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  1. David

     /  May 23, 2018

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/22/labour-allows-male-activist-stand-womens-officer-identifies/

    The UK has gone totally overboard with its trans politics and done under the Tories and the Labour party is having a battle royal over its women only lists and its just hilarious. They contorted themselves into knots in an effort to not offend the feminists who they were trying to help but they have annoyed them no end in an effort not to offend the trans community who are equally excitable.
    When you do identify people by their group and not as individuals the inevitable outcome is chaos and conflict…and great amusement to 98.3% of the population who dont care.

    • Missy

       /  May 23, 2018

      Nothing to do with the Tories who don’t do women’s only anything. This is a Labour policy, and the activist did this to illustrate how ridiculous the Labour policy is that a person is whatever gender they say they are, he said he identified as a woman on Wednesday’s only and this is why he was allowed to stand.

      This policy is why over 300 Labour women resigned from the party on May Day. Labour’s policy on trans rights is undermining women’s rights, but more importantly it illustrates the issues that arise when a political party focuses too much on identity politics.

      • Blazer

         /  May 23, 2018

        no the Tories prefer men (of breeding)clubs only…
        ‘Pratt’s
        A men-only club with a long list of current and former Tory MPs as members. Howard Flight described it as “very characterful and eccentric.”

        Etiquette dictates that you sit for dinner at a round table at the next available chair, next to someone “you might find has been running a country in Africa 20 years ago,” said Flight.

        “There are all sorts of interesting and characterful people.”

        Like the Beefsteak, serving staff have a single name, with men referred to as “George” and women referred to as “Georgina.”

  2. David

     /  May 23, 2018

    Reuters is reporting the GOP has taken a 6 point lead in the generic ballot over the Dems, I think they were 14% behind and there was talk of a blue wave. Who knows they might keep the house and the senate.
    Trump…winning again.

  3. Corky

     /  May 23, 2018

    Oh, dear. Andy may have a problem repealing the ‘ Three Strikes Law’. That impediment is Winston Peters.

  4. Corky

     /  May 23, 2018

    I love watching the jostling and show boating outside schools at around 3pm. Middleclass parents turn up in SUVs with roof racks and other trendy paraphernalia. Even poorer parents have people movers of some description.

    Well, once petrol hits three bucks we’ll see a thinning of the ranks and learn who’s the real deal, and who has vehicle repayments they now can’t afford. Auckland should be a cracker.

    • Gezza

       /  May 23, 2018

      The strangest things seem to give you immense pleasure, Corks. It’s like you get up every morning & spend some time thinking about who to hate on and who to sneer at today? Is that what actually happens? Just curious. o_O

      • Corky

         /  May 23, 2018

        You are quite wrong, Gezza. Someone once told me I saw nothing, and when I saw something, I only perceived one aspect of what I was seeing. In other words, being a keen observer isn’t enough. One observation has many threads and stories to tell. I just choose to explore threads most people don’t consider. Best piece of advice I ever received..

        • Gezza

           /  May 23, 2018

          I see. No worries then. Cheers Corks. 👍🏼
          I’ll take that as a ‘Yes’.

          • Corky

             /  May 23, 2018

            You can take it anyway you want. That is not my concern.

            • Gezza

               /  May 23, 2018

              I’ve given you an uptick for your equanimity.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  May 23, 2018

            I wonder that anyone would turn up outside a primary school often enough to observe that and not worry that they’ll be taken to be a pervert.

            • Corky

               /  May 23, 2018

              I’m picking a child up from school, Einstein.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  May 23, 2018

              You still have a child at school after 25 years ? That must be a record. You told us that you’ve been involved with the school for that long, so there must be a great difference in the ages of your children !

    • PDB

       /  May 23, 2018

      StuffNZ: “When the Government signalled plans to introduce a special fuel tax in Auckland, transport officials warned Transport Minister Phil Twyford that such a measure had been tried before and failed. At least twice.

      For all the good intention – that motorists benefiting from major transport projects pay their share – there is little that can be done to prevent the impact of the tax increase spreading across the country.

