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10 May 2018

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28 Comments

  1. David

     /  May 10, 2018

    Time to be a little cautious team, spending on cards down 2.2% despite a big rise in petrol prices, concrete poured in Auckland down 8.4% in the March quarter lets see what the building stats say anecdotally its been quieter.\ and confidence in the sector at 2008 levels.
    Confidence is always a lead indicator and sure there is always a dip when Labour are in charge however the drop was colossal and remains low. Labour market remains strong as do the government books which to be fair is more English than Robertson who has done little.

    • PDB

       /  May 10, 2018

      Don’t worry – Labour will just buy more homes already being built, slap a ‘Kiwibuild’ sign on them and claim them as part of the number of extra houses they promised. Likewise they have already claimed all the trees already being planted as part of their tree-planting quota as well as a wharf in the Chatham Islands they opposed the building of as part of their boost for the regions.

  2. lurcher1948

     /  May 10, 2018

    Mr Trump explain why the deal with Iran is such a bad deal other than the fact it was Obama’s deal,it does not bode well for the NK deal due to the fact you shaft people and countries regulary,and will in a hissy fit tear up any treaty you make,and that’s a fact.

    • lurcher1948

       /  May 10, 2018

      Morning down ticker, loved your post…WAIT

  3. lurcher1948

     /  May 10, 2018

    Miss you Chuck Bird from the King Country come back and post,IT ISNT AN ECHO CHAMBER HERE
    Chuck Bird
    I will going to hear Simon Bridges this morning in Hamilton.

    Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 LOG IN TO REPLY REPORTMAY 10, 2018 8:31AM

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  May 10, 2018

      He’s not from the King Country; I have known him for years and been to his house.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  May 10, 2018

        Oh, PDT, grow up. He’s been to my house, too, when my husband was alive.

  4. Corky

     /  May 10, 2018

    Some charter schools are registering to go mainstream. They know its a vain attempt to keep vulnerable kids in education. The fact is most kids in charter schools are there because they don’t fit into mainstream education. I can’t see women’s rights, gay day and how to recycle because of climate change holding their attention. Neither will a worm farm.

    They will drift off, back to crime, drugs and the street. All because of ideologically driven fugwits. Labour in my opinion will have blood on their hands over this issue.

    Roll on 2020. Not only have we lost our surplus on a number of ”one-off payments.” We are also going to lose some of our kids.

    • duperez

       /  May 10, 2018

      The fact is, that in saying “The fact is most kids in charter schools are there because they don’t fit into mainstream education”, will draw an invitation to back the statement up with facts.
      This is that invitation.

      • Corky

         /  May 10, 2018

        Invitation declined. You will be able to monitor the fallout yourself. That’s a fact.

      • High Flying Duck

         /  May 10, 2018

        “All of these schools are focused on improving educational success for their Priority Learner (Maori, Pasifika, Decile 1-3 students, and special needs students) cohorts. The Contract these schools have entered into with the Ministry specifies that at least 75% of their enrolments must be ‘Priority Learners’, sets high targets for educational success, specifies, among other things, that the schools will accept enrolments in the order they are presented up to their maximum roll, and prohibits the charging of school fees.”
        Some of the schools are 100% priority learners.

        http://etipuerea.org/partnership-schools/existing-schools/

    • lurcher1948

       /  May 10, 2018

      They could build a Maori prison,add Te Reo and call it a closed wall charter school,there solved it for you Corky,
      PS and access to unlimited negative Kiwiblog posts

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  May 10, 2018

        Lur-CHER !!!! 😀 You are awful ! 😀

        Ear woffles to Red and Jess !

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  May 10, 2018

          Duperez and others; ignore that person and he may go away, for good this time.

  5. PartisanZ

     /  May 10, 2018

    Mike Hosking, who I usually don’t bother reading, is singing a different tune for a change in NZHeraldo Business this morning … although he takes a fuck of a long time and as many put-downs of welfare and the unemployed as he possibly can to get to it …

    Appease and sweet talk your regular punters first Mike and then, if they read to the end of your Kiwifruit and ‘produce’ rant …

    “So work galore, a massive labour shortage, and yet, as any economic supply and demand graph will show you, wages should be rising and they’re not … Why not?

    Could it be employers are holding out hoping they can patch the gaps? Could it be they rely on the Government loosening the visa restrictions? Or could it just be when you’re selling a … kiwifruit at $3.50 you might just have to pay a bit more to get it off the vine in the first place?

