Minister Simon Bridges called Ardern’s surprise appearance a “quickly invented publicity stunt by the Prime Minister to distract from her week from hell”.

It did seem unusual for a Prime Minister to personally receive a petition being delivered to Parliament.

Ardern is on RNZ now. She says it is a complex issue, including the potential impact on regions like Taranaki where most oil and gas recovery is currently centred. And she seems to be mainly considering the exploration ‘block offers’ rather than stopping all current production.

Audrey Young: Banning oil and gas exploration a question of when, not if

The only question, the Prime Minister has now made clear, is not “if” but “when” and “how” the transition will work.

We don’t know yet whether it will be a transition of five, 10 or 20 years.

So will the ‘active consideration’ turn in to decisive action or kicking the petrol can down the road?

But one thing we do know is that she won’t be able to keep both Greenpeace and New Zealand First happy on this one.

Ardern is not relying on Greenpeace as a coalition partner – and no one voted for Greenpeace in last year’s election.

The devil will be in the detail. And the details of what the Government calls a “just transition” to a non-fossil-fuel future looks set to be announced next month at the same time as the future or fate of the 2018 Block Offer is made clear.

Which was under way regardless of the Greenpeace petition.

In all likelihood, even a National-led Government would have ended the Block Offer process because interest in it by oil companies has been waning in recent years.

And yes, looks like it may fizzle out anyway.

Greenpeace and the Greens want the accelerator planted (on the EV) to get decisions made and the framework in place to achieve that goal.

New Zealand First’s loyalty lies more with the regions which it thinks should be getting greater advantage from the exploration in its area and as the driver of the billion trees, is more into mitigation.

We will have to wait and see what Ardern and her government decides to do.

40 Comments

  1. alloytoo

     /  March 20, 2018

    Typically Ardern took an awful long time to say absolutely nothing. This is about the only thing she’s good at.

    I do wonder however, if we got a petition with 50000 signatures calling for a ban of Greenpeace in New Zealand will she consider that too? (in as many words as she can muster)

    • Never seen anyone (who’s not a PR maven from a major corporate) talk so much, with so much false conviction, yet say so little.

    • 2Tru

       /  March 20, 2018

      So the world’s moved on from fossil fuels. Could have fooled me! Oh I must remember to fill up my gas-guzzling 4WD. These greenies might want us to think so but it will be a few years yet. And in the meantime we give up thousands of jobs in Taranaki and royalties for the government. For what? Just virtue signalling and shooting ourselves in the economic foot – it’s alright we can just borrow more from overseas bankers. Is this a significant petition with only around 1% of the population signing it? Politics!!!!

  2. In the first instance it’s a smokescreen to cover their in-house attempted whitewash of the sexual abuse of minors at their indoctrination camps.

    In the second instance it’s just more of her words. There’s no doubt she has a lot of them and the more I hear form her the more weasel like they are. This week’s expressions seem to be “keeping in mind” and “actively considering”. That, to my ear is PR speak for running on the spot. She chose (yet agin) to photo op and limelight grab by horning in on James’ Shaw accepting the petition yesterday. She absconded from an interview with our largest near neighbour Indonesia to do so. This is merely campaigning. This is not policy it is flag flying green washing cynicism.

    • Gezza

       /  March 20, 2018

      In the first instance it’s a smokescreen to cover their in-house attempted whitewash of the sexual abuse of minors at their indoctrination camps.

      Aw come on trav. I luv ya like a sister but you need get a grip. It wasn’t exactly a hotbed of pedophilia situation. Getting as bad as Hosking this morning saying the government wants “to ban foreigners”. Understandable you’re not happy with the all the waffle but let’s keep it real, eh?

      • Griff

         /  March 20, 2018

        Some drunk twenty year old trys to feel up a moisty or four at a party.
        Disgusting behavior definitely.
        Its not the big deal “sexual abuse of minors” those on the right are trying to manufacture .
        Sexual abuse of minors is like Christian heritage’s Graham Capill raping eight to twelve year olds because they were gagging for it.

        • PDB

           /  March 20, 2018

          The issue here is that Labour have attempted to sweep allegations of sexual abuse under the carpet rather than deal with them as would be expected. As to Ardern’s efforts this morning on her radio rounds she is simply trying to send out false signals to the Greens that she is listening but in reality it is like signing the TPPA after Labour protested against it – business as usual.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  March 20, 2018

          Griff, I could not believe that Graham Capill didn’t call it rape because he used his finger and not his penis to penetrate the girl/s. I understand that the law was changed to specifically include this sort of thing so that people like him couldn’t say that it wasn’t actually rape, they used something else to do the deed.

      • Of course it was a diversion Gezza.

        Love you like a brother (cough) but if there’s one thing that woman Arden is good at it is in being a media hog and agenda setter. She wanted off the ‘Party sexual abuse of minors’ issue, so she leaves Indonesia to their own devices and takes delivery of an oil and gas petition on a stage backed with ‘energy legacy photos’ of Labour politicians. She’s nothing if not a cynical photo op lady and she’s so good at it that she has you fooled.;)

        • Gezza

           /  March 20, 2018

          Feelin the love. 😀

          • Gezza

             /  March 20, 2018

            PS: Has me fooled? Nonsense. She’s reminding me more and more of Steven Joyce every day. Needs to do better than all this wombling on.

