New Conservative Party launched

The Conservative Party was Colin Craig’s party. It was seriously damaged when Craig hit problems with ex-staff and multiple defamation actions, and Craig dropped his political ambitions.

The party has been repackaged and relaunched:


NEW CONSERVATIVE – BUILDING THE RIGHT BRIDGES

“New Zealand needs a viable coalition option before the 2020 election,” says Leader Leighton Baker at the launch of New Conservative.

Immediately following the 2017 election result, the impact of MMP politics and coalition governments highlighted the vulnerability for the major parties. The 1 News Colmar Brunton poll of 28 May 2018 again raised this question for the National Party.

“We recognise the importance to New Zealand of presenting real options for voters,” observes Baker.

“With several months to evaluate the political landscape, we appreciated how important the Conservative Party was for New Zealand, but we owed it to our members to build on our foundation with new energy and so New Conservative was born,” says Baker.

Established only six weeks before the 2011 election, the Conservative Party achieved over 2% and was well on track for the 5% threshold for the 2014 election before the well reported public fall out for the then party leader Colin Craig, who resigned from the party in 2016, and a rebuilding process began.

“Time worked against us for the 2017 election,” recalls Baker, “but we could not ignore the members who remain committed to the core values of the party.”

With sound policy, and a leadership with extensive experience in the areas that present most challenge for New Zealand, there is fertile ground for New Conservative.

“Our re-launch as New Conservative retains our connection to the solid foundation of our party values while allowing us to disconnect from a history that has nothing to do with who we are,” concludes Baker.


From their website:

WE STAND FOR

A belief in loyalty to a sovereign and united New Zealand, the supremacy of democratic parliamentary institutions and the rule of law.

A belief in the institutions of Parliament and the right of citizens to direct government by the democratic process including binding citizens initiated referenda.

A belief in the equality of all New Zealanders and that all citizens, regardless of race, gender or religion, have equal rights and privileges.

A belief in a decent society that values life, individual privacy, the freedom of the individual (including freedom of speech, conscience, faith and assembly), the right to defend one’s self and property and the importance of family.

A belief that it is the responsibility of individuals to provide for themselves, their families and their dependents, while recognizing that government must respond to those who require assistance and compassion.

It will be difficult for the New Conservatives to get media attention let alone anywhere near sufficient support to look like a viable option.

Via email:

On a wild and rainy Monday we managed to gather around 50 members and supporters for the launch of our new name, New Conservative.

It was an excellent time enjoyed by all and we left inspired that hope remains and that we are the Party that focuses on fixing the causes of the challenges we face as a nation, rather than throwing money or legislation at the problems.

The whole meeting was shown on Facebook Live and you can view the just over one hour long session here. After welcome and introductions, Elliot Ikilei spoke, followed by Leighton Baker.

The 5% threshold hasn’t been beaten by any new party yet under MMP. Craig’s millions and his quirkiness that attracted media coverage was not enough.

However there could be an opportunity in a changing party environment – voters may react against the move towards a virtual two party contest.

Leave a comment

67 Comments

  1. Griff

     /  June 6, 2018

    Any bets on how long this one last before controversy collapses it in a pile of hypocrisy?
    We have had kiddy fiddling because a twelve year old was gagging for it and goey love poems by a married man to a staff member .
    Wonder what it will be this time?

    Reply
    • Corky

       /  June 6, 2018

      A jaundiced view their Griff. Are you a socialist?

      Reply
      • Griff

         /  June 6, 2018

        No Corky I am a Liberal.
        Liberal in the European idiom not the Yankee distortion.
        https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Political_spectrum#Liberalism

        As to Conservative.
        Graham and Colon are shining examples .

        Reply
        • Corky

           /  June 6, 2018

          ”Graham and Colin are shining examples .”

          Personally, I wouldn’t go there. The Conservatives problem was they had no experience with running damage control.

          Conversely, Labour ( National included) indiscretions, either don’t see the light of day, or are shut down.

          Always open the glasshouse pane before throwing stones.

          Reply
        • Grimm

           /  June 6, 2018

          Except that your history on here is basically ad nauseum support of a socialist government in it’s efforts to control our lives.

          Reply
          • Griff

             /  June 6, 2018

            ROFL
            Griff was an ACT member for decades and still has a collection of crissy cards from Roger D.
            The opposite of Conservative is Liberal not Socialist.
            Keep fooling your self .

            Reply
            • Grimm

               /  June 6, 2018

              Some seriously contradictory narratives going on. Getting hard to keep your story straight?

            • Griff

               /  June 6, 2018

              Grimm confusion about the difference between politics and science is your problem . You think because I agree with science I must be a lefty.

              I support using reality to drive policy not feelz .
              Science is our best understanding reality.

