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  1. lurcher1948

     /  June 29, 2018

    Trump and the [deleted] Milos has fired up some [one] enough to shoot up a news room…4 dead.Trump the bringer of death in America

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    • Shootings have hardly just started under Trump’s presidency.

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    • Corky

       /  June 29, 2018

      I’m sure you are right, Lurchy. This shooter woke up today and said ” Trump is president. I’m going to shoot a newsroom up.” Simple when you think about it.

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      • lurcher1948

         /  June 29, 2018

        “We have to shut down the fake news” shouts the orange POTUS#45 to his feral rightwing supporters here and there and the knuckle draggers scream SHUT THEM DOWN as the police carry 5 bodies out.,sorted it for you Corky

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        • Corky

           /  June 29, 2018

          The suspect is currently not talking. Are you psychic? Or are you interviewing your keyboard?

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          • lurcher1948

             /  June 29, 2018

            And removed his fingerprints, poor bastard was unhappy with his paper delivery
            and reads rightwing/nazi blogs

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        • MaureenW

           /  June 29, 2018

          Talking of knuckle-draggers, take an objective look at your own post.

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  2. PartisanZ

     /  June 29, 2018

    I’ve always said, “If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em” …..

    Well ……… actually … I never say that, but, as I always say …

    “There’s an exception to every rule” ……..

    (not that choosing NOT to join the herd is really a rule …)

    GENERATION ZERO …….. (who are they to know I’m over 60*) … ZERO CARBON ACT SUBMISSIONS …….. MAKE A SUBMISSION …….. ***

    http://www.generationzero.org/zca_submission

    I’ve suggested any legislation must adopt TOPs Climate Change Action Policy, which I imagine everyone, even many Righties, would approve of –

    https://www.top.org.nz/top6

    This is a case where doing the right thing is right … and doing the Left thing is right.
    Whereas doing the Right thing is wrong.

    * Who are they to know I belong to the generation who stole their *Kiwi* legacy, continued to run amok on Earth – who indeed are still trying to force the entire Planet into globalized managed market, excess consumerism addiction – and made zero carbon emmissions legislation necessary at all …!?

    We knew … We knew the Ancient Sunshine was expiring … and we didn’t act!

    Isn’t it lucky we don’t have inter-generational warfare like we have inter-national? Imagine if generations truly held each other to account? If they “came after us”? (Good idea for a Sci-Fi movie)

    Speaks to the possibility of a predominance of Prosocial Behaviour among Humans? We could maybe encourage and enhance that rather than contradict it with this “all life is competition” BULLSHIT?

    *** I felt the need to see for myself how the Rightie experience of making a ‘cloned submission’ really feels … “additional comments” made it pleasant enough to be bearable.

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    • Corky

       /  June 29, 2018

      ”All life is competition” BULLSHIT?”

      Trust me, you want to survive in this world you must compete. That social order will always be with mankind no matter his state of evolution. What will change is what and how we compete.

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      • Gezza

         /  June 29, 2018

        Trust me
        Lol.

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      • PartisanZ

         /  June 29, 2018

        “Competition and cooperation are often juxtaposed, yet in the market they are two sides of the same activity. One of the oldest observations by economists is the way in which the division of labor and exchange enables an uncountable number of people to contribute to the production of any given product.

        Adam Smith used the example of a wool coat and all the people who were part of its production, from the owner of the sheep who produced the wool, to those who contributed to the dye, to those who made the buttons, to those who put it all together and those who sold it.

        In our own era, Leonard Read’s classic essay, “I, Pencil,” captures this same idea. When we consider the vastly more extensive division of labor in the 21st century, as compared to the eighteenth — particularly the elaborate communications and transportation processes — the number of people who contribute to the production of even the simplest product is beyond our ability to list.

        What’s most fascinating about these stories is that they demonstrate the ways in which markets extend human cooperation.”

        https://fee.org/articles/competition-and-cooperation/

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  3. Blazer

     /  June 29, 2018

    National shill finds Key was the petitioner and does an about turn…

    ‘The latest Tweets from Matthew Hooton (@MatthewHootonNZ). MD of Exceltium. … With everything that has come to light, it’s now clear Mr Parker was entirely blameless in the Te Arai matter. My apologies to you minister. 7 replies 13 retweets …

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  4. lurcher1948

     /  June 29, 2018

    Do the female rightwing posters on this blog realize how much some rightwingers on a nearby rightwing blog dislike females working,the right hate you ladies because you get pregnant,and are generally not knuckle dragging morons and get ahead as you dont harbor hatred like the loser right males, and how come Farrar and Kiwiblog allows it to happen

    igm
    We, as collective venture, no longer employ females unless absolutely necessary. This will be the norm in many workplaces as time progresses.

    Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 LOG IN TO REPLY REPORTJUNE 29, 2018 9:34AM

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  5. Corky

     /  June 29, 2018

    I see ABS bank now requires every depositor to show ID. That and the push to remove physical currency is a sure sign Big brother is now doing a final push to have complete control over every part of our lives.

    Pray with me comrades.

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    • Gezza

       /  June 29, 2018

      Yup. Who’d have thought. The real Big Brother turns out to be Big Business.

