Neve Te Aroha Ardern Gayford

To those who are interested, Neve Te Aroha Ardern Gayford is leaving hospital this morning, if she gets past all the cameras and questions.

And as far as babies go, she does like very cute.

Having a first baby is a very special time for parents and family. I hope they manage to weather the media storm without too many problems.

Ardern finished with a word of thanks to the public. Jacinda and Clarke are looking very good together with their baby Neve.

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  1. Gezza

     /  June 24, 2018

    How is Neve pronounced?

    Neeve?
    Nehveh?
    Nayvay?

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    • Corky

       /  June 24, 2018

      I would go with your first interpretation.

      ‘Neve is most often an anglicized version of Niamh, but in the case of Neve (NEHV) Campbell it’s her mother’s Dutch surname. The girl’s name Neve is also a variant of Neva (Latin), and the meaning of Neve is “snow”. Neve means “snow” in Italian and in Portugese.”

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  June 24, 2018

        Niamh is more or less Nee-ev (it’s hard to transcribe) and is Irish, It’s a female name.

        The Latin for snow is NOT neva. Neva is not a Latin word.

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        • Corky

           /  June 24, 2018

          I wouldn’t have a clue. The above is courtesy of Google, although I did see the Irish roots mentioned on another link.

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        • Corky

           /  June 24, 2018

          The PM may not think the name is Irish.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  June 24, 2018

            One would hope that someone would check on the meaning of their child’s name.

            Google needs to buy a Latin dictionary. The Latin for snow is nix, nivus. (i is pron. e as in he) Surely someone at Google knows enough Latin not to make such blunders !

            The Latin word ‘neve’ means neither or nor (as in neither one thing nor the other) but is pron. nay-vay, not neev.

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            • Gezza

               /  June 25, 2018

              Sometimes people just like the sound of a name. The Chinese sometimes choose English names based not on what they mean but on what they sound like & what those soubds mean. I think. It was explained to me that way anyway.

              And one Pasifika student I know is named Janola, which is actually quite a nice-sounding name.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  June 25, 2018

              Well, Janola was named because the makers’ wives were called Jan and Nola.

              I have heard that Chinese would take English names as a compliment to the new country as well. It must seem odd to them that a name can have no obvious meaning. I think that Chinese names have literal meanings.

              I came across someone called Chlorine; a Pakeha whose parents must have known.

              I pity people whose parents distort the spelling of names, condemning little Jayson, Rylee or Jaxon or Rebekeacquah* to a life of annoyance , not to mention landing them with a tacky name.

              * a local child was burdened with that. I may be wrong about the k in the middle, but the rest is accurate. There is also a local Danyul, but he deserves it.

  2. Corky

     /  June 24, 2018

    Wow! That is a name for the times.

    Covers all bases from an ambiguous cool first name, to a Maori middle name, and to finish off a double banger surname. Well done, PM.

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    • Corky

       /  June 24, 2018

      ”Ardern Gayford” is so Remmers . I wonder if now would be an opportune time for the PM to leave politics. She could make a mint with publishing deals and speaking engagements. Liberal middleclass mums would go gar-gar to hear her speak. If she takes that option she may wind up buying the house next to Sir John Key. Of course by then she will probably be known as Dame Jacinda Ardern. As for Clarke.. well, he will be seen but not heard.

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      • Gezza

         /  June 24, 2018

        No, that’s not a double banger surname. That’s using mum’s name as another given name. Very popular these days, but also common in earlier times & with the wealthy generally. A double banger surname is Ardern-Gayford.

        This child’s children will be Gayfords.

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        • Gezza

           /  June 24, 2018

          I beg your pardon. This child is a Gayford. Her children will have whatever surname dhe chooses to give it. There is no particular reason why a child has to necessarily take the father’s surname these days. In fact, given the number who end up not living with the father these days it might even be wiser for the tradition to switch over to using mum’s maiden name.

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  3. MaureenW

     /  June 24, 2018

    What a mess of names – like they were pulled out of a hat. Bit like Labour’s policies

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    • Blazer

       /  June 24, 2018

      I thought Labour were just mimicing Nationals ..policies.

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      • PDB

         /  June 24, 2018

        They’re trying to now – after back tracking on most of their own policies that were pulled from a hat.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  June 24, 2018

      I agree, Maureen.(don’t faint with shock) It was on the cards that a Maori name would be used, of course. Neve is not madly original, to put it mildly, and will date very quickly.

      But what a collection of names to burden someone with. Imagine trying to fit those on a form.

      What on earth is Clarke Gayford wearing that mangy looking garment foe ?

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      • MaureenW

         /  June 24, 2018

        …. faints 😱

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  June 24, 2018

          Brandy ! who has the brandy ?

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          • MaureenW

             /  June 24, 2018

            The name has no flow – word-syllables and sounds are not complementary. Guess she’ll be Neve Gayford. Looks a cute wee baby though

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            • Gezza

               /  June 24, 2018

              Yes, on 1ewes, Jacinda said the baby’s name is (phonetically) “Neeve Tee-Aroha Ardern Gayford, or Neeve Gayford for short”.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  June 25, 2018

              No, they are a clumsy combination. She’s lucky that her mother wasn’t born in Nether Wallop or McGillicuddy’s Reeks.

              The loveliest name I ever knew was Hanita Wiremu Timo Renata, which flows beautifully.

  4. Kitty Catkin

     /  June 24, 2018

    for

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  5. Here is some info on double and triple surnames, barrelled and otherwise:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-barrelled_name

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  6. Zedd

     /  June 24, 2018

    cute baby.. 🙂

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  7. sarineal

     /  June 25, 2018

    They planned for the media to be there, they were informed she was in labour and they had a room provided at the hospital, with catering to boot. They were planning to do that big media presentation the day after, but delayed it couple of days as strangely they got to stay 3 days when most are given the boot to home or other care in hours. They have been feeding information out, the public was informed breakfast the day after was marmite on toast, then it was porridge.

    It’s been absolutely gripping (well, trying to avoid all of that). I do wish them well but I hope they don’t carry on. It’s an infant, not public property and they should be protected from the invasive bottom feeding press.

    As for the name, there’s Neve Campbell but I think it’s pronounced differently and they are using it as a anglicised version of Niamh. Only thing is it might be a bit confusing, they have to be constantly telling people how it is spelt but there are plenty of other names like that which have variations in spelling.

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    • Blazer

       /  June 25, 2018

      I think they decided they couldn’t …hide the event.

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