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38 Comments

  1. lurcher1948

     /  May 20, 2018

    How to make money in the USA
    http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44168094

    • Corky

       /  May 20, 2018

      Land of the free. Land of the bold, Lurchy. No decent welfare system to fall back on over there. Everyone has to hustle. Otherwise it’s skidrow.

      Aren’t we lucky. Nanny State has a benign eye on us.

  2. Corky

     /  May 20, 2018

    I’ve seen some highlight of ‘the wedding’. They say no one beats America for producing a spectacle. Well, no one beats the English for pomp, ceremony and a continuing nod to cultural heritage.

    I’m wondering about progeny. What if Harry”s ginger gene is prominent, and Meghan’s recessive African genes come to the fore? The mind boggles..what will the public ”nickname’ that prince or princess?

    I think the Queen will sense there’s been a generational ‘handing over’ of the royal reins.
    She will start questioning her relevance. My guess is she, and Prince Philip, will leave this mortal coil sooner, rather than later.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  May 20, 2018

      It’s ‘shuffle off this mortal coil’ and doesn’t mean death, as is obvious from the context in the play. Hamlet, which you may have heard of. Shuffling off this mortal coil means something like being rid of an intolerable burden..

      • Corky

         /  May 20, 2018

        ”’Shuffling off this mortal coil means something like being rid of an intolerable burden..”

        Quite.

        I wasn’t quoting from Shakespeare’s Hamlet, I was plagiarising. Just as the good bard wasn’t above doing. To repeat, this isn’t a formal English class. Please go elsewhere to get your fix.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  May 21, 2018

          Rubbish. Shakespeare didn’t plagiarise, he reused plots quite openly. There is an enormous difference between reusing a story and passing off someone else’s work as your own, and if you are going to plagiarise, don’t plagiarise Shakespeare ! Everyone knows where this quote comes from, the chance of getting away with it (which is the idea of plagiarism by definition) are zero,

          You obviously thought that shuffling off this mortal coil meant dying, please don’t try to talk your way out of it.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  May 22, 2018

            If Shakespeare was a plagiarist, so were Wagner (Ring Trilogy), Walt Disney and everyone else who has made their own version of Cinderella and other fairy tales. Chaucer would be one, too, as his characters retell old stories and Chaucer did, too, as in Troilus and Criseyde.

            These people were not, of course, plagiarists, as they didn’t use other peoples’ words and try to pass them off as their own.

  3. Corky

     /  May 20, 2018

    Another dairy robbed. Two in fact, according to latest news reports. One dairy owner took his ‘lumps” like a good boy. No sense with trying to defend yourself, especially if police say they”ll get back to you with possible assault charges pending.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/104050762/dairy-owner-punched-to-the-ground-for-chippies

  4. lurcher1948

     /  May 20, 2018

    Some like it hot, live stream

  5. lurcher1948

     /  May 20, 2018

    I struggle to understand rightwing blogs posting on the internet, and are they under any sort of moderation??this popular rightwing blog(KIWIBLOG) supporting National seems to be a free range blog where NAZIS and RACISTS run free,where the vilest posts pass muster,but then the right are bitter for some reason

    Obviously Harry & Meghan have many thousands of supporters that really love them. During the wedding and the ride back in the open carriage the love was clearly demonstrated.

    Move forward to around July 2020 just prior to the election when the commie chick and the fisherman tie the knot. As much as I try I am unable to see thousands of Kiwis screaming their love for the two stooges as they are carried down K Road on the shoulders of the Labour caucus members.

    I figure by then the only mob that will be screaming at them will be a lynch mob.

    • Gezza

       /  May 20, 2018

      I figure by then the only mob that will be screaming at them will be a lynch mob.

      Flipping heck, Lurchy. How bad a mess do you think Jacinda & Grant are gonna make? I thought with a bit of luck things might not be too big a disaster by 2020? Bridges will have been given the arse card for being useless. Amy or some dark horse will have seized power in National.