              Conservative Feelz P is bad! Cost our country hundreds of millions of dollars in wasted effort to remove a level of contamination that had no measurable effect on anyone. We are still wasting millions on persecution of those who use a relatively harmless drug cannabis yet allow far more destructive drug alcohol to be freely available because conservation feelz.

              Policy based on science not feelz means I oppose conservatives due to their propensity to base their views on what they feel rather than facts.
              That does not mean I support the extremes found on the left .

            • PDB

               /  June 6, 2018

              I see you ‘Feelz’ that the new conservative party will fall over because the ‘conservative party’ had some issues with leadership figures that ain’t in this party….doesn’t sound very ‘fact based’ to me Griff.

              Griff: “Griff was an ACT member for decades and still has a collection of crissy cards from Roger D.”

              Griff refers to himself in the third person……..like Trump. No surprise there.

            • Griff

               /  June 6, 2018

              Evidence
              Two previous party’s pushing Conservative policy foundered on rampant hypocrisy.
              The personal family values they upheld included having sex with a 5 year old and sending goey love poems to staff.
              Twice the family values they wanted to push on us were not what they did behind closed doors.
              Wanna bet it will not happen again ?
              Any conservation party is doomed to be at most a fringe also ran party because of the previous actions of so called conservatives.

              By the way “Griff” is a figment of my imagination.
              It is perfectly acceptable for me to refer to Griff in the third person as Griff does not exist as an actual identity except as the name given for comments posted on a few blogs….

            • PDB

               /  June 6, 2018

              Seem a bit ‘defensive’ there ‘Griff’ (may I call you that even though it isn’t your real name?).

              For a guy who says he backs everything based on best ‘evidence’ you appear to be making shit up to match your preconceived ideas of the moral behaviours of conservatives in general.

              Back to the topic at hand I don’t have much time for the conservative party but there is obviously a fairly solid base for them if even Colin Craig could get around 4% of the party vote.

            • Grimm

               /  June 6, 2018

              It’s interesting how all of your fact-based positions require a great deal of vitriol, slurs, rolling on the floor and weapons grade obnoxiousness to support them.

            • PDB

               /  June 6, 2018

              Griff obviously doesn’t believe in ‘letting the facts speak for themselves’. Abusing other posters on here is how he gets his true “Feelz’ out.

            • Gezza

               /  June 6, 2018

              My favourite character for referring to himself in the 3rd person will always be The Fonz. Until he jumped the shark.

            • PDB

               /  June 6, 2018

              I thought it would be Simon Bridges…

            • Gezza

               /  June 6, 2018

              Aw come on. No way Simon’s ever gonna have The Fonz’s cool. 😎

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  June 6, 2018

              Graham Capill really didn’t seem to see anything wrong with putting a finger in the vaginas of 11 year old girls, because in his view that wasn’t rape.

              Even it wasn’t legally, and I am certain that it was, it was morally and would have been almost as traumatic. What’s the betting that those girls will always feel dirty about sex ?

            • Griff

               /  June 6, 2018

              Indecent assault of an eight year old Christchurch girl over several occasions in 2001 and 2002
              Further convictions of sexual violation of three more young girls, plus rape of an girl under 12, from 1990 to 2001
              https://offenders.sst.org.nz/offender/30139/
              He also claimed the sex with the twelve year old was consensual in an email sent after his conviction.

              He comes under the heading things that could usefully use a bullet .

  2. Corky

     /  June 6, 2018

    They have little chance without Colins money. Besides, some of their policies are anti -New Zealand: Look at this rubbish for an example:

    ” A belief in the equality of all New Zealanders and that all citizens, regardless of race, gender or religion, have equal rights and privileges.”

    I’m afraid that’ll go down like a lead balloon in Maoridom and with the SJW brigade.

    Reply
    • Patzcuaro

       /  June 6, 2018

      I don’t think that Maori and SJWs are the target market. More like white and provincial NZ.

      Reply
      • PartisanZ

         /  June 7, 2018

        Or maybe white privileged and provincial white privileged NZ …?

        Reply
  3. George

     /  June 6, 2018

    1) Change the name.
    2) Stay away from the zealous
    3) Really really work on what you’re going to actually do
    4) Do not say you’ll do A when you know A isn’t possible

    Reply
  4. phantom snowflake

     /  June 6, 2018

    This was Martyn Bradbury a few weeks back:
    The new plan is for a sitting National MP in a safe National Party electorate to suddenly resign from the Party and stand for a new Conservative branded political party and get a free run in that electorate.
    Keep an eye on Mark Mitchell.

    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2018/05/08/real-reason-why-national-are-considering-cutting-act-off/
    Obviously Bradbury has a poor strike rate with his predictions; still, is it possible he could get one right here??

    Reply
    • Blazer

       /  June 6, 2018

      Mitchell would be the perfect candidate,but sees himself as a big hope to replace…’squeaky’.