      Proving exactly who is paying what when it comes to excise tax on petrol is hard, because the giant tax bill is paid in bulk.

      But there are signs that rather than spilling over when the tax comes into force, that the sharp price increase in recent weeks could be price spreading in anticipation of the price increase.”

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/104114068/the-auckland-fuel-tax-always-looked-doomed-just-not-quite-this-quickly

  5. Corky

     /  May 23, 2018

    So, which Green MP is a Jew hater? I could have a guess, but the obvious may not be so obvious. New Zealand has a fine tradition of Jew hating socialists. The lady speaking in this video is obviously naive. Fifth generation New Zealander, or not. She’s still a Jew. That means more than a few people in this country and globally hate her.

    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/05/which-green-mp-hates-jews-so-much-they-harass-them-via-email/

    • Missy

       /  May 23, 2018

      The last sentence in that post implies something that is completely untrue. By saying ‘Looks like we’ve got ourselves a Ken Livingstone inside the Green party.’ Slater implies Livingston sent abusive emails to Jewish people, which he did not. I really think that Slater has got to stop talking as though he understands what is happening in the UK, he doesn’t, actually he doesn’t seem to have a grasp on what is happening in NZ let alone elsewhere in the world.

      • Corky

         /  May 23, 2018

        ”The last sentence in that post implies something that is completely untrue. ”

        You are probably correct, Missy. However, I was more interest in the Jewish lady. Either she was telling the truth..or she was lying. If she was truthful, there’s a good chance that one Green MP is an ardent Jew Hater. Maybe more. Slater’s comments for me are irrelevant fluff to the core issue- Green MP> email harassment> unacceptable behaviour for sitting NZ politician.

        • Gezza

           /  May 23, 2018

          Well, what’s interesting about that is that the lady concerned says that she is a Zionist, and that she has received hate mail from a Green MP. If the email(s) she refers to simply question or criticise her support of Zionist objectives then she may be claiming that is hate mail.

          The best thing here for the lady to do is release the email(s) & I am frankly suspicious that she hasn’t done so.

  6. lurcher1948

     /  May 23, 2018

    So David Seymour the party of one, soon to depart next election

    doesn’t want state housing in his leafy sheeple suburb, as they are lower class, and HDPA doesn’t want them anywhere near her, well labour Build a tower block on each side of this righty HDPA and for good measure buy the house over the road for a “wet” house, HDPA is proud to be a “NIMBY” so build state houses high enough to bock her views sun and put a few cheap booze shops in her street,Lurcher1948 bringing the poor and social housing to your suburb

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  May 23, 2018

      The Left are never grateful to those who fund their lifestyle, Lurch.

      • Blazer

         /  May 23, 2018

        workers fund everyones..lifestyle…Six…including..yours.

    • Corky

       /  May 23, 2018

      State housing brings a state mentality to your environment. Who the hell wants that, Lurchy?

      • NOEL

         /  May 23, 2018

        Yeah much like all State house tenants have mental problems.

        • Corky

           /  May 23, 2018

          Your point?

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  May 23, 2018

          I have wondered that about much of the population, NOEL.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  May 23, 2018

      He didn’t say that, Lurch.

      I imagine that many people would not appreciate a five storey building in their street which houses people with social and mental problems. David Seymour simply stated the facts.It is other people who have put words into his mouth.

      Five storeys will block the views and light of those nearby. which would be seriously annoying.

      The house across the road from us was once used as this proposed building will be used, and it was not very pleasant to have such neighbours. This is not nimbyism, it’s realism. If someone has mental problems, they are not ideal neighbours and can be most unnerving.

      People have a right not to have those who need care but could well not be having it living near them. Who’d buy a house when there are unpredictable people living across the road ? Be realistic. As a woman living alone, I would be very worried if this was near me.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  May 23, 2018

        The PDTs must be very forebearing people; no objection to their houses being darkened and their views ruined by a tower block. Nor do they seem to see any reason why women alone would dislike having mentally ill or antisocial people living next door. Wake up, PDTs. If you like the idea, write to the government and suggest that they put them next to you.

