Genter talk with school pupils “inspiring and positive”

Many of us will have seen media reports of speeches or events we have witnessed, or interviews we have taken part in, differ from our own impressions.

Here is one example:

The Stuff item (22 March):  Minister for Women says old white men should ‘move on’ from company boards

Women’s Minister Julie Anne Genter says old white men need to “move on” from company boards to help close the gender pay gap.

Speaking to students at Christchurch’s Cobham Intermediate School on Thursday, Genter said the private sector needed to address the low level of female representation on New Zealand company boards if more businesses were to be led by women.

About 85 per cent of board members were male, and many were “old white men in their 60s”.

That part of Genter’s talk is unlikely to have been of much interest to a 12 year old girl.

Genter went to Cobham to visit 10-year-old Maia Devereaux, who sent the minister a pay equity petition after a class project on what a utopian society might look like.

I can understand a 12 year old being peeved about being referred to as 10 years old.

Maia said it was hard for her 40-odd signatories to refuse when the gender pay gap was presented to them on paper.

“I didn’t really have people who said no but I think there are people out there who would.”

I think that most people would agree with the principle of pay equity.

18 Comments

  1. Alan Wilkinson

     /  April 1, 2018

    Most people would think pay equity had little to do with the make up of company boards.

    • Gezza

       /  April 1, 2018

      Most people think Julie Anne should be talking to girls about learning what it takes to start up their own companies so they can appoint who they want to their boards. Instead of teaching them to disrespect their grandfathers.

      • David

         /  April 2, 2018

        The problem being, of course, that Julie Anne has not one clue about how to start a company. All she has is the ability to teach disrespect for others.

  2. duperez

     /  April 1, 2018

    The biggest lesson for the kids was the way the media dealt with the issue then the way morons, malcontents and the mischievous used that in their own warped ways.
    A real life lesson in cynicism to drown the innocence of youth.

    • Gezza

       /  April 1, 2018

      Unfortunately I wasn’t there so I don’t know the context. Probably be a good idea if JAG wore a bodycam and released the unedited footage when she visits schools, do you think?

      • duperez

         /  April 2, 2018

        Not knowing the context puts one at a great advantage. Presenting titbits with a cheeky intention for others to embellish is so much fun.

        The way for her to to save the effort of wearing a bodycam and releasing the unedited footage when she visits schools is to have her not visit schools. Or visit schools and not say anything. And of course have the same apply to anyone from her party.

        On the other hand it’ll be fine for those from other parties to visit schools, without surveilence, (except Ardern’s of course). They would never say anything, not provide one snippet which could be turned in to World War 3.

        • Gezza

           /  April 2, 2018

          I’ve considered those suggestions fully. Tbh, I think just making them all wear bodycams and release the unedited footage would be the simplest and best solution.

        • David

           /  April 2, 2018

          “Not knowing the context puts one at a great advantage”

          Explain the context.

          • duperez

             /  April 2, 2018

            A formal speech in a formal setting with the media arrayed to capture the detail and the mood is different than informal chit chat with the ebb and flow, to and fro with movement around and with a group of kids. I wasn’t at the occasion so won’t define it as some seem to have done – Genter making some grand (terrible) policy statement with an intention of inflicting it on the world.

            Some are portraying Gender’s visit to a school as some big propaganda mission with her out to brainwash children. The propagandising of the event is the over-reaction to some casual words.

            What’s it come to that a couple of casual words with some kids can have the equilibrium of the intelligentsia so upset?

            • David

               /  April 2, 2018

              The casual nature of it is far more instruction as to her actual beliefs. It was her choice to use the phrase ‘old, white, men’, and to then associate them, as an identity group, as a problem that is in the way of other identity groups getting those well paid board positions.

              It was a victim & identity group narrative. It wasn’t a mistake, she actually believes this.

              “What’s it come to that a couple of casual words with some kids can have the equilibrium of the intelligentsia so upset?”

              Ms Genter has a degree in philosophy from Berkeley, and a post-grad in International Political Studies, as well as a masters in Planning.

              Isn’t she one of the ‘intelligentsia’?

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  April 1, 2018

      I suspect the biggest lesson the kids didn’t learn is that the Greens know absolutely nothing about business.

  3. David

     /  April 2, 2018

    Nothing like propagandizing kids to advance your own agenda.

    • duperez

       /  April 2, 2018

      And nothing like propagandizing the situation of Genter to advance ones own agenda?

      • Corky

         /  April 2, 2018

        What do you mean?

      • David

         /  April 2, 2018

        She is an adult, and a politician. She is in the game, why on earth would she be protected from people pointing out the stupidity of her ideas?

        She, very explicitly, is trying to use some children as a shield from criticism. I’m surprised she didn’t get selected for the Australian cricket team given this behavour, she will be crying next.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  April 2, 2018

          It was a stupid thing to say to an audience who would not be remotely interested in company boards but would get the message about old white men. It was totally inappropriate for the age and place of the audience.

  4. Corky

     /  April 2, 2018

    ”This young wāhine toa – telling it like it is.” PC at it’s Zenith. Going by her name she’s not a wahine toa, she’s a French princess.

    Going by the letter, her mother is a reasonable writer…probably holds a middle management position.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  April 2, 2018

      Hardly a princess, It’s a common name, and there are many Irish people called that. It’s from Old French and means ‘from France’, so is no more regal than a name like Welsh or English.