Giuliani did not have “his facts straight”

In the ever changing story about the hush money payment to ‘Stormy Daniels’, one of Trump’s latest revolving door lawyers, Rudy Giuliani, appears to be in damage control after putting his foot in his mouth in an interview yesterday. He now claims he didn’t have his facts straight.

With issues involving Trump ‘facts’ seem to be fluid statements of convenience, but as they change it is difficult to differentiate mistakes and lies. A lawyer speaking on a serious legal matter involving the President should have his facts straight before going on public television.

Reuters: Trump lawyer Giuliani defends legality of porn star payment

Hours after President Donald Trump said his lawyer Rudy Giuliani did not have “his facts straight,” the former New York mayor issued a statement on Friday saying $130,000 in hush money paid to an adult-film star before the 2016 election was not an election law violation.

Giuliani late on Wednesday revealed that Trump had repaid Cohen for the $130,000 the lawyer had provided to Daniels. Trump previously had denied knowing about the payment.

The next morning, Trump said on Twitter that Cohen was paid back through a monthly retainer, not campaign funds, to stop Daniels’ “false and extortionist accusations.”

Giuliani on Thursday had connected the payment to Stormy Daniels by the president’s personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, to keep quiet about a 2006 sexual encounter she said she had with Trump to the election, remarks that raised the possibility that the transaction violated federal election law.

“There is no campaign violation. The payment was made to resolve a personal and false allegation in order to protect the President’s family. It would have been done in any event, whether he was a candidate or not,” Giuliani said in a brief statement “intended to clarify the views I expressed over the past few days.”

Giuliani in a TV interview on Thursday wondered what would have happened if the Daniels’ claim of an affair had come up in a debate between Trump and his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, adding, “Cohen made it go away. He did his job.”

“Rudy is a great guy, but he just started a day ago. But he really has his heart into it. He’s working hard. He’s learning the subject matter,” Trump said.

“He’ll get his facts straight,” Trump added, though he did not specify the statements by Giuliani to which he was referring.

If Giuliani did not have ‘his facts straight’ that is appalling incompetence for a lawyer dealing with something like this.

Even Fox News raises questions in Giuliani clarifies statements on Stormy payment

Rudy Giuliani put out a three-point clarification Friday regarding comments he made in bombshell interviews this week about the hush-money payment to porn star Stormy Daniels and more, just hours after President Trump said the latest addition to his legal team would “get his facts straight.”

Notably, Giuliani did not walk back the statement that Trump reimbursed Cohen, in his clarification on Friday. But he tried to clear the air on several other potentially problematic statements.

Earlier Friday, Trump defended Giuliani as a “great guy” who “just started days ago” and said “he’ll get his facts straight.”

“When Rudy made the statements—Rudy is great, but Rudy has just started and he wasn’t familiar with everything,” Trump said Friday in a press gaggle at Joint Base Andrews. “He’s a special guy and he understands that this is a witch hunt.”

Also from Fox – Judge Nap: Giuliani’s Claim That Trump Didn’t Know About Stormy Daniels Payment Is ‘Unworthy of Belief’

On “Fox & Friends,” Napolitano said that Giuliani’s claim that Trump gave Cohen $130,000 and didn’t know where it was going is “unworthy of belief.”

He said it’s up to the American public to decide if they believe Trump is the kind of person who would “pour money down a hole” without asking to whom the money was going and for what purpose.

“How would Michael Cohen know that Stormy Daniels needed to be silenced?” he added.

Napolitano said the good news is that if the money came from Trump’s personal funds, then Giuliani is correct that there was no campaign finance violation.

“But it does create a problem because the president has said that he knows nothing about this. This is a problem between the president, his personal morality, his wife and his base on one side, and the president and the law on the other side,” Napolitano explained.

Whatever the facts, and Trump is known to often not care about facts and to bareface lie, this just makes aspects of his presidency more of a farce – a dangerous farce given what can be at stake.

 

40 Comments

  1. Alan Wilkinson

     /  May 5, 2018

    Daniels is simply another Democrat-funded attack on the President. Most Americans don’t care and his job approval continues to rise.

    • “another Democrat-funded attack ”

      Evidence?

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  May 5, 2018

        Her legal team funding.

