Oil and gas announcement a bad look for NZ First

The Greens and associated organisations were ecstatic after the announcement was made yesterday that no more offshore oil and gas exploration permits would be issued, and there would be no more onshore permits outside Taranaki (but existing permits would remain). It was seen as a big win for James Shaw and the Greens.

In contrast NZ First’s Shane Jones publicly squirmed, and Labour rushed to try to pacify criticism, especially in Taranaki.

Photos from the announcement were telling:

The power of a photograph. Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones holds his face in his hand.

Kevin Stent/Stuff

Stuff: Photo says it all: How Shane Jones reacted to Government’s oil news

“At the press conference it became pretty obvious there were two contrasting dynamics going on. A disgruntled Jones and a gleeful (Climate Change Minister James) Shaw,” Stent said.

Ardern and Minister of Energy Megan Woods don’t look over the moon either.

Stuff: Shane Jones says ending oil and gas exploration is the ‘only scenario’

Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones says the Government’s ending of oil and gas exploration is the “only scenario” and NZ First voters will have to accept that.

Jones fronted media alongside Ardern, Climate Change Minister and Green Party co-leader James Shaw and Energy Minister Megan Woods where he painted a picture of NZ First leader Winston Peters going to lengths to strike a deal with Ardern to keep any existing entitlements intact.

Speaking to media after the announcement Jones was frank about being a “pro-industry man” and being unable to “walk back from that status”.

“But I am one person and I am loyal to the agreements that are struck by my leader and the Prime Minister and it’s futile to talk about alternative scenarios.”

As both a NZ First MP and a self-professed “champion of the regions” Jones said “this is a genuine MMP Government, this is what the majority of New Zealanders voted for and we’re putting it into practice”

The announcement puts Jones and NZ First in a difficult position.

It may not have helped that coincidentally petrol pump prices rose yesterday due to rising international oil prices.

55 Comments

  1. artcroft

     /  April 13, 2018

    Jones and NZF are bloody useless. Forgetfully wandering the country looking for conmen to wasting a $1,000,000,000, only to have the Greens slash with a razor Taranaki from ear to ear. He then whimpers there’s nothing I can do. What a prick.

    • Blazer

       /  April 13, 2018

      how melodramatic.
      Read the detail,no effect for…decades.

      • Read the lips – an immediate effect from Taranaki people slamming the lack of consultation, enough to prompt an emergency PR trip by Little.

        • Blazer

           /  April 13, 2018

          yes to assuage their concerns..which are over blown and stoked up by the opposition.

        • robertguyton

           /  April 13, 2018

          “Oil Town sees writing on wall (finally!)”

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  April 13, 2018

            Lefties don’t.

          • Robert, do the Greens have a realistic plan transitioning from oil and gas? I get the desire to move to renewables, and generally I agree we should be moving in that direction, but is there a viable plan anywhere? I would appreciate a link, I’d like to post on it.

            • alloytoo

               /  April 13, 2018

              Hot air, mostly supplied by Shane Jone apparently

            • PartisanZ

               /  April 13, 2018

              Pete, already there’s a Purple Highway in Northland, with local govt+Energy Co. partnership charging stations …

              And while we’re talking about NZ being ‘sprung’ with a surprise ‘transition period’, are we really so stupid as to think other countries aren’t working on similar policies?

              And are we really so stupid as to think that in the age of ‘globalization’ and instant global communications, all these countries including NZ aren’t talking to each other about it?

            • robertguyton

               /  April 13, 2018

              Pete, I imagine the Greens have been working on transition plans for a very, very long time, hampered by the opposition/fear from all other parties. Only the Greens have had the desire to realistically address the issue of oil and its role in changing the climate. It’s time all parties got real and faced the challenge. I admire the Greens for their work here. They now have to cope with the fury of the oil-addicted and the hide-bound, typified by Simon ‘oil-man’ Bridges and his silly Deputy, “Grimacing Paula” Bennett.

          • David

             /  April 13, 2018

            “Oil Town sees writing on wall (finally!)”

            Robert, how about you head up there and tell everyone in New Plymouth how important it is they all get poorer to save the world.

            Might be a bit of a journey, you will need a pushbike and a warm coat.

            • robertguyton

               /  April 13, 2018

              They’re not getting “poorer” though, are they David. Have you not yet comprehending what the announcement said?
              How about you visit every person on the planet and tell them that you want oil-burning to continue full blast until the climate slams us so hard we cease to be?

            • David

               /  April 13, 2018

              “They’re not getting “poorer” though, are they David. Have you not yet comprehending what the announcement said?”

              They most certainly are. You are shutting down an industry and replacing it with nothing more than vague hopes and promises of ‘green’. That has a real impact. You said as much with your comment about ‘oil town’.