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      • Corky

         /  June 29, 2018

        I miss John Hurt’s voice.

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      • PartisanZ

         /  June 29, 2018

        Yep … and the only real problem with Corporate Dictatorship is that it isn’t one single thing …

        It’s really Dictatorship by Corporate Oligarchy or Plutocracy.

        There are several if not many competing Corporate-Capitalist-Political elites. A prime example is ‘property in the soil’ or Real Estate.

        The CCP elites should get their shit together and unite. Maybe call themselves the Illuminati?

        CCP sounds like a perfect name for a fictitious Inverted Totalitarian State, doesn’t it?

        The problem is CCP elites have left themselves very few if any avenues by which they can unite … War doesn’t seem to work very well …

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    • PartisanZ

       /  June 29, 2018

      They should call that film clip of yours ‘The Donald Trump Companion’ Corky …

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      • Corky

         /  June 29, 2018

        Did you see how austere the surroundings were, Parti? It captures the dankness of collectivism. That cold dark grey devoid of the vitalising human spirit.

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  6. lurcher1948

     /  June 29, 2018

    I feel sad for David Farrar and this post, which was reasonable, for a change
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/06/some_of_these_changes_are_good.html
    [If you keep making general abusive criticism I will keep not letting them through. Address specific issues, don’t just keep spraying everyone. PG]

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  7. Gezza

     /  June 29, 2018

    Prominent item on 1ewes tonite about the unsuitability of the new Deputy Police Commissioner for the role. Certainly sounds like a poor decision to me.

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    • PartisanZ

       /  June 29, 2018

      ‘Louise Nicholas ‘hit the roof’ when Wally Haumaha appointed as deputy police commissioner’ – NZHeraldo

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12079622

      Not a good look for NZ Police …

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      • Gezza

         /  June 29, 2018

        They featured quite extended interview clips of her. She mentioned that despite his formulaic expressions of regret women who’ve worked with him have told her he still makes them very uncomfortable with his attitudes.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  June 29, 2018

          Louise Nicholas was shown in court to be a liar and a fantasist, the accused men were acquitted.

          How the police can let someone who has caused so much trouble and distress (one man killed himself because her accusations ruined his life) anywhere near them is a real mystery to me. According to her, she was raped numerous times by numerous policemen from the age of 13 onwards, in several towns. Also by a group of Maori youths on horseback, by way of variety.As a schoolgirl, she would be called into the station as she passed it on her way home, and then raped on the table in the back room. She is the last person whom I would let near a real rape victim. .

          Anyone who read her own website, as I did before it was taken down, would find it impossible to believe her claims. Nobody is raped that often. What kind of father would confront the rapist of his underage (13) daughter and agree to do nothing about it ? Who is in a wedding party with someone (her brother’s best man) who has raped them many times and is seen on video dancing and flirting with him ? Who talks to their rapist and kisses him ? (also on film) Who keeps letting rapists into the house ?

          She is the one who should have been charged with perjury and making false complaints.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  June 29, 2018

            It’s beyond me that anyone takes this serial liar seriously.

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            • Gezza

               /  June 29, 2018

              It wasn’t beyond another Jury that anyone took the two acquitted police officers already convicted of the other rape & coercive sexual behaviour that her Jury wasn’t told about.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  June 29, 2018

              No, but that doesn’t mean that they did the same to her….so many times and wherever she went.

              Is it really credible that someone would be called into the police station over and over and raped by the policemen there over and over ? Or that police in several towns all raped her ? Or that her rapists would follow her to another town and carry on ? I think not.

            • Gezza

               /  June 29, 2018

              *seriously.
              She wouldn’t have had the role she has had with the Police without them recognising how screwed up she was & how used & abused she was because of it.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  June 29, 2018

              She’s a liar and a fantasist, her website was incredible and I wish that it hadn’t been taken down. Nobody is raped that many times by so many people in the same profession and in so many towns !

              One of her supporters was from Northland and was also supposedly a victim of multiple rapes. I forget her name. This woman was so notorious for making baseless allegations that the police were instructed that under no circumstances were they ever to be alone with her, even for a few minutes.

              Louise Nicholas may well be a sociopath, and they are known to be convincing liars and manipulators. She certainly appears to be one.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  June 29, 2018

              The more fools the Police for taking her on after the damage she has caused, even driving a man to suicide.

            • Gezza

               /  June 29, 2018

              It is totally beyond me how you sometimes manage to get a later comment inserted by the system between two comments which were already posted and had already appeared as consecutive posts.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  June 29, 2018

              I don’t, either, it’s nothing that I do.

  8. PartisanZ

     /  June 29, 2018

    “Author’s Note: In a previous essay, I challenged my readers to ask themselves, “Are we good enough for liberty?”

    In the following piece, I will ask a second question that is the other side of the same precious coin: do we believe in liberty enough to be good?

    In other words, will you treat the ideas of liberty as mere fodder for political posturing and internet debates? Or do you love liberty enough to embrace it as a life philosophy?

    The future of freedom hinges on the answer to that question, so please read on!”

    https://fee.org/articles/liberty-as-a-life-philosophy/?utm_source=ribbon

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