    You might have to, instead of hoping for the best on $17 or $18, start shelling out $21 or more and actually attract labour to your door.

    Isn’t that the point of economic expansion and success, the money and profit gets spread about the place? Maybe the ball’s in the employers’ court; maybe it’s time we shake off the low wage economy tag, and start handing out the dosh; maybe it is time for a pay rise.”

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12048344

    WHAT!? “Maybe its time for a pay rise”!!!???

    It’s Rightie sacrilege! Lift wages? Are you kidding!? Operate in the Labour market based on “supply and demand”, the same way we do in the produce and commodity markets!? [Perhaps especially Real Estate?] You have gotta be fucking with me?

    Why didn’t he just say, “Damnation upon them – may their children be cursed – that new government’s made it harder to import cheap labour”!!! That’s not FAIR! That’s not playing ‘globalization’ by the Rightie rules they themselves introduced back in ’87! Where’s the ‘level playing field’ in that?

    Holy Yeshua, he’s arguing FOR trickle down!

    • Gezza

       /  May 10, 2018

      It is kind of an odd situation when you think about it. Hey everybody I’ve made huge numbers of something that should make me a fortune without having a plan to complete it. It’s the government’s fault.

      • PartisanZ

         /  May 10, 2018

        Of course Gezza … I should have seen it … It’s the government’s fault.

        Ummmm ………………. Which government?

        • Gezza

           /  May 10, 2018

          I don’t know. Whichever government isn’t supplying enuf people or machines to pick n pack the product. I mean, he’s made the raw product. So now it’s someone else’s job to finish the job & make his fortune. Isn’t it? If it’s not his, it must be the government’s. Or maybe the community’s?

    • PartisanZ

       /  May 10, 2018

      Holy Yeshua, he’s arguing FOR trickle down!

      My only error in my original post. Mike Hosking is arguing, in effect, for something that might be called “press down” or “force down” rather than “trickle” …

      Apparently the sweet syrup of neoliberalism is far too thick to trickle down ….

  6. PartisanZ

     /  May 10, 2018

    It’ll be interesting to see what sentences are handed down …

    ‘Jimmie McNicholl and Lance Ryan admit roles in $8m Ponzi fraud’ – NZ Heraldo

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12048843

  7. Corky

     /  May 10, 2018

    Mikey has his hand on the pulse of our Nation….and that pulse has become irregular for Labour and its coalition. Roll on 2020…the silvers gone, next will be dishwasher.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12048645

    • PartisanZ

       /  May 10, 2018

      Mikey – “I am receiving large levels of correspondence, and I am not the only one, from people saying they are embarrassed or ashamed that they voted New Zealand First.
      They feel duped, ripped off, if not hoodwinked.”

      This should read: I am receiving MASSIVE levels of VERY SIMILAR correspondence, and I am not the only one, from THREE or FOUR people saying they are embarrassed or ashamed that they voted New Zealand First. They WERE duped, ripped off, AND hoodwinked.

      Dear Mike’s not the only one because Far-Right and/or race-hate groups’ ‘cloned’ letters-to-the-editor, media releases and supposed ‘private’ emails can be sent to millions of destinations thousands of times a day …

      • Corky

         /  May 10, 2018

        I am hearing similar. The lavish funding of Island nations seems to have been the last straw.
        Of course Australia and New Zealand should have been onto China over a decade ago.
        To late now. China is investing in infrastructure- the most important thing for any nation.
        We seem to be handing money over to our spend-up-large cuzzies and hoping for the best.

        So you think Mikey is full of crap ,eh! Well, let’s see what the polls say closer to the election.

        • Gezza

           /  May 10, 2018

          Depending how things go for most people, whether they end up better off or worse off, you might be right. Labour will pick up Pasifika votes in NZ for this, but they probably already had those anyway. The election’s 2 1/2 years away yet, though – early days.

          The polls & post-budget analyses are when things will get really meaty. And when Winston takes over soon is when things will get really weird. Question Time will probably be a circus like we’ve never seen.

          But – when you say Australia and New Zealand should have been onto China over a decade ago – what do you mean? Should we have ramped up the spending in the Islands then and kept it up under the Key Administration?

          • Gezza

             /  May 10, 2018

            (If you haven’t got any idea what you meant, no reply is needed.)

  8. Griff

     /  May 10, 2018

  9. PartisanZ

     /  May 10, 2018

    Safe Journey … Rest in Peace