  7. Alan Wilkinson

     /  May 23, 2018

    When it’s ok to enroll on the Maori electoral roll whatever your ancestry but not to have a tattoo or call it whatever you like:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/104129315/moko-kauae-are-the-sole-right-of-mori-women-indigenous-womens-collective

    Brought to you by the racist PC enforcement agencies.

    • Corky

       /  May 23, 2018

      ”A group of Māori women academics and artists. ” I tried my best, but my consciousnesses closed down after 5 seconds. I’m sure I’d have found the article offensive.

    • Gezza

       /  May 23, 2018

      What does the moko signify & tell people, in Maori terms, Alan?

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  May 23, 2018

        Who knows, G. Could be anything, like the Treaty.

        • Gezza

           /  May 23, 2018

          Well why don’t you find out before opening your gob?

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  May 23, 2018

            Because everyone you ask will have a different answer. Now stick that in your own gob and chew it.

            • Joe Bloggs

               /  May 23, 2018

              Alan you’re so cute when you’re angry thanks for sharing and bringing a chuckle or two into my life… continue to be awesome!

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  May 23, 2018

              Hate to disappoint you, Joe (not really) but I wasn’t angry – merely returning Gezza’s gob serve low over the net into the far corner.

          • Joe Bloggs

             /  May 23, 2018

            C’mon Gezza, don’t feed the troll. He just wants your attention. Don’t give it to him. Take a deep breath, walk away, and don’t waste your time getting into an online fight. He’ll never change.

            • Gezza

               /  May 23, 2018

              I’m very fond of Sir Alan, Joe.
              I live in hope that by gentle persuasion and bonhomie one day I shall lead him into the light.

            • Pickled Possum

               /  May 23, 2018

              Had to look that one up bro, Bonhomie.
              Thort it was related to Bohemia shades of Freddy.
              Butt NO it means cheerfulness, friendliness, geniality etc.
              So your in with a grin there, our Al is all of these.
              I am wondering about this ‘light’ you talk of tho’??
              Is it hanging off a disco ball? 😉

    • sorethumb

       /  May 23, 2018

      She’s a silly Moo
      for getting a Tattoo
      (anywhere)
      But on the face
      Is rather queer?
      Had she been having a
      Beer?

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  May 23, 2018

        The people who wear
        Cotton reels in each ear
        And cover their bodies
        With tats crude and shoddy
        Must be out of their minds,
        And some day they will find
        That the cost of removal
        Does not bear perusal.

        The lobes of their ears
        Will stetch so, I fear,
        That they’ll reach down their necks
        And as far as their pecs.
        They can cover the tats,
        But the ears ? luck with that.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  May 23, 2018

          If tattooists have any sense, they will also train in tattoo removal for when rhe people who have them want to get rid of them. Make money putting ’em on and taking ’em off.

          The ears will never go back after they’ve been stretched a certain amount. The sight of ears that almost reach the shoulders is not a pretty one and should put anyone off.

        • sorethumb

           /  May 23, 2018

          I saw a bloke with quite a biggish ring in his nose (it suggested connecting a chain to it and leading him around), still that’s his choice.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  May 24, 2018

            Was it one of those that is through the middle like the ones that pigs have ? Those must HURT when they are done. Ears are bad enough. I don’t regret having mine done, but it was painful.

    • Pickled Possum

       /  May 23, 2018

      Tawhiao Matutaera Potatau Te Wherowhero had ta moko … (maori tattoo).

      In early days the tattoo was chiselled with an uhi (chisel) made out of albatross bone,
      ash from certain trees was used for the dye.
      Kauri ash was mixed with fat for pigment.

      Now we have needles and machines and dyes made from …
      Carbon (soot or ash) is also used for black. Other elements used as pigments include antimony, arsenic, beryllium, calcium, lithium, selenium, and sulphur.

      Tattoo ink manufacturers typically blend the heavy metal pigments and/or use lightening agents (such as lead or titanium) to reduce production costs.

