Irish vote on abortion

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  1. Griff

     /  May 26, 2018

    Ireland has voted by a landslide to lift the ban on abortion that had been enshrined in its constitution for three decades, the first exit polls from a historic referendum suggest.

    If confirmed at Saturday’s count, the shock result – three years after Ireland became the first country in the world to approve same-sex marriage by a popular vote – would underline the speed and scale of change in a country that is still majority Catholic.

    Exit polls from the Irish Times and the national broadcaster RTÉ showed a clear two-thirds of the country supported change. Dublin, as expected, had voted overwhelmingly to end the abortion ban, but so too did rural areas that anti-abortion activists had counted on to form a bulwark of conservative support for the restrictive status quo.

    The Irish Times/Ipsos MRBI poll late on Friday suggested a 68% to 32% vote in favour of yes. The RTE exit poll of 3,000 voters suggested that 69.4% voted yes in the referendum compared to 30.6% who said no.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/25/ireland-votes-to-relax-abortion-laws

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    • Gezza

       /  May 26, 2018

      Good to see the Catholic Church get a resounding fingers from the populati at last.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  May 26, 2018

        Pretty disgraceful here that a Labour Government chose a Catholic judge to run its Royal Commission on Contraception and Abortion and the subsequent National Government passed an abortion law drafted by two of its Catholic MPs.

        We’ll see if Jacinda does more than lip service to making amends.

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        • Gezza

           /  May 26, 2018

          I wouldn’t bet on it. She probably won’t be in the frame of mind to be pushing for any change to abortion laws.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  May 26, 2018

            As abortion is to all intents and purposes on demand here, I don’t see why people are making a hoohah about it. Killing babies is legal and has been for many years.

            How could anyone vote for abortion with their own baby beside them ?

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  May 26, 2018

              Probably by realising they were voting for choice, not abortion.

  2. Corky

     /  May 26, 2018

    Welcome to the real world, Ireland. With this decision will come both pain and relief.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  May 26, 2018

      How profound that is not.

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      • Corky

         /  May 27, 2018

        I was thinking of mothers who will live with bitter disappointment and mental illness because of their decision to have an abortion. An abortion option previously not available. Of course they now have the freedom to choose such mental conditions..

        Conversley, for other women abortion will be a godsend as a quick contraceptive option and as a means to terminate a baby that isn’t wanted.

        I find nothing profound with this. Maybe you are confused again?

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  May 27, 2018

          Mental illness will certainly have other causes.

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          • Corky

             /  May 27, 2018

            No doubt, Alan. My specific comments relate to the more than a few women who for a variety of reasons will later become mental unstable when the impact of what they have done becomes apparent.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  May 27, 2018

              Mentally unstable men seem a far greater risk to women than allowing them to choose if snd when to have a baby.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  May 27, 2018

          If I were you, I wouldn’t start on the personal abusw again . This was what saw you banned from YNZ the last time,

          You were stating the obvious as if it was an original thought, which is why I said that it was NOT profound, not that it WAS profound.

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  3. Zedd

     /  May 26, 2018

    Im just glad to see that Ireland will have a BINDING referendum on this.. maybe something NZ should listen to on ‘our upcoming one’ !!

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    • Zedd

       /  May 26, 2018

      also; good to see that RCC did not sway the public with; fear-mongering, eternal damnation etc. as they have in the past

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  May 26, 2018

        Too many clerics trying to dodge eternal damnation themselves.

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  4. Women’s choice and all consequences theirs…they have to live with their decision either way.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  May 26, 2018

      Almost all – except for maintenance obligations on the father when identified.

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    • Gezza

       /  May 26, 2018

      Lovely item on 1ewes just now about all the interest there is expected to be in Jacinda’s baby when it is born & how Jacinda and the news media will probably handle how much it will feature vs what privacy will probably be granted to them. Lots of vid clips of our “most famous baby bump’. Comparisons with how William & Kate have managed this issue. Jacinda felt that she and Clarke will handle it and that New Zealanders will help them handle it.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  May 26, 2018

        Hardly in the same league, the Cambridge’s baby is going to be King of England one day. What a conceited comparison to make, as if there’s any comparison between the two. Who on earth do they think that they are ? Get real, Clarke and Jacinda.

        Why the hell should New Zealanders help them to handle it ? We have heard so much about how well Ms Ardern will be able to do both things, let her handle it herself.

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        • Gezza

           /  May 26, 2018

          She didn’t make the comparison: the reporter on 1ewes did. I think Jacinda just answered some questions – hardly said anything – a microsecond sound-bite or two. Most of the comment in the item was from some gay-sounding bloke in a babywear shop, and a blonde sheila from some PR company – who seemed to think they were experts on such matters.

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        • Fight4NZ

           /  May 27, 2018

          How could anyone vote for abortion with their own baby beside them ?
          Vs
          Why the hell should New Zealanders help them to handle it ?
          Are you not sure whether you want go with milk and honey schmalz or hardline bitter?

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  May 27, 2018

            Being pro-life is hardly milk and honey schmaltz; have you ever seen a dead baby ? I have. Do you know what a miscarried baby looks like ? I do. This woman seemed to see no contradiction between letting her own baby live and voting to let others be killed. Wake up, abortion is not like an operation for tonsils.

            Saying that NZ will help Ardern and Gayford to handle being parents is absurd as well as being sentimentalism.They decided to have the baby when they did, let them handle it. She proclaimed that she could easily be PM and mother, let her prove it. How, precisely. are the rest of us going to help them to handle it ? It’s nonsense. It sounds pretty, but it means nothing.

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