      • David

         /  May 5, 2018

        Seriously Pete ! she and her lawyer are breaking an NDA which they will be fined for, they dont want anymore money from Trump and have absolutely no purpose behind their 60 appearances so far on CNN besides trying to undermine the President.
        They arent doing this just to find a very costly way of passing the time, someone is paying the bills and indemnifying them.
        The Americans just dont care and CNNs ratings reflect that. Trump slept with a porn star…omg shocking revelation, they would be more shocked if they found out he hadnt.

        • Gezza

           /  May 5, 2018

          I really don’t understand why you’re complaining David. Trumpy set the scene for this situation & he’s getting the payback to be expected when do & say the things he’s done & said. It’s the American way. It’s what makes America grate. And that’s what he wanted to do.

        • “someone is paying the bills and indemnifying them”

          Evidence?

  2. sorethumb

     /  May 5, 2018

    This is trying to get Trump on a technicality. . Trump won because people wanted the borders controlled.

    • sorethumb

       /  May 5, 2018

      A New York real estate developer who lives in a sparking Manhattan high-rise, Trump forged a striking connection with white, working class Americans who feel left behind in a changing economy and diversifying country. He cast immigration, both from Latin America and the Middle East, as the root of the problems plaguing many Americans and taped into fears of terrorism emanating at home and abroad.
      ……..
      The mood at Clinton’s party grew bleak as the night wore out, with some supporters leaving, others crying and hugging each other. Top campaign aides stopped returning calls and texts, as Clinton and her family hunkered down in a luxury hotel watching the returns.

    • Blazer

       /  May 5, 2018

      Trump won,because his campaign accurately zeroed in on concerns and he contoured policy to…fit regardless of any intention to implement it.

    • “Trump won because people wanted the borders controlled.”

      It’s far more complex than that. The states that swung the election to trump were just about as far from the Mexican border as you can get. Jobs and trade were probably bigger factors in his win – and don’t forget the Clinton campaign incompetence.

      • David

         /  May 5, 2018

        The states that have opiod crisis fuelled by cross border smuggling, the states where workers were having their jobs and wages undercut by migrants. Migrants dont just stop in border towns.

    • Gezza

       /  May 5, 2018

      Yes but many probably thought he would settle in to the job, presidentially get on with it, stop or cut back on the lying & puerile insult-throwing & smearing of people he doesn’t like, not flip flop all over the show & shit on his team who would never have any idea what idiotic bollocks he would come out with at any time, completely undermining them, divest himself properly of his business connections, not be blatantly nepotistic, eventually just implement his policies & things would be better & the troops would come home & stop involving themselves in stoking up wars in other countries, & he would not turn out to have been bonking other sheilas without his Mrs’s knowledge or approval. So it’s complicated.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  May 5, 2018

        On the whole his supporters think he has done what he promised within the constraints forced by Congress. Unemployment is below 4% and the more he gets done the better they like it. They don’t care about the media politics and legal warfare.

        • Gezza

           /  May 5, 2018

          Well, naturally, but they’re his supporters. As he said, he could shoot someone, & they’d they’d still vote for him. Their standards are that low, & he exploits that.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  May 5, 2018

            I think it would depend who he shot. He might have exaggerated slightly there.

      • David

         /  May 5, 2018

        And there is 3.9% unemployment, isis almost wiped out, NK progress, tax reform, progress on the border wall, illegal migration down 70%, a drop in the major crime rate, a huge freeing up of regulation, wages rising for the first time in a decade.
        Meanwhile fools clutch their pearls because a NY property developer from Queens is a little abrasive on twitter.

        • Gezza

           /  May 5, 2018

          I know. Crazy that he keeps doing all this stupid stuff but that’s what you have to expect from a narcissistic egotistical bully with a child’s temperament. So it will continue for the duration of his presidency.

          • David

             /  May 5, 2018

            The stuff you call stupid and look down your nose at as oafish behavior won him the biggest democratic prize in the world.

            • Gezza

               /  May 5, 2018

              He’s an appalling man David. A terrible role model for any child. If you want to continue worshipping him that’s your business but I think your standards for heroes are terribly wonky.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  May 5, 2018
            • Gezza

               /  May 5, 2018

              Um. Did you read that ? It’s

              Horth, 73, said Mr Trump was “charming” and “very excitable”, although he acknowledged the “incredible bluntness” and questionable morality of the President’s behaviour today.