      Tohunga-tā-moko … (tattoo specialists) are predominantly men altho there are some woman.

      Mokomokai … (tattoo heads) were sought after by pakeha a great many left these shores.

      Women usually wore moko on their lips (kauwae) and chins.

      Ta moko is traditionally given when a person is transitioning from childhood to adulthood.

      Ta moko is visual, it is about the artist excellence, the wearer’s identity and role
      they play in their world.

      Mataora, the living face.

  8. lurcher1948

     /  May 23, 2018

    So the police haven’t done anything about Wellington Peace Action for placing a mock bomb in a picture theater,GOD THE POLICE ARE USELESS, they should have shouted fire and even then plod would have said we are out on the road dishing tickets out.Wellington police never there when you are burgled

    • Corky

       /  May 23, 2018

      Seen the tattoos on many of the new police recruits, Lurchy? Enough said.

      • Gerrit

         /  May 23, 2018

        A song just for Corky

        I don’t care how many tattoo’s a person has, To paraphrase Martin Luther King

        “I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin (or tattoo’s), but by the content of their character

        • Corky

           /  May 23, 2018

          I’ve done that. The calibre of police recruit is declining, along with an increase in tattoos. Tattoos generally belong ( but not exclusively) to a certain mindset.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  May 23, 2018

        During the 81 tour my wife was amongst a big crowd of protesters arrested in Chch and was processed by a female cop who asked her if she had any tatoos. She answered rather surprised and indignantly that she didn’t and the cop got very bolshie with her. A different world.

        • Gezza

           /  May 23, 2018

          Did she look like a sailor or say anything about sailing, Al? o_O

  9. lurcher1948

     /  May 23, 2018

    Daily volcanic update

  10. Gezza

     /  May 23, 2018

    50 minutes until Question Time: The Trevor Show.

    I’ll see if Simon does any better today, but the signs aren’t good.

    Anybody care to speculate on exactly when they’ll swap him out?

    • Gezza

       /  May 23, 2018

      Question 1 got pretty exciting. Trev’s policy of taking questions off the Opposition & shutting them down too often for questions to the Government got challenged strongly by Big Gerry & Paula. Trev got stroppy. Big Gerry called him some name off microphone & Trev is still contemplating his punishment. When he finished his last telling off of Paula and asked if she had another question she said, angrily, “I’m leaving!” and walked out. :o_O

      • Gezza

         /  May 23, 2018

        • Corky

           /  May 23, 2018

          All grist for the mill.

        • Zedd

           /  May 23, 2018

          this was before she threw a temper tantrum & walked.. more signs; the Natl MPs, cant handle being in OPPOSITION !

          • Zedd

             /  May 23, 2018

            Mallard has apparently changed the stance of dealing with ‘unruly MPs’ BUT it does seem that Natl dont do change very well.. still stuck in FPP thinking; ‘we know best & we demand to tell everyone !!’
            get over it Natl.. its 2018

            • David

               /  May 23, 2018

              Have a listen to the answer Ardern gave several times to Bennetts very simple question about a 15% increase in students for our 2.8 billion of tax dollars. She didnt answer, didnt attempt to answer and made several speeches and the speaker not only didnt require her to answer but allowed her to prattle on.
              Cant blame National for getting frustrated and not bothering with the whole thing.

            • Gezza

               /  May 23, 2018

              this was before she threw a temper tantrum & walked.. more signs; the Natl MPs, cant handle being in OPPOSITION !

              No it isn’t – it’s in there, right at the end. Paula replying to Trev asking if she had another supplementary question with: “Nah, I’m leaving – what a waste of time” – & including Trev then sarcastically saying “For how long” & then looking up into the public and press galleries to see if he’d get away with that.

          • Pickled Possum

             /  May 24, 2018

            Petulant child MP, “Nah, I’m leaving!
            Exasperated Speaker, “For how long?

            So funny Paula, showed your true blue sooky la la colours there girlie.
            Go Trev!! He looks like he’s dealing with a school girl when dealing with Ms Bennett with eye rolling, sighing and general looks of disbelief.