              “How about you visit every person on the planet and tell them that you want oil-burning to continue full blast until the climate slams us so hard we cease to be?”

              Well, I’m not going to do that because I don’t believe that is the case at all. It is all those individuals who are burning the oil after all.

            • robertguyton

               /  April 13, 2018

              “Shutting down an industry”, you say, David. Please explain. I’ve not read of this anywhere!

    • PartisanZ

       /  April 13, 2018

      Blazer is correct … this is just more Clayton’s Policy … generating a whole lot of fake news and rancid, polarised opinion …

      Why wouldn’t a Labour-led government ‘play up’ to their constituency … their coalition partners’ voters?

      Does anyone think National didn’t do this? “Roads of National Significance” my arse!

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  April 13, 2018

        You could have worded that last sentence better.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  April 13, 2018

          It’s a worry that it didn’t sound as Miss Ardern was too keen on discussion and consultation.

  2. lurcher1948

     /  April 13, 2018

    Thank god no deep horizon here from foreign cowboy oil companies.

  3. duperez

     /  April 13, 2018

    “Slash with a razor Taranaki from ear to ear”?

    • lurcher1948

       /  April 13, 2018

      Not for 40 years

    • robertguyton

       /  April 13, 2018

      Hyperbole! That’s my division, artcroft!
      (Did Paula Bennett put you up to it?)

  4. Alan Wilkinson

     /  April 13, 2018

    A majority of NZ voters voted for National and NZF. They did NOT vote for this.

    • Blazer

       /  April 13, 2018

      voters rarely vote on a…single issue..Al.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  April 13, 2018

        There are quite a few stacking up against this Government now.

      • admiralvonspee

         /  April 13, 2018

        And yet thereare 3 issues you’ve failed to…see.

        • Blazer

           /  April 13, 2018

          don’t be shy Graf….elaborate.

          • admiralvonspee

             /  April 13, 2018

            1) L…….r
            2) NZ F…..t
            3) G……ns

            one…two….three….see.

    • PartisanZ

       /  April 13, 2018

      OMG … it just gets more hilarious … Voters actually affecting policy …?

      What Universe are we in?

      But if voters did NOT vote for this, that’s good, because THIS is next to NOTHING …

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  April 13, 2018

        You would know that how?

      • PartisanZ

         /  April 13, 2018

        A mixture of observation and political intuition Alan …

        Just the next day after Labour-led’s O&G announcement it’s eclipsed in the headlines by racism in the retail sector …

        Much of the business ‘outrage’ looks either faux or grossly exaggerated to me …

        Here’s Kirk Hope in the Herald: “If a multibillion-dollar energy industry can be banned, what other industries might face the same fate? … Confidence among both overseas and domestic investors may be the longer term casualty of today’s decision,” said Hope. (The voice of National if ever I heard it!)

        Banned? A 30 year transition period is a ‘ban’ … ?

        The last lines of the same Heraldo article speak volumes –

        “Lobby groups and NZOG were also upset at the lack of consultation … Jeffries (NZOG) said the industry knew a big call was coming … “We were all prepared for a moratorium or a delay or a hold while there was dialogue and a debate. The thing that has surprised us is rather than that was the ‘no that’s it forever’.”

        I read mixed messages like, “I need to speak against this, even though its not all that bad. Most of all I need to show my National Party sympathies &/or credentials”

        If its true the government hasn’t consulted then they’re fools, I’ll certainly concede that. Backtracking by the government on this will not surprise me … because industry and their lobbyists ‘own’ governments now as far as I’m concerned …

          • Blazer

             /  April 13, 2018

            Mr Bridges has long been an advocate for drilling…

          • PartisanZ

             /  April 13, 2018

            I have zero faith in the utterances of National politicians any more …

            Listening to the Health Select Committee the other day I was astonished and incensed hearing Matt Doocey (Nat Waimakariri) towing their pre-judged, sanctimonious, utterly ignorant, reactionary ‘party line’ against cannabis in his questions while the others listened and responded with intelligence and compassion …

            Chris Trotter may have been wrong about Holland’s First National government … This Opposition, and by direct implication the previous Fifth National government, may in fact be “the crudest, most ignorant and bigoted collection of far-right reactionaries by which NZ ever had the misfortune to be governed” …

  5. Gezza

     /  April 13, 2018

    Taranaki markets itself as The Energy Province. It rescued the province from the rural devastation & destruction of the Douglas administration. After my lefty brother in New Plymouth iMessaged to say there goes this coalition’s votes from The Naki, I checked out how many Taranaki electorate MPs were from Labour. None. All 3 in Opposition. And they famously recognised Andrew Little & rejected him as a loser.

    Payback time, using Robert’s eco-fascists as an excuse? Possibly?

