Media watch – Saturday

5 May 2018


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  1. sorethumb

     /  May 5, 2018

    North Korea’s time-travelling is the latest example of a long historical tradition of rulers making political points by adjusting clocks and calendars. Doing so alters a fundamental aspect of daily life, literally at a stroke. What better illustration could there be of a ruler’s might than control over time itself?


  2. Griff

     /  May 5, 2018

    One early April post on right-leaning site Kiwiblog featured a whole thread discussing the rumours as a “personal scandal” in the comment section, with several commenters with thousands of other comments to their name spreading them.

    That thread remained up on Wednesday, but was soon deleted after Stuff contacted Kiwiblog editor David Farrar for comment.

    Farrar told Stuff he deletes defamatory content when it is brought to his attention.

    With two million comments and counting on the site it was difficult to keep on top of everything, and he didn’t routinely read the comments on every post.

    “When you get that level of comments you can’t go and read them all, you can’t go and read them all it would just take hours every day,” Farrar said.

    “I tried searching to see if I could proactively find some of it, and actually it’s really hard because people don’t necessarily use the name you would think, they sometimes use nicknames etc. It is really difficult.”

    He had suspended several users over comments concerning the Gayford rumours.\
    I tried to find out who DPF has banned.
    No strike comes up for 2018 that is relevant.

    • Trevors_elbow

       /  May 5, 2018

      Trying to stir Griff? A suspension is proved by what exactly?

      • Griff

         /  May 5, 2018

        I wanted to see who the person was spreading the rumors on KB.

        It is unusual that no strikes come up around the date that are not explained ……..In the past DPF has deleted the comments or not linked to them from the naughty step list in the comments menu .
        This is the first time I am aware of that he has not published the fact someone has had a strike.

        • I had a look at that too and found it unusual for Kiwiblog. I think that Farrar may have got a heavy handed legal wake up call.

      • Blazer

         /  May 5, 2018

        is this some more circumstantial evidence…’The accounts were generally anonymous, clearly right-leaning, and supportive of US President Donald Trump.’
        ‘Many of the accounts had been tweeting about the Labour camp allegations just prior to getting onto the rumours.’

        looks like a…duck…walks..etc.

        • “clearly right-leaning, and supportive of US President Donald Trump”

          That may mean they may have been more inclined towards national but the far right here have been fairly scathing of National.

          • Gezza

             /  May 5, 2018

            I’m thinking the whole thing must have just about run its course. A few in the blogosphere & the media might try & spin it out a bit longer to try & still capitalise on whoever it is they want to smear but the Police & Ardern/Gayford response has shut it down from being ever being publicly disclosed & public boredom has well and truly set in.

    • So circulating for “seven months” , according to Herald, yet first seen on Kiwiblog one month ago….and that’s where the problem lies, nasty right wingers – of course. Not allowed to have public acknowledgement of the actual rumour of course. Is your rumour the same as my rumour? We will never know.

      The Media are quite pathetic. Any wonder they’re being deserted and people go right over the top of them. “Trump supporting” – the virtue signalling, we’re alright and us Progressives can do no wrong stuff is lamentably laughable.

      Kim Dotcom’s bestie and hagiographer David Fisher.

      • Blazer

         /  May 5, 2018

        ‘hagiographer’….wonderful…moves into no.2 slot behind…’ad hominum…epithets’!

      • “yet first seen on Kiwiblog one month ago”

        At least as far back as February.

        • Well, I never saw it, not that I am a regular. First I know of was Garrett’s piece on 4th April.

          • When I get time to put it together I’ll show you what’s been tried here.

            • Pretty tame in comparison to the sheer scale and number of what happens in Auckland offices I’m guessing.

    • Gezza

       /  May 5, 2018

      And in the money too. So Garner’s tenanted investment property in Oz was a lot cheaper to build in Oz than here. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how many investment properties he has in NZ?

  3. Blazer

     /  May 5, 2018


  4. What?

      • Blazer

         /  May 5, 2018

        ‘The threat posed by Bank of America isn’t just financial – it’s a full-blown assault on the American dream. Where’s the incentive to play fair and do well, when what we see rewarded at the highest levels of society is failure, stupidity, incompetence and meanness? If this is what winning in our system looks like, who doesn’t want to be a loser?’ Matt Taibbi

    • Gezza

       /  May 5, 2018

      I’d really need PZ to unpack that one.

  5. Blazer

     /  May 5, 2018

    In recognition of freedom and democracy.Here is a list of countries whose citizens are really free and democratic.


    7:20 AM – 4 May 2018

  6. This should be interesting tomorrow. I’ll put up a post on it in the morning.