            When I remember the inane silly jokes and riddling from Key and all his minions laffing till their side nearly burst I just think Suck it up!! National
            There is no room for bullies in da house this time!

        • David

           /  May 23, 2018

          Trevor is woeful. Bennett asks a short concise question and Ardern launches into a speech without being pulled in, Bennett re asks the question and off she goes again without being pulled in, Bennett adds a few facts to the question and mallard nails her.
          The last speaker was forever bringing Key to heal for the same thing and forcibly.
          Mallards giving out and taking away supplementary is a stupid juvenile stunt that has left the opposition almost silenced.
          Question time is the only chance the opposition have to actually hold the executive to account, it is a critical part of our democratic system and that needs an impartial (and grown up) speaker who doesnt think its his job to gallantly look after a young pregnant woman.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  May 23, 2018

            He seems to be blatantly unimpartial. It’s extremely obvious that he favours Labour. Paula Bennett seems to have had every reason to walk out.

            Mallard’s behaviour with the questions is a gross abuse of power.He’s behaving like an unfair teacher. Perhaps it’s time to consider whether the Speaker should be a non-politician.

            • Gezza

               /  May 23, 2018

              It’s always been a crazy idea to have a speaker from a governing party – or any party.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  May 23, 2018

              I agree, There are people who are trained in this sort of thing, why not have one of them ? It’s obvious that Trevor Mallard is not prepared to be impartial. He is appallingly biassed and seemed to be smirking when he took the supplementary questions away from National. I remember a teacher who was unjust, and the resentment caused. No wonder National are angry.

              Mrs Wossname once punished a friend and me for something that we hadn’t done, refusing to listen to our protestations of innocence , and Mr Mallard is doing the same thing on a much more serious scale. He could go down in history as the most biassed Speaker ever.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  May 23, 2018

              National should just walk out each session until he commits to impartiality.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  May 23, 2018

              !!! Like all great ideas, this one is brilliantly simple.

              He is unacceptably biassed in Labour’s favour and hasn’t the sense to be subtle about it.

            • Gezza

               /  May 23, 2018

              until he commits to impartiality
              That will be the day of his funeral.

          • Blazer

             /  May 23, 2018

            just posturing from ..pie popping…Paula.

      • Gezza

         /  May 23, 2018

        “The National Party has issued a letter expressing “serious concerns” over Speaker Trevor Mallard – including over his chairing of the House and his alleged role in “negative stories.”

        The letter, written by Shadow Leader of the House Gerry Brownlee, alleges the Speaker had a role in Newshub’s story about a National Party MP calling this Prime Minister a “stupid little girl”.

        It’s almost tradition to test the Speaker in the House, but a letter demanding a “full explanation” about the Speaker’s “role in pushing this story” is far from common.

        “Promoting stories about events which cannot be verified and which reflect badly on the Opposition is unacceptable from the Speaker,” the letter says.

        The letter says National’s confidence in the Speaker has been “significantly shaken”. Last week, Newshub reported a male National Party MP called the Prime Minister a “stupid little girl” during Question Time the previous week.

        At the time, Mr Mallard stopped proceedings and asked the person who made the remark to stand, withdraw and apologise. No one owned up to the comment, and all 10 male MPs who sit near Simon Bridges later told Newshub they didn’t make the comment and didn’t know who did. Stuff reports Mr Mallard believes he heard a National MP call the Prime Minister a “stupid little girl” but that Mr Bridges believes there is “no evidence” the remark was actually made.

        Mr Brownlee’s letter also accuses the Speaker of arbitrarily taking questions off the Opposition during Question Time.

        Deputy Leader of the Opposition Paula Bennett exited the House during Question Time on Wednesday, voicing “frustration” over the question penalty.”

