Media watch – Tuesday

27 March 2018

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    • sorethumb

       /  March 27, 2018

      This Is Why We Need to Talk About Diversity Helen Pluckrose
      Further, within intersectionality, the idea that diversity of identity is of paramount importance is closely linked to the idea, rooted in postmodernism, that knowledge is culturally constructed and dependent on an individual’s position in society and that this is predicated on their identity. While it is true that differing background perspectives may bring different information to the table, what remains unclear, even dubious, is the corollary idea that diverse background perspectives can bring different relevant information to bear on any given subject. Specialist skills, like coding, have to be learned from the ground up by everyone who engages with them, and it remains completely unclear how diversity of lived experience can impact these skills.

      One of the greatest assumptions of universal liberalism is that the acquisition of such specialist skills is ultimately up to the individual and accessible to anyone who wishes to learn them. Under intersectionality, however, people of a certain race, gender, or sexuality are assumed to think in largely the same way. Women will have certain perspectives, as will people of color and LGBT and disabled people. This assumption underlies the beliefs intersectional thought puts into practice: that to have a full range of perspectives we need an equal number of people from all demographics, and for all of their views to be respected on the grounds of identity. This is why believers will tell us we need to “stay in your lane” and that it is morally unjustifiable to talk about people from different groups — and why they will insist that two (or three!) white men cannot possibly have anything meaningful to contribute to a panel about diversity.
      https://areomagazine.com/2018/03/03/this-is-why-we-need-to-talk-about-diversity/

    • David

       /  March 27, 2018

      “Genter isn’t suggesting that old white men in their 60s have nothing to offer or don’t deserve to be on boards, she’s just suggesting that some other people also have things to offer and despite deserving to be there, they currently aren’t.”

      This isn’t what she is saying at all. She is clearly saying that it doesn’t matter what people have to offer, what matters is the colour of their skin and what kind of genitals they have.

      Her measure of success is diversity of race, age and sex, not the actual skills those people have.

  1. sorethumb

     /  March 27, 2018

    Things I learned at the oldest, whitest meeting in the world
    Hayden Donnell | Contributing writer

    Everything was white. The hair. The skin. The angels waiting to usher the crowd into heaven. Captain Scott was surrounded by more colour as he froze to death in an Antarctic blizzard.
    https://thespinoff.co.nz/auckland/12-08-2016/the-oldest-whitest-meeting-in-the-world/

    That’s The Spinoff

    • sorethumb

       /  March 27, 2018

      or rather, that’s the cult of diversity and a lot of die hard Labour supporters are unaware of how it motivates the Labour party.

  2. Trevors_elbow

     /  March 27, 2018

    Ooops Carol gas been lying and its cost her job… wonder why?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12020873&ref=NZH_Tw

    • sorethumb

       /  March 27, 2018

      Kathryn Ryan just had Tom Peters praising diversity. There isn’t much diversity (of opinion) on RNZ.
      “Diverse groups of problem solvers—groups of people with diverse tools—consistently
      outperformed groups of the best and the brightest. If I formed two groups, one random
      and (therefore diverse) [by definition], and one consisting of the best individual
      performers, the first group, the diverse group, almost always did better.” Bottom line, as
      he puts it, “diversity trumped ability.”
      Wow, is that counterintuitive, and, wow, is it ever important. Diversity, remember, lefthanded,
      right-handed, short, tall, came from America, came from Jamaica, came from
      China, every race, every gender, left-handed, right-handed—I don’t care what the
      difference is. If you sit down with a group to work on something and it is not a diverse
      group, you are really screwing it up big-time. And never, ever, ever let a group consist
      entirely of insiders from your organization or part of the organization. Diversity with a
      lowercase “d”—absolutely imperative to doing good work, and 9 out of 10 times we just
      don’t come close.

      http://tompeters.com/blogs/toms_videos/docs/Strategy_Diversity_Wins.pdf

      Until you qualify that it is meaningless. That sort of endeavours are we talking about? Does IQ matter? As Helen Pluckrose says: While it is true that differing background perspectives may bring different information to the table, what remains unclear, even dubious, is the corollary idea that diverse background perspectives can bring different relevant information to bear on any given subject. Specialist skills, like coding, have to be learned from the ground up by everyone who engages with them, and it remains completely unclear how diversity of lived experience can impact these skills.
      https://areomagazine.com/2018/03/03/this-is-why-we-need-to-talk-about-diversity/

      • Gezza

         /  March 27, 2018

        Give us a break FFS.

        • High Flying Duck

           /  March 27, 2018

          I hope you thoroughly read through that post before commenting.
          I’m sure it said something.

    • Gezza

       /  March 27, 2018

      A bit rough. Hirschfeld walks the plank but Curran keeps her job as Minister. Dodgy, this one.

      • High Flying Duck

         /  March 27, 2018

        What is hard to understand is that the lies seem so ridiculously unnecessary.
        Either there is more to the story, or CH thought it was a simple white lie she could move on from.
        Curran’s office contacted RNZ twice to let them know the meeting was planned…

        • Blazer

           /  March 27, 2018

          unnecessary alright…the Key defence was all that is required…I was wearing X hat at that particular…meeting not..Y hat!

          • Trevors_elbow

             /  March 27, 2018

            Your obession is bordering pathological… the bad man is playing golf, rolling in his cash and laughing at tragic leftie obssessives like you

            • Blazer

               /  March 27, 2018

              yes I saw him…wearing his golfing…hat.Rolling in dirty cash is…not healthy.

            • PDB

               /  March 27, 2018

              Nor is envy healthy for you Blazer…

            • Blazer

               /  March 27, 2018

              that gets trotted out every …week by those who worship money…take a..bow.

            • PDB

               /  March 27, 2018

              Money isn’t everything Blazer….maybe you should get out more – enjoy life.

        • PDB

           /  March 27, 2018

          Sounds like Hirschfeld was sticking to the agreed script whilst Curran instead decided to throw Hirschfeld under a bus.

  3. sorethumb

     /  March 27, 2018

    Refutes Tom Peters
    Does Diversity Trump Ability?
    An Example of the Misuse of Mathematics in the Social Sciences
    http://www.ams.org/notices/201409/rnoti-p1024.pdf

  4. Zedd

     /  March 27, 2018

    I saw Joyce gave his valedictory (farewell) speech.. I watched about 5 seconds; “Good Riddance” sez eye & I

    btw; perhaps Natl are listening to Ms JAG ?
    clearing away all the ‘old white men’ (from Team Key) & replacing them with; these Others ?? 😀 😀

    • PDB

       /  March 27, 2018

      Joyce is in his 50’s…Cullen, who is Labour’s ‘go-to’ tax man is 73!

      The irony of course is there are no Green party male MPs over 44 years of age in their ranks – hardly representative of the electorate considering males over 44 years of age make up around 20% of the population. Pot-kettle-black and all that.

      • Blazer

         /  March 27, 2018

        ‘Joyce is in his 50’s…Cullen, who is Labour’s ‘go-to’ tax man is 73!’………….and?

      • Zedd

         /  March 27, 2018

        @PDB

        so your point is ?

        OR was it..you just couldnt let my ‘loony left’ comment pass without your usual trolling ??