    • PartisanZ

       /  April 13, 2018

      Anything’s “possible” I guess Gezza … ?

      You didn’t vote for us so we’re going to destroy your local economy, a significant little portion of ‘our’ national economy … Yep, its plausible …

      How about this: The Maori contingent of Labour-led are getting ‘revenge’ against the ‘good’ people of Taranaki for not allowing Maori representatives on District Council and ruining the career of a fine mayor …?

      • Gezza

         /  April 13, 2018

        Yes, another possibility – good thinking. It’s all starting to add up. 🤔 Christ, these Labour/NZF/Green people are bloody vicious! 😮
        Who really knew, until Guyton spilled the beans?

        • Gezza

           /  April 13, 2018

          And look at Jones, the modest & humble self-proclaimed “First Person Of The Provinces” at that presser yesterday. Shaking, sweating, obviously forced against his will to confess in public he wasn’t happy with himself – like a politician accused of corruption in China. What are the odds the Greenshirts have his family at some eco-prison camp somewhere?

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  April 13, 2018

      Jacinda is just selling herself to the Ponsonby Lefty latte set that she identifies with. She hasn’t figured out that those votes are safe anyway and these policies are losers in the centre.

      • Gezza

         /  April 13, 2018

        Well this particular one might not be generally. It will hit Taranaki & cost Labour votes, but, in general, foregone future income from something that will never happen is actually not income and so I don’t know whether the populati at large are going to be all that concerned, and the future voters are kids at school and easily iinfluenced by friendyl-sounding eco-facist-supporting 5th columnists so they won’t see a problem with this until they end up forced labouring in forest garden eco-camps alongside old white men from company boards for disagreeing with JAG.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  April 13, 2018

          What’s to stop Maori candidates standing and being voted on ? Everyone else has to.There’s no law that says that no Maori can be on the council. I know quite a few who have been voted onto councils. To say that they have to be on as a right is racism that goes both ways, quite a feat.

          • Gezza

             /  April 13, 2018

            No it’s not racism it’s a Treaty issue.

          • robertguyton

             /  April 13, 2018

            “What’s to stop Maori candidates standing and being voted in”?
            Racism.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  April 13, 2018

              Not everyone is like you, thnk goodness. You may vote on skin colour, most people don’t. If you were right, there’d be no non-white people on councils.

        • robertguyton

           /  April 13, 2018

          Heavenly! 1000x better than a military academy; the food’s great, the scenery superb and the Overlords, kindly (unless you rub them up the wrong way, then it’s back onto supermarket food till you’ve learned your lesson!)

          • Gezza

             /  April 13, 2018

            Bollocks. The overlords are right shits outside of their own little happy hippy communes or talking to anybody with a different viewpoint. Savages, up North, in PZ’s experience. They helped sink the last Labour administration. Forced eco bulbs and shower heads got right up people noses.

            • robertguyton

               /  April 13, 2018

              We are charming and everything we do is for your own good, you know that, Gezza. “Savages”, Gezza? Mysogonist yesterday and racist today – your stay in the Gaian Garden will have to be a prolonged one – you’re not scrubbing up very well at all!

            • Gezza

               /  April 13, 2018

              Racist? Are you a moron? Explain that please?

          • robertguyton

             /  April 13, 2018

            “Moron” – are you ramping up the ad hominems for any particular reason, Gezza?

  6. robertguyton

     /  April 13, 2018

    ““Savage” is a colonialist term that has, in effect, been used for centuries to cast Indigenous peoples as less than human in order to make it easier to justify abuses against them. Today, when we use the word so flippantly — often in the context of “funny” social-media memes or blithe clickbait stories — we say we either don’t know or don’t care about the word’s historic relationship with ignorance and erasure, violence and hate.”
    https://theestablishment.co/stop-calling-people-savage-7746984d565d

    “Savage” is racist. On top of that, you sound dim-witted and moronic.”

    https://www.theodysseyonline.com/stop-saying-savage

    Just 2 for now. There are multiple examples.

    • Gezza

       /  April 13, 2018

      Don’t be such a literalist. That’s the trouble with you eco-facists. No sense of humour.

      • robertguyton

         /  April 13, 2018

        Yeah, that’s me, dry as dust, can’t see the humour in the funniest prat-fall (Hoskins crashing he car etc.) I’ll try harder to loosen up and enjoy life. You meanwhile, could lower the volume on your mysogonomobile radio – it’s irritating sensitive ears.

        • Gezza

           /  April 13, 2018

          Aw I’m not really all that misogynistic. Just like pushing on your buttons as much as you like doing it to others – and don’t think much of some of the Green female MPs.

          What’s your stance on the Kermadecs sanctuary – out of interest?