        More…
        http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/05/national-issues-letter-of-serious-concern-over-speaker-trevor-mallard.html

        https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/newsvideo/national-issues-letter-of-serious-concern-over-speaker-trevor-mallard/vp-AAxFeYg

        • David

           /  May 23, 2018

          Its mainly when Ardern is being questioned, and that is why Bridges is being underestimated.
          When he cant protect her he disrupts the flow with a barb at National, worse speaker since that god awful Wilson woman. Everyone knew he would be a terrible pick he is just too immature and a thug to boot.

          • Gezza

             /  May 23, 2018

            In The House, at Question Time, Bridges is a plodder. He asks Jacinda one question then moves onto a different one in his supplementary, working off a script.

            While Trevor is certainly showing undue bias and too much tolerance of shoddy Ministerial replies (so did Carter) – Ardern can make impassioned speeches and Bridges just plods.

            Mechanically proceeding through his script is why he doesn’t score any hits. He doesn’t know how to.

            • David

               /  May 23, 2018

              I think he could be being careful, his wife has had 3 children he probably knows to tread carefully with a pregnant woman…mine could be somewhat volatile at various stages.
              Its also a terrible look to badger a pregnant woman it could cost National 10% if he went in too hard, will see what happens when Winston takes over and he will need to really lift his game.

            • Gezza

               /  May 23, 2018

              You’re clutching at straws with the “going easy on the pregnant girlie” argument David.

              Everybody – even her most ardent supporters – knows that if she grabbed at the top job knowing she was up the duff & claiming it don’t make no never mind, she can expect someone to give up a seat on the train in Wellington (probably not in Auckland, certainly not if it’s trav’s seat), but she can also expect a kicking if she screws up – & she has to suck it up – or go down as a failure as an inspiration to girls.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  May 23, 2018

              If she thinks that she is an inspiration to girls, she is flattering herself.

              The timing makes it obvious that junior was on the way (only she knows if this was intentional) when she took the job that not long before she had no intention of taking….she said.

              If girls need to be inspired, how did the first ones (like the first women MPs, PMs and doctors, lawyers etc) do it without ‘role models’ ?

            • PartisanZ

               /  May 23, 2018

              … encouragement from men …?

  11. lurcher1948

     /  May 23, 2018

    You can thank Sir Key and national if you cannot stay warm this winter, another reason to take rotten tomatoes along to whats his names public meeting Simon Bridges the tempory leader of the opposition…can you remember when you could afford to live in New Zealand before Key, English and national ruined our country and then resigned to move on to the BIG CORPORATIONS and bigger troughs as their reward for favours granted

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  May 23, 2018

      I can afford to live in NZ now. You do talk nonsense sometimes, Lurch.

      Love to the dogs.

      • lurcher1948

         /  May 23, 2018

        KITTY 50% of New Zealanders don’t try to stay warm.KITTY New Zealand in the OECD we are the MOST EXPENSIVE to stay warm THANKS key and english dont have pleasant long lives.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  May 23, 2018

          Nats would have given you tax cuts. Labour will give you fuel taxes.

          • Gezza

             /  May 23, 2018

            What are the numbers? Has anyone seen the numbers?

            National keep trying to implybecause their tax cuts weren’t implemented tens of thousands of kiwis are getting financially ruined because of tax bracket creep and /or they didn’t get another $10-20 back in tax – while Jacinda keeps suggesting even more tens of thousands of our most poverdy-stricken kiwis are financially better off because they’re getting $400 odd (or sumpthink like that) this year and $700 next year as a spend-it-on-anythink Winter Energy Payment – that Bob Jones and other wealthy superannuants don’t need.

            But I don’t think I ever hear or see any actual numbers from either side.

            I think Jacinda pointed out in QT today that actually National’s tax cuts didn’t come in until July – so nobody had been disadvantaged yet, in any case.

    • PDB

       /  May 23, 2018

      You’ve been sucked into lefty madness Lurch – since the 1980’s Labour govts have easily overseen the largest yearly increases in electricity prices in this country – fact (stats NZ).

  12. Kitty Catkin

     /  May 23, 2018

    An American friend’s son’s school is on lockdown after a threatening letter was found by a staff member. No prizes for guessing what it said.Meanwhile everyone has to stay away, have their end of term events mucked up and watch the news to see what’s going on. Better tnan a massacre, of course.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  May 23, 2018

      Blimey, PDTs, you are sad, pathetic apologies for people. Massacres are never all right.

