Media watch – Thursday

5 April 2018

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  1. sorethumb

     /  April 5, 2018

    Talking about *racial profiling*. Guyon read a comment directed at The Guyon . Why are you always taking the [ ] Susi says ” oh not again!”. The Guyon says “signed G Lynch. Appropriately named?”
    ??

    • Gezza

       /  April 5, 2018

      #WTF? o_O

      • NOEL

         /  April 5, 2018

        Guyon has a flea in his bonnet claiming an Immigration NZ pilot program is racial profiling.

        The Greens jumped on the band wagon claiming

        “The use of identifiers such as race, age and gender in determining access to resource or opportunity is a clear breach of the New Zealand Human Rights Act,” she said.
        “The latest breach by Immigration NZ is heartbreaking. Immigrants are not data points in an algorithm, they are people who contribute to our communities and to our economy.”

        Add to that this an other comment,.
        The New Zealand Association for Migration and Investment said the programme is tantamount to accusing all migrants irrespective of their country of origin.

        But the official information states
        “The software has looked at historical information on about 11,000 illegal immigrants( my definition OVER-STAYERS no longer migrants), including their country of origin, age and gender, and whether they have been involved with the police, been illegally employed or used health services to which they were not entitled.”

        Racial profiling in this instance. Yeah Right.
        Immigration keep up the good work.

  2. Maggy Wassilieff

     /  April 5, 2018
    • PDB

       /  April 5, 2018

      Lets hope not – she’s a reminder of how inept/dodgy the new govt is and how weak Ardern’s leadership is on a daily basis.

      NZ Herald: “Curran promises the new government will be more open than the last: “Openness and transparency and doing things differently is important, so we’ve got to practise what we preach and actually do it”.

      Embarrassing.

      • phantom snowflake

         /  April 5, 2018

        “Lets hope not”: You must have a huge amount of contempt for New Zealand’s electors if you prefer they have a Minister Of Broadcasting who is deceptive, hypocritical and generally clueless.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  April 5, 2018

          Only for 50% of them, p-s. After all that’s exactly the Government they voted for.

        • PDB

           /  April 5, 2018

          If that was the standard snowflake then there wouldn’t be much of this govt left.

          If Curran staying on means this govt gets chucked out at the next election then that would be good for the country.

      • Patzcuaro

         /  April 5, 2018

        It maybe better if Curran stays on in Australia.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  April 5, 2018

          The Griffin voicemail will ensure she twists in the wind for a while longer.

        • phantom snowflake

           /  April 5, 2018

          I’m puzzled as to why Ardern hasn’t sacked her. Is there any real downside? It would give the Leader an opportunity to appear decisive and in control at a time when she has seemed anything but. The idea I’ve read here that it would upset the gender balance is merely closet misogyny. As if there aren’t female MPs outside of cabinet who would be more competent than Clare Curran!

          • Gezza

             /  April 5, 2018

            Christ 😮 Didn’t expect you to whip out a knife Snowy. :/

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  April 5, 2018

              Don’t cut her down. Enjoy the show.

            • Gezza

               /  April 5, 2018

              A fan of the fox hunt, Sir Alan? >:D

            • phantom snowflake

               /  April 5, 2018

              Yeah, I probably shouldn’t comment here immediately after a psychotherapy session lol.

            • Gezza

               /  April 5, 2018

              Nothing wrong with a bit of psychotherapy if you like figuring out what the psychotherapist’s problem is. 😉

            • phantom snowflake

               /  April 5, 2018

              But what if I was the therapist?

            • Gezza

               /  April 5, 2018

              Jesus! It’s worse than I thought :/
              Please tell me you’re not counselling a mirror … o_0

            • phantom snowflake

               /  April 5, 2018

              Why wouldn’t a person with Dissociative Identity Disorder have one identity who was a therapist and one who was a ‘therapee’?

            • phantom snowflake

               /  April 5, 2018

              Sorry folks, that’s some serious threadjacking. I’m out.

  3. PartisanZ

     /  April 5, 2018

    ‘John Key reveals failure to change the NZ flag as his biggest regret’ – NZHeraldo

    ” … his biggest regret was not being able to change the New Zealand flag.”

    Thought it needed repeating … because there you have it in a NUT shell …

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12026548

    Biggest regret of the last 9 years of National government … not failure to curb growing inequality and poverty … not failure to control and ameliorate the housing crisis … not failure to address a new Constitution and the place of Te Tiriti in it … not any of dozens of other major issues ….

    Nope … failure to get the new (old) flag he wanted …

    • Gezza

       /  April 5, 2018

      He was always in it for the CV.

    • High Flying Duck

       /  April 5, 2018

      Context is everything Parti…note the second sentence:

      “The reason I wanted to change the flag was to have something that was uniquely New Zealand, so that we could build a more overt sense of national pride,” Sir John said.

      “This is not the most important issue by a long way for the country, but ultimately I was unsuccessful in changing the New Zealand flag and I have always thought back on that.”

      Sir John said it didn’t pass because Labour and the Greens decided to turn it into a political issue and made it a referendum.

      “It is not going to change the world and there are many things we did, from the Christchurch earthquakes to economic issues that we dealt with, but that is the one I feel I definitely failed on,” he said.

      “I suppose I also have to take responsibility and say, well look, maybe there were some other things I could have done. To be frank, I think I should have just pushed it even harder.”

      • Blazer

         /  April 5, 2018

        the real reason was he wanted a legacy….Sir John…!

        • High Flying Duck

           /  April 5, 2018

          And what is your legacy to be Blazer? A small black cloud of doom hovering over the internet seeing evil whenever you look to your right?

          • Blazer

             /  April 6, 2018

            listen who’s talking….wears rose coloured glasses when the right are in power and then swaps them for dark glasses when there is a change of govt….the tumblin…duck.