      • lurcher1948

         /  May 20, 2018

        CRUSHER for president for life

  6. Corky

     /  May 20, 2018

    Quite an interesting IQ graph. There are a few surprises, but mostly it tracks true if you equate population behaviour and what certain countries have given to the ‘sciences.’
    There cannot be criticism of any developing country. Everyone has to learn the hard way.
    However, criticism should be directed at developed nations who stick with this bullshit of multiculturalism and treating every culture as equals. These ratings show the absurdity of such thinking.

    Sometimes ratings don’t tell the whole story. For example, many older Solomon Islanders are well versed in English literature and are highly educated thanks to Christian missionaries.

    https://www.iqtest-certification.com/en-us/nations-iq-statistics

    • Griff

       /  May 20, 2018

      VII. Payment terms

      The User shall Pay the Provider for provision of the results of the test 5 nzd.
      The payment is payable through a premium text message that is provided by Fortumo with registered office in Ülikoooli 6a, 51003, Tartu, Estonia, this is payable within 14 days from the completion of the IQ test. Should the payment not be made by this deadline, the User looses the righ to the provision of the result of the test.

      I dont need to spend 5 bucks to find out my IQ.
      I already know it.
      The test in the link is not able to reliably discern IQ scores over about 115 points anyway.
      It does not have enough questions at the high end to be a reliable examination of people with higher IQ’s.
      Do the mesa test and you will see what I mean.
      http://nzlweb.com/index.php
      That’s to find out if you might score over about 130 points.

      • PDB

         /  May 20, 2018

        “The test in the link is not able to reliably discern IQ scores over about 115 points anyway.”

        You’re all good to go then Griff!

      • Corky

         /  May 20, 2018

        I think you misread my post. I have no interest their IQ test.

        Regarding the Mensa test link. I was given that test as a pre-test to see if I qualified for sitting their qualifying admission test. I scored 32/33 but never sat the main test after learning they mainly sit around tables eating chocolate cake and solving puzzles. I’m with a different group that puts their intelligent to use trying to solve the worlds problem and creating things and protocols to make humans lives better.

        The Mensa dude was either a chap named Mike or Dave Wong. I guess that shouldn’t come as a surprise.

        • Corky

           /  May 20, 2018

          My point expressed by someone who can actually write.

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=2044103

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  May 20, 2018

            I am just managing not to say it.

            • Corky

               /  May 20, 2018

              If you have something to add to the debate,please state it now.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  May 21, 2018

              Well, telling us that your points have been made by someone who can actually write is an admission that you can’t, but I was too polite to say it.But if you want it said….

        • Griff

           /  May 20, 2018

          Paying 5 bucks to find out your IQ in a test not actually able to give a reliable IQ score for the gifted means the ranking is skewed due to self selection factors.
          Ie the result and country rankings are garbage due to half smart peploe not falling for the 5 dollar scam and realizing the result is worthless for them anyway.
          As I had to point this out my evaluation of your IQ just dropped 1sd.

          • PDB

             /  May 20, 2018

            Not to worry Griff – here’s a test I’m sure you’ll score off-the-chart on!:

            https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/NPI/

          • Corky

             /  May 20, 2018

            ”Ie the result and country rankings are garbage due to half smart peploe not falling for the 5 dollar scam and realizing the result is worthless for them anyway.”

            You still aren’t getting it. We don’t know what data was used to rate these
            countries. My accepting there may have been some validation of said ratings was based on my premise:

            ”There are a few surprises, but mostly it tracks true if you equate population behaviour and what certain countries have given to the ‘sciences.’’

            Nowhere did I claim this was conclusive evidence of legitimate ratings, as per this example I gave:

            ”Sometimes ratings don’t tell the whole story. For example, many older Solomon Islanders are well versed in English literature and are highly educated thanks to Christian missionaries.”

            I’m sorry I had to spell this out for you.. Giff.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  May 20, 2018

          32/133, more like.

  7. lurcher1948

     /  May 20, 2018
    • Kitty Catkin

       /  May 20, 2018

      Poor Melania ! I wonder if he visited her or just sent a $1 card.