  13. lurcher1948

     /  May 23, 2018

    GOD IM ANGRY, ,i have just received a reminder email from state insurance to pay $499.44 2 days after paying the bill for my wifes car insurance premium, so they had it…
    , DO YOU LOT KNOW State never say thank you for paying your premium, these ARSEHOLES WANT WANT but NEVER thank you for paying,do you want a receipt lurcher NO arseholes only wanting to know you got my payment “STATE TOSSERS”
    PS i rang up tp see if they got my internet banking payment…dodgy company

    • Gerrit

       /  May 23, 2018

      That is the beauty of living in a capitalist society. You have choices.

      Don’t like the insurance company? Change to another.

      In a socialist republic nirvana you would only have the “state” insurance company, pay the rates they set, the payouts as they see fit, or go without.

      You are blessed to have a choice, exercise the choice.

      • Blazer

         /  May 23, 2018

        quite funny really…seeing as such a great number of Capitalist insurance companies were shown to be insolvent when the GFC and the Christchurch earthquake hit.
        As usual the hardworking taxpayers picked up the tab to bail the useless,hopeless,incompetent bastards…out.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  May 23, 2018

          What was your great number, B? 1 or 2?

          • Blazer

             /  May 23, 2018

            AMI here and AIG(name on the AB’s jersey)just 2 examples that cost…billions.Plenty more,.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  May 23, 2018

              The AIG bailout was in the US, not here, and the US taxpayers made a net profit of US$23B on the deal. More Blazer crap.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  May 23, 2018

            Actually 1 capitalist insurance company was bailed out (AMI) and 1 socialist one (EQC).

            Usual Blazer crap.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  May 23, 2018

              Oh, and just to add to your ignomy, B, AMI was not a capitalist insurance company at all. It was a mutual one, meaning it was owned by its policy holders.

              So even more crap from Blazer.

  14. Zedd

     /  May 23, 2018

    just listening to the budget debate;
    Lab/NZF/Grns talking about how it will improve things in education, healthcare, housing & the run-down public sector etc. for ALL kiwis. It will probably deliver surplus, reduce debt & address the enviro. degradation etc.

    Natl; repeating the same tired mantra; Broken promises, tax/spend, the death of the economy as we know it

    maybe the truth is somewhere between.. ?

    BUT a few things are obvious: (from Natl speeches)
    Natl CAN’T stand being in opposition, after 9 looong years, in POWER
    the tax-cuts that they promised, will likely see many of them & rich mates ‘really struggling’.. oh really
    fearmonging is the ‘name of their game’
    IF you shout, screw up your face & pump your fists (like Key & English) you might convince a few ignorant folks, that ‘you are genuine’
    that the last 9 years were ‘as good as it gets’ & its all downhill from here
    AND.. why haven’t Lab/NZF/Grns ‘fixed everything they promised’ in about 8 months & one budget in Govt. ?????

    All I can say to Natl MPs is ‘stop acting like spoiled children who, finally had their bag of lollies taken away’ GROW UP !

    • PDB

       /  May 23, 2018

      Sounds like the only one ranting is…………you.

      • Gezza

         /  May 23, 2018

        Well, I watch some Question Times and even though Trev’s got himself on the news as the Opposition has now formally complained about his Speakership shutting down the Opposition, they do whine a lot – about everything – even when Labour are implementing their policies. Barking at every parking car was not good enuf for Labour in Opposition – so why is it ok for National?

        • Zedd

           /  May 23, 2018

          thats it gezza,, you would think that Mallard & the new Govt. are setting ‘precedent’ with their actions !