      Reply
      • Send in Simeon brown….. yuck

        Reply
        • Zedd

           /  June 6, 2018

          oh dear… :/

          Reply
        • Zedd

           /  June 6, 2018

          btw; Shane ; any news/rumblings from HSC on med-use bill ?

          Reply
        • phantom snowflake

           /  June 6, 2018

          How about Simon O’Connor: Catholic, opposed same-sex marriage, opposed assisted suicide and euthanasia, opposed raising the drinking age.

          Reply
          • PartisanZ

             /  June 7, 2018

            There are two Matts in National who might fit the bill too, Matt King and Matt Doocey …

            Doocey in Waimakariri seems a strong possibility. He won the electorate in 2017 with an increased majority (57.6%) achieving twice the number of his nearest rival Dan Rosewarne for Labour (30.23%) …

            Reply
    • PDB

       /  June 6, 2018

      What Bradbury is saying has been put about for some while and makes perfect sense with the margins so small at the moment as to who is in government, especially if the Maori party get back in next election (and also eat into some of Labour’s party vote) and NZL First fall over and miss the cut as looks likely with Winston burning his house down on the way out.

      Reply
  5. Zedd

     /  June 6, 2018

    I thought Natl are NZ Conservatives.. in everything but name.. ‘TORIES’
    Is this party really anything different ?
    are they to the right or left of Natl ??
    If neither then whats their ‘claim to fame’ going to be ???

    having said all that, its always good to see a challenge to the ‘one-party of the right’ (no ones taking Act seriously anymore.. ) 😀

    Reply
    • phantom snowflake

       /  June 6, 2018

      Basically it’s likely to be a ‘Social Conservative’ party, i.e. supporting and promoting socially conservative views on subjects such as abortion, gay marriage, smacking children, death penalty, euthanasia to name a few. That would give them a point of difference from National as the social conservatives (including Simon Bridges) are probably now in the minority in the National caucus. Pretty much a party for Christian extremists and talkback callers.

      Reply
      • Zedd

         /  June 6, 2018

        now that Natl appear to be moving more toward the ‘centre’.. there could well be a increasing gap on the far-right ?
        come on down Judith.. time to stand up & be counted !!

        Reply
      • PDB

         /  June 6, 2018

        Some of the conservative support would come from ex-NZL First supporters as well. If they can somehow make inroads into the pacific island population they would also pick up some traditional Labour votes.

        Zedd: “come on down Judith.. time to stand up & be counted”

        Be careful what you wish for – she’d be one person to boost such a party and is pretty well regarded in South Auckland where she could also easily dent some of Labour’s vote as I mention above.

        Reply
        • Zedd

           /  June 6, 2018

          now whose making things up ? :/

          Reply
          • PDB

             /  June 6, 2018

            If you have some alternative facts do share…

            You obviously have no idea if you think Collins doesn’t have a very good standing in the South Auckland community, especially amongst the pacific islander population.

            Reply
            • phantom snowflake

               /  June 6, 2018

              I’m sure you’re right regarding a support base being built which includes ex NZ First voters and conservative/religious Pacific Islanders. However 5% is a long way off. It’s a shame then that your side didn’t have the foresight to lower the threshold, and I seem to recall that your champion Judith Collins was involved with this blunder.

            • PDB

               /  June 6, 2018

              You are the wrong assumption master snowflake – Collins isn’t someone I particularly follow BUT she does have her support base.

              Not sure why you are talking 5% if a sitting electorate MP (or two) joins the New Conservatives and keeps their electorate seat/s – which is the whole point of parachuting a National MP into the party in the first place. Get a higher enough % (even if not to 5%) and they will get more MPs as well.

            • phantom snowflake

               /  June 6, 2018

              Yes I wasn’t clear. I was thinking also of the other possible scenario where the New Conservatives were not ‘gifted’ a seat. In which case the party is going to need to find some high-profile spokespersons in order to gain some traction.

            • PDB

               /  June 6, 2018

              Without a guaranteed electorate seat they are doomed to fail unless they find a well respected/popular/well-known leader.

          • Blazer

             /  June 6, 2018

            Crusher Collins has a Samoan… husband.

            Reply
        • PartisanZ

           /  June 7, 2018

          @PDB – “Some of the conservative support would come from ex-NZL First supporters as well …”

          Yes, I estimate around 3% of NZFirst voters are now completely disillusioned ‘Right Brigade’ legion (or minions) in search of a Commander to lead the next charge …

          Leighton Baker is not that leader …

          Reply
  6. High Flying Duck

     /  June 6, 2018

    I’m more with Griff on this one. Social conservatism is a fringe position these days and tends to hold the right back. It is invariably riven with hypocrites who preach one thing and practice another.
    ACT in its prime years early on had the right idea. Socially liberal and economically focused on self determination.
    It is a re-invention of this world view that is needed rather than the anti-same sex marriage, abortion hating views that want the state out of your wallet but in your bedroom.
    This is one reason Bridges is not connecting. He comes across as an uptight prude on social issues.