            • Did Steven ever pose like this? (excuse the boots – her worst fashion fax pas to this day!)

            • Gezza

               /  March 20, 2018

              Hang on. See what I can find. PS: I think she looks quite spunky there.

            • Gezza

               /  March 20, 2018

              It’s not a great look :/

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  March 20, 2018

              She looks a bit teenybopperish there, and it looks as if her skirt’s caught up in her knickers.

            • Gezza

               /  March 20, 2018

              Teenybopperish is being a bit silly. 20ish maybe. But she’s pitching to 10-24 year olds remember – before their brains have fully developed, so that’s ok. I don’t think she wears high heels because maybe she’d dwarf that fishing bloke?

  3. Zedd

     /  March 20, 2018

    YES.. its Time to live up to the ‘clean green 100% pure image’ we portray to the world
    not the dirty, polluted reality .. we see with fossil fuels & petrochemicals over use in NZ

    • David

       /  March 20, 2018

      You live in NZ right and you occasionally go outside.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  March 20, 2018

        He has a very messy backyard though.

      • Zedd

         /  March 20, 2018

        True.. BUT I have traveled overseas on several occassions & know that the ‘Clean Green 100% pure IMAGE’ is 100% pure B-S ! 😦

        • PDB

           /  March 20, 2018

          No one is ever going to be ‘100% clean green’ but do continue to beat yourself up over what is a very good advertising slogan – after all you still talk constantly about it & a survey in 2017 found only a quarter of New Zealander’s didn’t think it to be true.

          • Gezza

             /  March 20, 2018

            Can’t be right PDB. Everybody must know our great outdoors is giardia central and you can’t move in our nicest locations for freedom campers shitting in the streets!

            • I’ve actually had giardia after camping – so the worst thing to have

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 20, 2018

              Giardia infects mountain streams. Nothing to do with pollution. Spread by wildlife.

            • Gezza

               /  March 20, 2018

              Search Results
              “Giardia | Ministry of Health NZ
              https://www.health.govt.nz/your-health/conditions-and-treatments/…/giardia
              Dec 12, 2017 – Giardia. Giardia is a food – and water-borne disease that is caused by a parasite found in the gut of infected humans and animals (eg, cattle, sheep, cats, dogs, rats and possums).

              Giardia is common in New Zealand. The parasites can live in the environment for long periods – especially in lakes, rivers, streams and roof water.

              How do you get giardia?
              You get giardia from:
              – drinking contaminated water or eating contaminated food
              – being in contact with infected animals that are carrying the parasite
              – being in close contact with someone who has giardia – eg, people living in the same house or if you’re looking after someone who has giardia
              – swallowing water that contains the giardia parasite while you’re swimming or playing in lakes, rivers, springs, ponds, streams and so on
              – listening to trolls who live under bridges and make shit up.”

            • Gezza

               /  March 20, 2018

              (* that last one might not be in the original but it probably should be.)

            • Griff

               /  March 20, 2018

              Yess Alan
              Possums and rats are not a poltuion of our formally pristine environment that lacked mammalian representation .
              The fact they shit Giardia cysts into streams is not pollution either .

              Gee I am learning how to deny realty and play Semitic games to prove something…..

              Oh and just to make it obvious to some .
              {sarc}

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 20, 2018

              Possums and rats are wildlife not pollution. Been part of our natural environment for a long time just like all immigrant species. Research I saw some years ago showed giardia was more prevalent in the remote natural bush reserve areas than in farmland.

              Silly insults don’t wash, G.

            • Griff

               /  March 20, 2018

              Yess Alan
              More nonsense .
              From someone who spends time moving their Goodnature A12 around to kill the bloody “natural” wildlife.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 20, 2018

              Yep, just like we kill flies, ants, mossies, spiders, cockroaches and rodents, Griff. All part of nature.

              Your labelling them as pollution is farcical but typical of your mad extremism.

            • Griff

               /  March 20, 2018

              quod erat demonstrandum

  4. Worst thing I’ve had

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  March 20, 2018

      Thank you for sharing that with us.

      I had a bug a few years ago that was…well, I will draw a veil over the details, but will just say both ends at once.

  5. Possums decimate our forest and rats eat our native bird, eggs, skinks and lizards as well as poop in our streams.

    Bring back tailing and rat bagging for commission

    • A far better way to get the rural types into employment than tree planting,

      • Griff

         /  March 20, 2018

        Cheaper to provide these free to anyone who cares about our natural environment.
        https://www.goodnature.co.nz/
        I have one of each, rat,possum and stoat. set and killing .
        They need to make a pig one next.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  March 20, 2018

          The fibre could make us all millionaires. I saw a cape made of possum with merino, and while I don’t want to spend $2000 on a cape, this would have been money well spent. It was deevoon. A deep red and the fabric was indescribably soft. . Possum socks are so soft that I wouldn’t think that anyone would ever want to wear anything else once they had worn those.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  March 20, 2018

            I saw a weasel prancing across the walkway one day. It turned and gave me an old-fashioned look and disappeared into the undergrowth.