          Carter was totally ‘one-eyed’ & Natl voted down just about every opposition mbrs bill & SOP etc. with the constant mantra ‘that we know best.. about EVERYTHING’

      • Zedd

         /  May 23, 2018

        gee thx pantzi…

  15. lurcher1948

     /  May 23, 2018

    LIVE STREAM very relaxing. some like it hot

  16. Gezza

     /  May 23, 2018

    Good to hear on 1 ewes that tougher rules are being brought in for firearms. It was revealed virtually every application for a firearm is approved. One professional hunter said he comes across idiots who tell him they’ve got a gun licence & then shook his head and said “ffffff”.

    • Gezza

       /  May 23, 2018

      New applicants will have to study and pass a practical test, like for a driver’s licence. About time.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  May 23, 2018

        Like can they point it and pull the trigger? Sounds like another useless bureaucracy in the making.

        • Gezza

           /  May 23, 2018

          I’m not seeing any evidence of much thought or research being put into that reply? 😕

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  May 23, 2018

            The subject didn’t require much.

            • Gezza

               /  May 23, 2018

              Clearly the police spokesperson on 1 ewes thought it did, and so did that hunter, who sounded like he had a few clues – so might have even come from Taranaki.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  May 23, 2018

              Then what did he surmise the practical test would comprise?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  May 23, 2018

              Tells us nothing except the practical “test” will take 2 hrs. Bizarre.

            • Gezza

               /  May 23, 2018

              Well, how do you know it’s bizarre if you don’t know anything about it? Don’t you think you should find out what’s involved before you call it bizarre? Remember it’s tv news reporting on it too. So who knows what the details really are – they’re shit at asking the right questions.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  May 23, 2018

              You got me to listen to a video on the pretext it wouldn’t be an utter waste of time put together by drivelling incompetents for the mentally retarded. It was.

            • Gezza

               /  May 23, 2018

              Of course. That’s what I do. You are putty in my hands, Wilkinson.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  May 23, 2018

              Your hands are a shaking, nicotine stained mess as you peer at banal videos of poncing politicians and platitudinous journalists whenever you are not having slightly more intelligent conversations with your bird life. Let me know what they think of gun licence tests.

            • Gezza

               /  May 23, 2018

              Peforming like a terrier now, as primed 😉

    • PartisanZ

       /  May 23, 2018

      Since, as I understand it, New Zealand changed from licensing every firearm to licensing only firearms owners, making the license more difficult to obtain strikes me rather like PARTIALLY closing the gate long after the horse has bolted …

      Perhaps in one whole generation – 30-odd years – all the old “idiots” will have died off and the more responsible gun owners will have ‘matured’ the gun owning population?

      However, a predictable increase in crime will probably more than compensate for any improvement, meaning a bigger trade in black market firearms and more gun-toting criminals.

      Incredible to think that Rogernomics was marketed and sold on the pretext of these so-called “freedoms” and the equivalence of “a level playing field” …

      The very ‘freedoms’ that would eventually make the ‘free’ society a lot less safe and a lot more polarised … more unequal …

      If you have a fighting-dog breed ‘protecting’ your house it is a living symbol of the same ‘snake oil’ salesman … Sir …

  17. Corky

     /  May 23, 2018

    Question 5: You are relaxing at home drinking a gin and tonic after a day of duck shooting .
    A car pulls up outside. Four bros get out with tyre irons and baseball bats.
    One calls out ” we are going to kill the fucken lot of ya. Nobody steals our drugs..”

    Realising this is a case of mistaken identity, but knowing the situation is beyond verbal resolution, is it acceptable to use your firearm for self defence?

    Candidates answer: Yes, because my family has been threatened with death.

    Instructors notes: While this situation is dire, it must be remembered the possible offenders are not presenting firearms. Therefore to use your weapon in self defence wouldn’t be commensurate with the threat posed. Such actions may result in charges ranging from misuse of a fire arm to manslaughter. The correct course of action is to ring 111 and find the most secure place to hide.

    Course notes: The use of coarse language is not encouraged. The invective used in this question is based on realistic language police encounter everyday.

    Summary: FAIL.

    • PartisanZ

       /  May 23, 2018

      Failed in every possible way … as far as I can see …

      • Corky

         /  May 23, 2018

        What can you see? Where have I failed?