    Reply
    • PDB

       /  June 6, 2018

      A few thoughts;

      *There is room for a conservative party as shown by Craig – even one safe electorate seat could get them a few MP’s. Should have got a totally new name though.
      *I agree that hard core conservatives could hold National back but that then supports the need for them to have their own party rather than fill the National party up.
      *Bridges won’t win the next election unless the govt totally falls over rather than half does. I don’t think he is ‘leader material’ and would make little headway even if he was leading the new Conservative party. The National party vote is holding as if waiting for a more exciting leader to be appointed.

      Reply
      • Gezza

         /  June 6, 2018

        Yup can’t see Simon lasting the distance until the next election. Dunno exactly what it is but most likely that he just seems such a blimmin robott – or permanently constipated.

        Reply
        • PDB

           /  June 6, 2018

          For me it is the fact he always seems so defensive during media interviews in everything he says (which according to people that know him well isn’t what he’s like when speaking elsewhere). It’s as if he takes personal offense at even being asked a question.

          Reply
          • Gezza

             /  June 6, 2018

            Possibly a habit he got into dealing with ratbags in the dock & their defence lawyers? o_O

            Reply
          • High Flying Duck

             /  June 6, 2018

            He also contradicts himself and his previous positions on a regular basis. You can’t trust what he says.

            Reply
            • Gezza

               /  June 6, 2018

              He would probably agree with you in some ways and in others, not.

      • High Flying Duck

         /  June 6, 2018

        I should have clarified – a conservative party definitely has a chance to get into parliament,. Especially if they can get the Tamaki types on board and mop up sensible sentencing. But they would be the loony fringe inside the tent as much as the Greens are.

        A good article on why a contrived party would be pushing it uphill:

        https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/30-05-2018/simon-bridges-needs-to-make-friends-but-voters-know-bullshit-when-they-smell-it/

        Reply
        • worse than the greens, whos policies on things like drugs are at least evidence based, as opposed to what the sky daddy told them was a sin…..

          Reply
  7. High Flying Duck

     /  June 6, 2018

    Perhaps I need to rethink my views on conservatism…

    Reply
    • Gezza

       /  June 6, 2018

      They’ve certainly got a lot more liberal than they used to be about moral questions.

      Reply
      • Kitty Catkin

         /  June 6, 2018

        I can’t believe that that is genuine and an Anglican church, Please, no.

        Reply
        • Kitty Catkin

           /  June 6, 2018

          It’s Australian.

          They seem not to have realised that it would come across as a double entendre.

          Reply
          • Gezza

             /  June 6, 2018

            If you think about what nonsense it is they believe you can understand that they’re possibly not all that bright. 😕

            Reply
            • Kitty Catkin

               /  June 6, 2018

              What has HAPPENED to the Anglicans ? It’s too cringe-making,

            • Gezza

               /  June 6, 2018

              Hopefully agnosticism is creeping in & taking over & it’s mainly becoming a historical society & social group.

            • Corky

               /  June 6, 2018

              ”What has HAPPENED to the Anglicans ?”

              The Anglican Church basically doesn’t exist. It’s so fractured and racist and PC that even a Satanist could join and demand his own Parish like Maori have.

  8. Alan Wilkinson

     /  June 6, 2018

    The principles seem unexceptional. Be interesting to see what policies derive from them and what personalities promote those.

    Reply
  9. sorethumb

     /  June 7, 2018

    One of those two parties in Italy got 25% of the vote even without hoardings plus no candidate was allowed to speak to reporters. Mind you Italy has a migrant crisis.
    If a party can tap into something it will get support . You can’t bring the wrong friends along though, too often a cause is linked to a position on global warming, abortion or guns in the US.
    I’m just up for a cup of tea. On RNZ is Culture Frontline which is (like Voices) a pro open borders program. It makes me think that the public sphere (broadcasting) is like a house “owned” by a group who pursue their own interests. Making people concious of media hegemony plus political bipartisonship may have support. Its time to remind them they are here to follow orders not lead?

    Reply
    • PartisanZ

       /  June 7, 2018

      No … errr … Yes …. ummm ….

      Hopefully the Left-Wing media can be forced to follow orders rather than lead before the next elections … so that they offer no critique of the Neo-Conservative Party …?

      Reply
  10. Tipene

     /  June 7, 2018

    I see Chuck Bird was skulking away in the background.

    Forever on the fringes, but just doesn’t have the nads to get in on the fight.

    Reply
  1. New Conservative Party launched — Your NZ – NZ Conservative Coalition

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

w

Connecting to %s