  8. lurcher1948

     /  May 20, 2018

    OHH NO not another fail for trump, so sad,never mind…he will get over it
    https://t.co/rDGuDsTJQH

  9. lurcher1948

     /  May 20, 2018

    Does anyone remember this sad individual who was a ACT MP but had to RESIGN FROM PARLIMENT,( the shame and embarrassment) due to illegal actions, he posts a lot of nasty posts on nearby rightwing blogs, and is given guest posts, standards are not very high on rightwing blogs,unlike here
    David Garrett
    Upcomer: Ah yes, the “loving” rod of a prescribed thickness with which the owner may beat his four chattels!

    I got ejected from a function recently for questioning some hijab clad women on the precise rules on such “loving” beatings…One is not supposed to ask such things…apparently…especially if one is an old white guy, like me
    As i said the right GO LOW with their low standards

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  May 20, 2018

      I am not surprised, it was an insulting question to ask anyone.

      Muslim women are not regarded as chattels either in the Koran or elsewhere.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  May 20, 2018

        There are a few who advocate this, and the reaction from both Muslims and non-Muslims was predictable when a book was published.

        A video was circulated here that not only advocated but demonstrated child-beating in the name of good discipline. Some so-called Christians even believe that babies should be hit to teach them to be obedient. Baby wriggles when a nappy’s being changed – a whack on the bare bum will teach them not to.

        Nobody would think that this was standard Christian practice. I hope !

      • lurcher1948

         /  May 20, 2018

        Can you Imagine have to resign from parliament for being a cad ,ie a lowlife bringing the position of MP into disrepute then moaning on rightwing blogs…standards were not high in the ACT party then

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  May 20, 2018

          They were, actually. He did something stupid when he was at university, was discharged without conviction and was hounded by the press for it 30 years later. The Tongan ‘assault’ was a jack-up. CCTV showed that he was attacked and responded as anyone would….for which he was charged. As I remember it, he was injured by his attacker.

          No wonder he was soured, who wouldn’t be ? Hounded out of parliament for an action that he did in his 20s and that he was discharged without a conviction for. He has become a bit extreme since I knew him, I must admit. My husband knew him much better than I did, of course.

    • Corky

       /  May 20, 2018

      Talking of the hijab , Lurchy. I was happy to see none along the wedding procession route.
      There may have been some I didn’t spot, but on the whole it seemed Muslims stayed away.
      I wonder if they know who Prince Harry is?

  10. Griff

     /  May 20, 2018

    Tesla model 3 4wd and performance details just released by Elon.

    Tesla dual motor, all-wheel drive performance Model 3: 3.5 sec 0-60mph 155 mph Top Speed 310 mile Range
    Cost of all options, wheels, paint, etc is included (apart from Autopilot). Cost is $78k. About same as BMW M3, but 15% quicker & with better handling. Will beat anything in its class on the track.
    Cost of normal dual motor AWD option is $5k. Range is also 310 miles. Takes 0-60mph to 4.5 sec & top speed to 140 mph.

    • Gezza

       /  May 20, 2018

      Wonder how big a rocket it will take to put that one into the sun.

    • Gerrit

       /  May 20, 2018

      Why is it they never tell you battery recharge time. Well actually they do and it is not prety reading

      “The company’s “superchargers” can fill up a Tesla in 30 to 40 minutes, compared to the typical three or four hours on a 220-volt public charging station.”

      One charge will get you 500K,s down the road. You wont reach Wellington in one go and need a 30 to 40 minute recharge at a Tesla recharge station. Of which there are exactly zero.

      Worth a read

      https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601063/teslas-cheaper-model-3-could-strain-charging-infrastructure/

      First world problems due to a lack of infrastructure in regards charging stations

      “I charge my car in public parks and mall parking structures around Los Angeles, using a diversity of charging networks run by startups such as Chargepoint and Blink. I typically pay $5 to $10 to charge up. Every single station has been, for years, mediocre to terrible. The stations are often broken due to software or hardware problems, and remain out of service for weeks. Competition among electric car drivers for these public charging stations is fierce and intensifying. It’s practically impossible for me to find an open charging station during the day.”

      And

      “The majority of people who own electric cars today charge their vehicles at night in the garage or driveway of a home that they own. But that is changing fast. The vast majority of new electric car sales are to people who live in cities, which makes sense because the vehicles are very efficient at stop-and-go urban driving. Charging at home at night can be impossible for people who rent an apartment or lack a garage.”