      • PartisanZ

         /  April 5, 2018

        “I should have just pushed it even harder.”

        How would that be possible I wonder? Prime Ministerial DeeKrEY?

        “Thou, the peasantry of New Zeal Land, shalt be subject to this MY new flag”

        It would be hard to go past Key himself for “turning it into a political issue” … a nepotistic Flag Advisory Panel to do his bidding … they and him constantly promoting his favourites (two virtually identical flags by the same designer out of 30,000 submitted) … and, of course, lack of any Constitutional or Te Tiriti o Waitangi context …

    • MaureenW

       /  April 5, 2018

      Further .. “The reason I wanted to change the flag was to have something that was uniquely New Zealand, so that we could build a more overt sense of national pride,” Sir John said.”

      The “I” was a big factor in this one – and Key’s failure to change the flag was probably a good barometer that his popularity had waned. Glad it went to a referendum, and glad it wasn’t changed in isolation of other factors. Building a more overt sense of national pride isn’t about changing the table-cloth.

      • Gezza

         /  April 5, 2018

        It certainly wasn’t about changing TO a bloody All Blacks picnic tablecloth:! >:D

        • High Flying Duck

           /  April 5, 2018

          But the current flag remains shit…
          For me the issue was Labour and the Greens politicising it and doing a sudden u-turn on their own policy which was also to change the flag.
          A better process with buy in from all sides would have perhaps led to a better outcome.
          However, at the time Labour were barking at every car and against everything National were for, no matter their actual views.
          The flag alternative was actually a very good one – as its support in the referendum showed. I think it would have grown on the against crowd over time.
          It would have been good to see a little more diversity in the original long list though.

          • Gezza

             /  April 5, 2018

            Fair enuf, all that, it’s true. But I didn’t like the flag alternative & I didn’t like the process by which it was arrived or the bugger who started it. He’s knackered the idea for a decade or more now. We should change our flag. But we don’t need to spend 27 million on a flamin referendum. What a colossal waste of money that feckin was, even if the tablecloth had ended up being forced down our throats. It’s bad enuf our national carrier flies everywhere tarted up like a bloody All Black. For Chrissake. Surprised the feckin Hobbits weren’t wearing bloody All Black gear. In fact I’ll bet some of the poor bastards who acted in Lord of The Rings bloody did!

            • High Flying Duck

               /  April 5, 2018

              The process he followed was the exact process provided for by the Labour party. It is a fairly standard way of narrowing down options and then choosing.
              The fern is used by trade missions, all NZ sports, the army and basically any Kiwi’s going overseas. The AB’s are part of that, but the fern is essentially as kiwi as it gets. As is the black.
              I have sympathy with your dislike of the flag, and perhaps there was a better flag to use but the process wasn’t the problem so much as the circus the opposition turned it into. It was they who turned the narrative into the flag being all about JK.
              National had campaigned on the policy, as had the other parties so it wasn’t a personal vanity project until that is what Angry Andy promoted it as.
              If they had followed their own policy it could have been bipartisan and universal, given the politicians didn’t actually have any say in what flag was chosen.

            • Gezza

               /  April 5, 2018

              I’m not going to argue with you on that. Labour in Opposition were feckin useless. A whiny bunch of complainers who grizzled & snapped at everything on priniciple. The most negative party we’ve had for donkey’s years.

          • Blazer

             /  April 5, 2018

            you are a worn out record with trying to blame Labour for things on the most spurious grounds.Your ensless negativity and whataboutism speaks volumes about your personal…prejudices and the narrow portal you view the world…through.

        • PDB

           /  April 5, 2018

          Silver fern on black would have easily won the day if given the chance and was originally Keys choice before some idiots complained it was like the ISIS flag.

          • PartisanZ

             /  April 5, 2018

            When we do the monumental Te Tiriti o Waitangi ‘consultation’ and massive new written Constitution work … before 2040 … then we’ll get the right flag …

            Something akin to Tino Rangatiratanga, perhaps with a fern on the Black, is my pick at the moment …

            But the processes we must engage in – something akin to ‘truth and reconciliation’ – shall unleash creativity we can’t even imagine presently from inside our ‘closet’ …

            • In the current online political climate in New Zealand I doubt whether we will get close to discussing let alone deciding things like flags, constitutions, republics or anthems without petty arguments, spoiling tactics and shit fights.

            • Gezza

               /  April 5, 2018

              @PG. … and that’s just among the people that LIKE the idea … 😬

            • PartisanZ

               /  April 5, 2018

              ” petty arguments, spoiling tactics and shit fights.”

              That’s politics!

              However, throughout history, positive change happens despite politicking …

            • PartisanZ

               /  April 6, 2018

              Our comfy ‘post-colonial’ closet … filled to the brim with neo-colonial garments, shoes and hats from the geopolitical ‘opportunity shop’ …

          • Blazer

             /  April 5, 2018

            as if Key has some superior taste in..design…none of the designs had the x factor.

            • MaureenW

               /  April 5, 2018

              Agree ( not often)

            • phantom snowflake

               /  April 5, 2018

              No one with any design experience on the Flag Consideration Panel, strangely enough…

            • Pickled Possum

               /  April 5, 2018

              Yes PS We need some people who have some idea about vexillology

            • phantom snowflake

               /  April 5, 2018

              Vexillology! Can’t stop repeating it. Ta very much for new word!

  4. duperez

     /  April 5, 2018

    I see someone has appeared in Court for receiving stolen property – that of the Warriors league club. When it happened there was a big fuss about their jerseys being stolen.
    I wondered what the fuss was about seeing as there are about a million Warriors jerseys around and they bring out new ones at the possibility of the drop of a hat.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12026463