Twyford rules out meth house apology, then apologises

Phil Twyford was criticised yesterday for failing to be apologetic over the meth house debacle, but his seems to have changed is approach overnight.

RNZ: Twyford rules out apology over meth tests

Phil Twyford has ruled out any compensation or an apology to the victims despite having relentlessly championed their cause when he was in opposition.

When Mr Twyford became housing minister last year he immediately asked the country’s top scientist to review the country’s meth contamination standards.

Sir Peter Gluckman’s report was released this week – and revealed the country has been gripped by a moral panic – and meth residue posed no risk to health at all.

Mr Twyford said hundreds of tenants were needlessly evicted by Housing New Zealand and it wasted more than $100 million on unnecessary decontamination.

His colleague, Justice Minister Andrew Little, last night said an apology was warranted.

“If Housing New Zealand or any landlord has kicked out a tenant on the basis of testing that we now know to be bogus … and has totally uprooted an innocent person’s life then at the very least they are owed an apology,” Mr Little said.

Mr Twyford would not be interviewed today, but in a statement said there would be no apology or compensation from the government.

But this morning:

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22 Comments

  1. alloytoo

     /  June 1, 2018

    Compensation?

    Can we determine if the tenants were the ones who contaminated the house in the first place?

    And then say no in general.

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  2. NOEL

     /  June 1, 2018

    Needlessly evicted. They breached the tenancy agreement.on a taxpayer provided rental property..

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  3. NOEL

     /  June 1, 2018

    Aw geez. They had the opportunity to prove they were not responsible for meth use at the Tenancy Tribunal.

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    • phantom snowflake

       /  June 1, 2018

      Huh? Guilty until proven innocent?? There’s no way for affected Housing New Zealand tenants to ‘prove a negative.’ There are plenty of cases where the existing tenant was assumed to be responsible for meth contamination even though the property had not been tested prior to their tenancy.

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      • alloytoo

         /  June 1, 2018

        Could have provided blood tests to prove the negative.

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        • phantom snowflake

           /  June 1, 2018

          Utterly absurd. How is one negative test for methamphetamine (cleared from the body within 48 hours) proof that nobody had smoked meth in the house? Housing New Zealand would never have reversed an eviction based on a blood test!!

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  4. Zedd

     /  June 1, 2018

    there should be a Govt. enquiry into this issue.. those responsible (prev. Govt.) for apparent waste of >$100mil on ‘decontamination’ costs should be held accountable !

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  June 1, 2018

      They were acting on what was internationally accepted at the time.They had little choice.

      A local man who gave his rental house a good scrub and repaint after meths using or making tenants, I forget which now, must feel vindicated.

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      • Zedd

         /  June 1, 2018

        @kck
        Gluckman said it was well below an Intl standard.. eff. ZERO-tolerance to the tiniest traces.. PANIC/hysteria.. ‘get the Haz-mat suits on.. everones life is at risk’ (B-S)

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  June 1, 2018

          I meant at the time.

          Why didn’t the silly bugger say something if he knew ? Smug git. There’s nothing more irritating than someone who knew all the time and said nothing.

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          • Zedd

             /  June 1, 2018

            he did say on TV3 yesterday.. that ‘it was not on the previous Govt./PMs agenda’.. as with other ‘drug issues’ they seems to have only supported ‘status quo’ (zero-tolerance ?)

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  June 1, 2018

              So he just did nothing, the bloody fool.

              I wonder if he’s in fact being wise after the event. Anyone could say ‘I could have told them that !!!’

            • Zedd

               /  June 2, 2018

              ‘So he just did nothing, the bloody fool.’ sez kitty

              methinks he just did as he was told.. by a Govt. that had a different agenda; Zero-tolerance & maintain the Drug War/Status quo.. regardless of the science/evidence that shows clearly it is a FAILED policy.. just look at countries like: Canada, USA states, much of EU, Aust states, Israel, Uruguay, Portugal etc. that are NOW moving away from this B-S to a more rational approach (not just cannabis, all drugs should be on ‘a level playing field’) addiction, use & treating the REAL harms

    • PDB

       /  June 1, 2018

      You would have been the first moaning about putting poor people’s health at risk if National had overruled the advice they were getting from HNZ and the like.

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  5. Blazer

     /  June 1, 2018

    Twyford realised his response was wrong and is now making things…right.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  June 1, 2018

      No, he’s realised that he missed a chance to put the boot into National and quickly reclaimed it.

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      • PartisanZ

         /  June 1, 2018

        I agree with “an apology on behalf of the previous government” … and support an inquiry and the perps being held accountable … and compensation …

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  June 1, 2018

          Forget it. Tracing them would be more trouble than it would be worth and getting the money out of them would be impossible.

          One can’t apologise on someone else’s behalf.

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  6. Griff

     /  June 1, 2018

    National Housing spokeswoman Judith Collins told The AM Show on Friday they had no idea the meth-testing industry was bogus.

    “We didn’t know. I spoke to [then-Minister of Social Housing] Paula Bennett about it, and she’s absolutely adamant she didn’t know. She got advice from the Housing NZ and also the Ministry of Health, and apparently Standards NZ were involved. So it’s the first time that we knew.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/05/national-had-no-idea-meth-guidelines-were-wrong-judith-collins.html
    Yip based on feelz from Collins the Conservative.
    FFS the level they were testing for would not get you slightly high if you licked an entire kilometer of wall from floor to 1 meter up.
    Beni bashing bullshite from the Conservative right.
    Five minutes on Dr google to find out dosage and some simple fucken math yet Collins and co cost us $100,000,000 of wasted tax money because they did not even bother to check the rational behind the panic.
    Conservatives like idiotic knee jerk policy’s that cause more harm than good.
    So yep they would support the persons responsible for one hundred million being totally wasted because feelz not facts..
    “We did not know” is not an excuse its a cop out in this day with so much information a mere google away.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  June 1, 2018

      The Standards Institute needs a big kick up the arse. Their job to test standards rationally against evidence.

      Reply

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