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Donald Trump continues with his campaign spy accusations (with no evidence, prior to an investigation) and his ‘deep state’ conspiracy claims.

Fox News – ‘SPYGATE’: Trump blasts ‘Criminal Deep State’ amid reports of FBI informant spying on campaign

The president’s tweets come after reports that an FBI informant communicated with at least three members of his campaign—Foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos, Trump aide Carter Page and campaign adviser Sam Clovis.

Trump then went on to quote former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who discussed the issue of an FBI informant Tuesday during ABC’s “The View.”

“’Trump should be happy that the FBI was SPYING on his campaign’ No, James Clapper, I am not happy. Spying on a campaign would be illegal, and a scandal to boot!” Trump tweeted.

The Justice Department instructed its inspector general to investigate any alleged “impropriety or political motivation” in the FBI’s investigation into Russian interference and potential collusion with Trump campaign associates during the 2016 presidential election, following demands from Trump.

It should be investigated, but it is highly improper for Trump to be making unsubstantiated assertions before that is done.

CNN: James Clapper did NOT say what Donald Trump keeps saying he said

On Tuesday, James Clapper, the former Director of National Intelligence, went on “The View” — weird, right? — to talk about President Donald Trump and the intelligence community.

During that interview, this exchange happened between Clapper and co-host Joy Behar:
BEHAR: “So I ask you, was the FBI spying on Trump’s campaign?”
CLAPPER: “No, they were not. They were spying on, a term I don’t particularly like, but on what the Russians were doing. Trying to understand were the Russians infiltrating, trying to gain access, trying to gain leverage or influence which is what they do.”
BEHAR: “Well, why doesn’t [Trump] like that? He should be happy.”
CLAPPER: “He should be.”

Seems pretty straightforward, right? Clapper makes crystal clear that the FBI was not spying on the Trump campaign. And he also makes clear that while he doesn’t like the word “spying” — because we are talking about the use of a confidential source — that, to the extent there was any information gathering happening in conversations between the FBI’s informant and members of the Trump campaign, it was entirely designed to shed light on Russian meddling efforts related to the 2016 election.

In the hands of Trump, however, Clapper’s words have become anything but straightforward.

Early Wednesday morning, Trump tweeted this about the Clapper interview:

“‘Trump should be happy that the FBI was SPYING on his campaign’ No, James Clapper, I am not happy. Spying on a campaign would be illegal, and a scandal to boot!”

Then, answering reporters’ question on Wednesday afternoon, Trump said this:

“I mean if you look at Clapper … he sort of admitted that they had spies in the campaign yesterday inadvertently. I hope it’s not true, but it looks like it is.”

NO. HE. DIDN’T.

Clapper did the exact opposite of what Trump is saying he did.

But this is classic Trump, making things up and making the story about himself. It will play well to his base, but shouldn’t affect legal processes and investigations.

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  2. Gezza

     /  May 24, 2018

    Instead of draining the swamp Trump has opened his own sewer.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  May 24, 2018

      Note that Ukraine first leaked documents to support Hillary then panicked when they found they’d backed the loser. This swamp pre-dated Trump.

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      • Gezza

         /  May 24, 2018

        You don’t drain a swamp by pouring sewage into it.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  May 24, 2018

          Trump had to open the sewer to discover what Hillary had left there.

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        • Gezza

           /  May 24, 2018

          Sorry. I had to go out & sign some legal papers for ma. I hope someone else took some responsibility for keeping Sir Alan under control.

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  3. MaureenW

     /  May 24, 2018

    So the FBI was so busy installing “confidential human sources” into the Trump campaign to monitor for Russian infiltration, the Russians infiltrated Hillary’s campaign stealing the emails and passing to Wikileaks, allowing Trump to win. 😂😂

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  4. Joe Bloggs

     /  May 24, 2018

    In trumpworld, America’s intelligence and law enforcement agencies are apparently supposed to ignore reports of foreign efforts to influence elections. In trumpworld, the ever-growing mountain of evidence that the trump family and its retainers were having highly unusual contacts with Russians, Saudis and Emiratis is simply brushed aside with the mantras “no collusion” and “witch hunt.”

    In trumpworld, reasoning works backwards. Rather than examining evidence to determine whether anyone in trump’s sphere did wrong, we must assume that trump and all around him are blameless, and therefore we must conclude that anyone who inquires into the possibility that wrong was done must be a member of the nefarious deep state. In trumpworld, to oppose, or even to question, trump is to be a traitor.

    But we know that the FBI conducted investigations of both presidential candidates and behaved in a way that hurt one candidate (clinton) by publicly smearing her reputation without actually charging her with a crime, while helping the other candidate (trump) by keeping its investigation of him completely secret.

