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18 Comments

    • Trevors_Elbow

       /  July 1, 2018

      So illegal immigrants can demand a sovereign state surrenders some key aspects of sovereignty, control of its borders and the issue of who is a citizen, and allow more illegal immigration… wonderful…

      Leftists hate national structures, hate national identity and will stop at nothing to erase it…. and in the US case its willingly aided by Mexico not policing its sovereign territory properly and allowing masses of central american nationals to traverse Mexico seeking work in the US…. Mexico is defacto waging war on the US to try and reclaim the South Western US states that they lost years and years ago

      Build the wall, deport promptly all illegals and manage immigration properly

      • It’s nowhere near that simple, as has been obvious for decades.

        • Trevors_Elbow

           /  July 1, 2018

          It is that simple Pete actually.

          • If it was that simple it would have been done long ago.

            The wall is going to take time and will never been complete, and won’t stop all illegal immigration.

            There’s about 11 million illegals in the US, and they have many beneficial effects.

            Research shows that illegal immigrants increase the size of the U.S. economy, contribute to economic growth, enhance the welfare of natives, contribute more in tax revenue than they collect, reduce American firms’ incentives to offshore jobs and import foreign-produced goods, and benefit consumers by reducing the prices of goods and services.

            Economists estimate that legalization of the illegal immigrant population would increase the immigrants’ earnings and consumption considerably, and increase U.S. gross domestic product.

            There is no evidence that illegal immigration increases the rate of crime in the United States.[23] There is scholarly consensus that illegal immigrants commit less crime than natives

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States

            So if it were possible to identify, locate and deport all illegals it would have considerable effects on the US economy, generally negative.

            It really isn’t simple in practice.

          • sorethumb

             /  July 1, 2018

            It is that simple Pete actually.
            Amen to that.

      • Gezza

         /  July 1, 2018

        Let’s face facts, Trump style. Americans are mass murderers & school kid shooters. They They are gun runners and arms dealers. They are drug addicts. They are agressors who invade other countries. Their Presidents tell lies & cheat on their wives. Their police shoot unarmed black people dead. They threaten to attack countries who don’t do what they want or buy enuf American made goods. They fund terrorists who attack them with planes. They topple regimes & cause civil wars. They sell arms to dictatorial repressive regimes including those with apartheid-type policies. And some, I assume, are good people.

        Really, what the world needs to do, is build a wall right around the US to stop them getting out, & get America to pay for it.

    • Corky

       /  July 1, 2018

      A better picture of why I’m a Rightie, I cannot find.

  1. Pesky legal processes that get in the way of a president doing whatever he pleases.

    • Corky

       /  July 1, 2018

      Trump has many more draconian measures he can enact, Pete, thanks to previous presidential orders bypassing the American Constitution.

    • Gezza

       /  July 1, 2018

      From the photo I saw he looked like a Trump voter.

  2. sorethumb

     /  July 1, 2018

  3. Will the US go backwards on women’s rights?