Another mass shooting, more prayers, Trump flips

Mass shootings in the US seem to be about as common as violence in the Middle East, and are far more common and more dangerous than terrorism.

Paltry prayers have been offered, demands have been made again that something must be done, but President Trump is now up to a flip flop flip on doing something about rampant gun violence.

Reuters: Texas Shooting Suspect Had Message for Classmates: ‘You Will Pay,’ Witnesses Say

A 17-year-old student confessed to opening fire at his Texas high school on Friday, killing 10 people, and told investigators that he had spared certain students “so he could have his story told,” the authorities said.

A Galveston County Sheriff’s Office investigator wrote in an affidavit that Dimitrios Pagourtzis had waived his right to remain silent and had given “a statement admitting to shooting multiple people” at Santa Fe High School. The investigator, identified only as J. Roy, also wrote that Mr. Pagourtzis had said that “he did not shoot students he did like so he could have his story told.”

Mr. Pagourtzis’s apparently well-planned assault in this rural community of about 13,000 people was the deadliest school shooting since February, when 17 people were killed in Parkland, Fla. But investigators said that Mr. Pagourtzis had given no overt indications that he was planning a mass shooting.

“Unlike Parkland, unlike Sutherland Springs, there were not those types of warning signs,” Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas said, referring to the Florida school attack and a siege at a church last November.

Mass shootings are awful, but not unfortunately not unusual in The United States of America.

The Gun Violence Archive statistics for the year so far, including the Santa Fe shooting.

  • Total number of incidents 21,938
  • Number of deaths 5,433
  • Number of injuries 9,877
  • Mass shootings 101

Horrific, and horrible that the US seems powerless to do anything substantial about the problem.

This compares to an estimated 512 terrorist attacks world wide with 2,692 deaths – see Terrorist Attacks.

President Trump has responded saying mass shootings have been ‘going on too long in our country’, but not long ago promised a National Rifleman’s Association rally that he would protect gun rights.

Politico: Trump says mass shootings have been ‘going on too long in our country’

The president says he is ‘determined’ to protect students after the latest school shooting leaves at least 10 dead.

President Donald Trump on Friday said mass shootings have been “going on too long in our country” and promised action after a Texas community was rocked by a school shooting that left at least 10 dead.

“My administration is determined to do everything in our power to protect our students, secure our schools and to keep weapons out of the hands of those who pose a threat to themselves and to others,” Trump said, speaking at a White House event on Friday. “Everyone must work together at every level of government to keep our children safe.”

He indicated he would do something after the Parkland shooting in February.

Trump, who briefly alarmed gun-rights activists by suggesting aggressive measures after the February shooting in Parkland, Fla., did not specify what sort of actions his administration might take.

The usual thoughts and prayers:

At a prison reform event at the White House, Pence and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner voiced sympathies for the victims.

“We’ll continue to monitor the situation and we will make all federal resources available to first responders and school officials in the wake of this incident,” Pence said.

“I just want to send our thoughts and prayers to the people of Santa Fe,” Kushner added.

Trump, in remarks near the end of the prison reform event, offered a somber tone as he told those affected by the latest shooting that “we’re with you in this tragic hour, and we will be with you forever.”

But he recently pandered to the NRA:

However, Trump returned to more strident language during the National Rifle Association’s annual convention earlier this month, telling attendees that their Second Amendment rights “will never, ever be under siege as long as I am your president.”

As lethal sieges at schools and other public places continue unabated in the US.

25 Comments

    • Gezza

       /  May 20, 2018

      Aljaz tv quick news summary is reporting Trump Junior met with reps of the UAE who were in interested in helping his old fella in his Presidential campaign, Sir Alan. It’s illegal for the aid of a foreign power to be sought for these. Junior says nothing came of it?

    • MaureenW

       /  May 20, 2018

      Ive read that it was Halper who first mentioned the Russians hacking the DNC emails to Papadopoulos and arranged the meeting between Downer and Papadopoulos, whose drunken conversation became one of the keystones in obtaining the Fisa warrants. This is part of the Insurance Policy referred to in the Stzrok/Page texts that was cooked up in Andy’s (McCabe) office.

      Also funny, from James Clapper, was a statement he made on CNN that implanting an informant” was a good thing after earlier declaring there was no evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia.

      https://www.dailywire.com/news/30831/obamas-director-national-intelligence-if-fbi-spied-hank-berrien
      https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/full-clapper-no-evidence-of-collusion-between-trump-and-russia-890509379597

    • Joe Bloggs

       /  May 20, 2018

      The exposure that the trump campaign likely colluded not just with Russians, but also Saudis, Emirates, and Israelis is more likely to have an impact than proven-liar trump calling squirrel over Halper’s investigation of trump’s Russian links.