    Whatever the FBI may have discovered about trump during 2016, it kept entirely secret. As did the Obama appointees who ran the Justice Department. And therefore, nothing the FBI learned damaged the trump campaign.

    In the real world, using normal logic, we’d look at the evidence of the FBI’s behavior and conclude one of two things: Either the FBI consciously set out to hurt clinton and help trump, or (and this is Comey’s story) it was not trying to help or hurt either candidate, but made errors that happened to help trump and hurt clinton.

    Applying realworld logic trump’s latest conspiracy theory about the FBI and the DoJ is vicious trolling stalking-horse nonsense.

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    • MaureenW

       /  May 24, 2018

      Except Trump hasn’t been accused of any crime. The reason the FBI kept secret what it discovered about Trump in 2016 was because they found nothing. Hence, they installed Confidential Human Sources, to plant information, and other sources to extract it. Stefan Halper /Joseph Mifsud performed this function and Alexander Downer the pisshead Aussie Diplomat to try and give it some credibility.

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      • Joe Bloggs

         /  May 24, 2018

        Some home truths:

        – Halper did not introduce Papadopoulos to Timofeev. Mifsud introduced Papadopoulos to Timofeev.
        – Halper did not introduce Papadopoulos to Mifsud. Mifsud introduced himself to Papadopoulos.
        – Halper did not tell Papadopoulos that Russia had Clinton emails. Mifsud told Papadopoulos that Russia had Clinton emails.
        – Halper did not delete Papadopoulos’ Facebook account nor any of Papadopoulos’ emails to and from Timofeev. Papadopoulos deleted his Facebook account and some of his emails to and from Timofeev.
        – Halper didn’t induce either Papadopolous or Page to do anything they concealed, regretted or complained about.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  May 24, 2018

      Get with the script, Joe. The FBI wasn’t spying on Trump, they were saving him from the Russians.

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      • Joe Bloggs

         /  May 24, 2018

        What the right is outraged about:
        – the FBI investigation into the infiltration of trump’s campaign by Russian operatives

        What the right is not outraged about:
        – Russian academics paying carter page to speak in Moscow
        – A pro-Russian Syrian group paying don jr to speak in Paris
        – Multiple Russian banks floating massive amounts of support to jared
        – Russia’s RT paying flynn to appear at an event with Putin
        – Turkish pass-throughs paying flynn to make a movie
        – Saudi, Israeli, and Emirati sources offering campaign assistance
        – Oleg Deripaska offering to forgive manafort’s $20 million debt for updates on the trump campaign
        – Russians offering dirt on Hillary to get a meeting with trump’s campaign manager, son, and son-in-law

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  May 24, 2018

          Funny how FBI/CIA’s mission to protect Trump didn’t involve telling him any of this, isn’t it?

          Just wallow in your b.s. Joe.

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          • Joe Bloggs

             /  May 24, 2018

            … that’s not what the beautiful people say….

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    • David

       /  May 24, 2018

      The idea Trump is a ‘Russian asset’ is even funnier than Trump tweeting WITCHHUNT!, but quite quite as funny as the fact you believe it.

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  5. Zedd

     /  May 24, 2018

    His circle of ‘YES-men’ must be getting smaller & smaller 😀

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  May 24, 2018

      Hillary’s lot in the swamp certainly is. Been hauled out shaking and banished to CNN.

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      • Zedd

         /  May 24, 2018

        yes.. but Hilary is ‘yesterday news’ (politically).. Mr T is still going; on & on & on & on ad nauseum..
        **worse than the comments in here 😀

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  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  May 24, 2018

    Trump looks like having the last laugh at the ballot box. Reuters have Republicans ahead:

    http://polling.reuters.com/#!response/TM1212Y17/type/smallest/filters/PD1:1/dates/20180101-20180517/collapsed/true

    And Democrats going down the gurgler:
    https://amgreatness.com/2018/05/23/from-blue-wave-to-blue-trickle-to-blue-gurgle/

    Oh dear. How sad, Joe.

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  7. Gezza

     /  May 24, 2018

    Alajz tv reports that Mike Pence has said North Korea could end up like Libya if it doesn’t do what the US demands. WTF?

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  May 24, 2018

      There have been reports Kim’s neck is on the line with a starving population who are now accessing international realities. Trump told him he could end up like Gadaffi (or Mussolini) if he doesn’t open up.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  May 24, 2018

        The ructions around the Singapore meeting smell like a power struggle in NK.

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    • David

       /  May 24, 2018

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  8. sorethumb

     /  May 24, 2018

    Down with Trump!

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  May 24, 2018

      At last some common sense. There’s hope for you yet, sorethumb

      Reply

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