Ardern: “Because it was in the agreement and they’re contracts”, except…

Going by the Question Time transcript of the first few questions (there doesn’t seem to be video available yet) it was a bit of a shambles today. Perhaps everyone had been unsettled by a pointless waste of time going on about a baby somewhere else in the word – it could be chaos with a more local birth in a month or two.

One short exchange was more effective than the rest of the shemozzle.

David Seymour: Why is the Government honouring existing irrigation contracts?

Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: Because it was in the agreement and they’re contracts.

David Seymour: Why is that different with partnership schools?

Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: We’ve given partnership schools an option, and the majority of them look to be taking it up.

That may be ACT’s only questions for the week, but Seymour did a good job with them. Ardern really set herself up.

Partnership Schools had contracts, but the Government pretty much ignored that and gave them a choice of ‘taking up’ one option, or being forced to shut down.

25 Comments

  1. Trevors_elbow

     /  May 1, 2018

    Skewered… its different when its a Partnership School and the Unions own you…

    Rimmer done good

    • Gezza

       /  May 1, 2018

      Rimmer?

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  May 1, 2018

        Dunno. My great-grandparents were called Rimmer. He was the one whose leg was amputated after a cricket ball hit. He wasn’t playing Australia, one imagines.

        Yes, Jacinda dropped herself right in it. Own goal to Labour.

        • Gezza

           /  May 1, 2018

          It’s not the nicest thing to call someone. I wonder how it got out.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  May 1, 2018

            Er, yes, I have heard of ‘rimming’, but can’t see how this vulgarism has anything to do with anything in this situation and sincerely hope that David Seymour is not called that by anyone here.

            • Gezza

               /  May 1, 2018

              Who’s Trevor calling that then?

            • Gezza

               /  May 1, 2018

              Should I be downticking him for swearing?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  May 1, 2018

              Well, for being crude, it’s not a swear word, just a vulgarism and to call someone that without any evidence is an insult.

            • Gezza

               /  May 1, 2018

              Ok, I’ve downticked him for being crude. If he starts swearing about it, let me know.

            • Griff

               /  May 2, 2018

              Smeg me someone that ignorant of culture they have never heard of red smegging dwarf.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  May 2, 2018

              I read it in Jean Genet. I don’t what it is in French and don’t want to know.

              I wonder if the owner of the cafe here who would NOT change its name from Frottage or be told what it really meant (who knows what SHE thought it meant) has caught onto it yet.

            • Gezza

               /  May 2, 2018

              Not sure if that’s swearing but I’ve downticked it just to be on the safe side.

      • phantom snowflake

         /  May 1, 2018

        G: Arnold Rimmer is a dorky character in British Sci Fi/Comedy show Red Dwarf, who also happens to be a hologram. I’m not sure who first pointed out his resemblance to David Seymour, but there was even a frivolous question asked in parliament as to whether Seymour was a hologram.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Rimmer

      • Trevors_elbow

         /  May 2, 2018

        Griff knows. Down tick yourself for 1. Cultural ignorance re Red Dwarf. 2. Not seeing me ironically use Rimmer as a refererence to D. Seymour thereby tsking the piss out of Lefties….

        Just go look it up Gezza

        • Gezza

           /  May 2, 2018

          Well, you might just be saying that now to avoid getting downticked for smut though.

          • Trevors_elbow

             /  May 2, 2018

            Harden up knowitalll…. ya fidnt kniw it all… so ear crow… not Puke but crow….

      • High Flying Duck

         /  May 2, 2018

        Rimmer is a character on Red Dwarf (an excellent show in it’s time). The resemblance is more than passing:

  2. Kitty Catkin

     /  May 1, 2018

    If the charter schools were a total failure and David Seymour was being pigheadedly egotistical, it would be a different matter. But they work, here and elsewhere and the one that failed was closed. There are, I think, thousands worldwide.

    • PDB

       /  May 1, 2018

      Labour need to shut them down quickly because they are working & that doesn’t fit the narrative their union masters want to project.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  May 1, 2018

        The Vanguard (?) pupils are an excellent advertisment for their school. It makes Labour look very Big Brother and Sister and, far from consulting the people they are dictating to them.

      • PartisanZ

         /  May 1, 2018

        Their ‘working’ or ‘success’ is all about improvement though, isn’t it?

        A ‘C’ student who improves to a ‘B’ or ‘A’ within the State education system flies under the radar.

        An ‘F’ student who improves to an ‘E’ or ‘D’ outside the system causes a big colorful blip on the screen.

        A tiny percentage improvement at Partnership School level is highly applauded and noticed.

        It might take 10 times that percentage improvement in the State Ed system to come to anyone’s attention?

        The Partnership School percentage improvement might cost as much or more than the State improvement of tenfold more?

        “Everybody is a Genius. But If You Judge a Fish by Its Ability to Climb a Tree, It Will Live Its Whole Life Believing that It is Stupid” – attributed to Albert Einstein by Matthew Kelly 1955

        • Grimm

           /  May 1, 2018

          Use whatever sophistry you like. The point is they aren’t part of the teacher union protection racket, so must be shut down.

          • PartisanZ

             /  May 1, 2018

            I’d be more inclined to say that Charter Schools exist in the first place because of Right-Wing and ACT ‘Think Tank’ sophistry …

            The PPTA’s explanation seems reasonable to me …

            http://ppta.org.nz/news-and-media/backing-public-education-by-ending-charter-schools/

            • Grimm

               /  May 2, 2018

              No, Charter schools exist to shank the teacher unions. Both sides know that, all the rest is just fluff.

              Why shank the unions? Because they keep bad teachers in front of kids for too long. Just ask anyone on a school board. Secondly, they stifle innovation because they say no to even the slightest change.

  3. PartisanZ

     /  May 1, 2018

    Partnership schools may very well have ‘contracts’ but were they “in the agreement”?

    Seymour missed it … and even Jacinda missed it … DoH!

    While any alternatives to the orthodox ‘school’ are worth a try, those modeled on arcane military academies or archaic fervent religious beliefs are probably retrograde …

    Where’s Aotearoa New Zealand’s ‘Summerhill’ or Maori equivalent? If Te Rangi Aniwaniwa can do it within the system, why can’t others?