      • MaureenW

         /  May 20, 2018

        Joe, I doubt that planting a spy/informant into an opposition’s election campaign is “squirrel”.

        Interesting also, is that Page and Papadopoulos were the first two hauled in by Meuller for questioning after having the russia/email idea planted by Halpin

        http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/25/george-papadopoulos-london-emails/

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  May 20, 2018

          This post is about a mass murder of children, not the Russians and their possible involvement in political campaigns.

          • MaureenW

             /  May 20, 2018

            Whoo-hoo – you can collect $200 and pass Go.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  May 20, 2018

              That sort of puerile flippancy is totally disrespectful to the murder victims. I know that you like to try to score cheap points at my expense, but this is hardly the place for that sort of thing. Have some respect for the children, their families and the dead teacher. Or if you can’t, don’t make it so obvious.

            • MaureenW

               /  May 20, 2018

              What dribble you write, trying to justify your churlishness with an attempted guilt-inducing rant about dead children.
              Al posted (probably) in the wrong place – he got a few comments – mine was one of them. That’s it!
              Save your bloody sermon, it needs a violin to set it off.

        • Joe Bloggs

           /  May 21, 2018

          and isn’t it interesting Maureen that Page and Papadopoulos both have form relating to Russian spies?

          Page was linked with Putin’s spies Viktor Podobnyy and Igor Sporyshev in 2013, hence the FBI bugs in his office from that time (and again in 2016). And of course Papadopoulos has pled guilty to lying repeatedly to the FBI about his contacts with the Russians.

          At what point Maureen will you accept that it’s illegal for foreign powers to interfere with American elections?

          Your mental gymnastics to get all butt-hurt over people kneeling for the American anthem and somehow be ok with having foreign powers interfere in American elections is astounding.

  1. lurcher1948

     /  May 20, 2018

    The rights new idea,one entry/exit to all schools yes that will work with a school fire.Trumps supporters don’t care about children and shootings it’s all about the 2nd and MAGA and that god to death the NRA.
    My thoughts and prays and thanks go to those nations who put the public’s safety ahead of donations from the arms lobby and rightwing groups like the NRA.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  May 20, 2018

      Good idea to have one exit – I DON”T think. Some fool locks it and starts a fire (or raises the alarm that there’s a fire, starts shooting….and picks people off as they try to get out.

      Thoughts and prayers won’t do much, Mr Trump.

      I saw one girl saying that no, she didn’t feel that it was unreal that it had happened at her school – I forget the exact words. But whereas most of us would say that such a thing felt unreal and we couldn’t believe that it had happened, to her it was something that was all too possible and had.

  2. George

     /  May 20, 2018

    According to the shooter he only shot people he didn’t like.
    The ‘good guys’ went unscathed.
    Moral.
    Don’t piss the local nutter off

    • Corky

       /  May 20, 2018

      Your advice has come too late for me, George.

      • Gezza

         /  May 20, 2018

        Jesus! 😮 You’ve been shot ? 😳

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  May 20, 2018

          Read it again, Gezza.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  May 20, 2018

            Corky thinks that he’s being funny.

            • Gezza

               /  May 20, 2018

              😉

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  May 20, 2018

              Yes, I don’t really think that talking about murdered children is an appropriate forum for smartarse comments, but two people here don’t seem to think as I do.

  3. Zedd

     /  May 20, 2018

    what do you expect from a society that has always promoted ‘the right to bear arms’ ?!
    every cop has a gun & every house likely does too.. you can buy a gun without a background check, in many states & some even have an ‘open carry’ policy

    I still remember the words of Emma Gonzalez from the Parklands school.. ‘we know Mr T got $30mil from NRA, in campaign donation’.. ‘we call B-S’
    There is a saying (bible ?) ‘out of the mouth of babes.. ‘, comes truth

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  May 20, 2018

      To my surprise, it’s ‘out of the mouths of babes and sucklings comes STRENGTH’. I thought that it was wisdom, but looked it up in one of my books of quotations.to make sure.

  4. sorethumb

     /  May 20, 2018

    I think the right to bear arms argument is philosophical; a rejection of state control? The problem being the state is being controlled by an oligopoly which you can’t fight with guns.