            • Gezza

               /  May 5, 2018

              … more of an endorsement of my opinion than yours.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  May 5, 2018

              You have selected the journalist’s little effort to get your Lefty narrative into the story which is actually challenging it by someone who worked with Trump for years.

            • Gezza

               /  May 5, 2018

              I don’t have a lefty narrative on Trump. Your article acknowleges that someone I’ve never heard of liked him in the past because he inky e er saw him being nice & not abusing his staff or anyone at the time, & when he was all over his girlfriends and Mrs – but thinks he’s a bit of a shit now that he’s been all over his Mrs & one or more girlfriends at the same time & Mrs Macron says Melania told her she’s too scared to go outside.

            • Gezza

               /  May 5, 2018

              * never saw him being nice & not abusing his staff …

              Dunno where “inky e er” came from but I blame the government.

            • Gezza

               /  May 5, 2018

              * saw him being nice. Ah fookit. Who cares, point is your article says these days he’s not so nice & his Mrs knows it.

        • Griff

           /  May 5, 2018

          Real wage growth shows no significant rise.
          https://fredblog.stlouisfed.org/2018/02/are-wages-increasing-or-decreasing/?utm_source=series_page&utm_medium=related_content&utm_term=related_resources&utm_campaign=fredblog

          Crime has been falling for decades.
          http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/30/5-facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/

          Employment rate is on the same trend it has been on for almost a decade.
          https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/employment-rate

          Progress on the border wall,
          The wall amounts to eight sections about ten meters long .
          Sell high once you have the suckers no need to deliver Art of the deal.

          The tax cuts are Borrow and hope.
          USA dept rose as a result of the 2008 financial crisis Qe and bailouts.
          It was then slowly decreasing .
          Until the tax cuts that is.

          More than 1100 economists, including Nobel laureates and former presidential advisers, have signed a letter warning Donald Trump about his tariff-heavy approach to trade. Many of its passages quote directly from another letter sent in 1930, cautioning against protectionist measures the U.S. imposed at the start of what became the Great Depression.

          “Congress did not take economists’ advice in 1930, and Americans across the country paid the price,” the economists say in the letter, due for release Thursday. “Much has changed since 1930 -for example, trade is now significantly more important to our economy – but the fundamental economic principles as explained at the time have not.”

          • David

             /  May 5, 2018

            copy and paste, copy and paste, copy and paste copy and paste… sheesh try thinking for your self and having an original thought or cogent argument based on a fact not someone elses opinion they copied and pasted from somewhere.

            • Griff

               /  May 5, 2018

              Hello David
              I link to sources to allow others to check my statements for themselves.
              Often in a sentence or two you can not distill all the detail so it allows anyone with an inquiring mind to look at more nuanced information and examine my source for bias.

              My facts are demonstrable real and come from reasonably reputable sources .

              Your opinion is wrong on multiple counts and is based on nothing but your overactive imagination or reading to many propaganda outlets that spread FUD.

              “You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts”.
              Daniel Patrick Moynihan

              I have posted in the past using my own words why I believe trumps trade policy’s are negative for the USA and the world .
              The letter from economists to trump merely reiterates my view from an authoritative source .

  3. It’s worse then we’re making out. If Cohen wasn’t doing work for Trump when he paid the porn star, then the documents and correspondence associated with Stormy Daniels wouldn’t be covered by client attorney privilege. I think Rudy Giuliani’s new assertions were just an effort to keep more incriminating evidence out of the hands of the law. Makes everyone look stupid, lying and guilty, but he wanted to maybe avoid jail time for Cohen and Trump.

    • Gezza

       /  May 5, 2018

      Rudi’s principal qualification for working for Trump is puppy-like worship. The pup isn’t actually very smart & has obviously already pooped on his owner’s foot.

  4. seer

     /  May 5, 2018

    • Gezza

       /  May 5, 2018

      All class. The pair of them.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  May 5, 2018

        Trump job approval RCP avg still climbing, now 44.4%. Last poll Reuters has him at 49%. Dems better hope he doesn’t get a big win with Korea. They are probably busy sabotaging it right now..