Ray Avery versus Helen Clark

Helen Clark has been involved in a stoush with Ray Avery over a proposed charity concert at Eden Park on Waitangi Day next year.

RNZ: Helen Clark fires back at Sir Ray Avery

Helen Clark says Sir Ray Avery has adopted a “bullying approach” after she voiced opposition to a charity concert he wants to hold at Eden Park.

Ms Clark lives about 400m from the stadium where Sir Ray hopes put on a Live Aid-style concert to raise funds for premature babies.

The former prime minister called the proposal a Trojan horse that would pave the way for more concerts at the venue.

Sir Ray, formerly named New Zealander of the year, countered that she was engaging in “petty politics” on an issue that involved saving children’s lives

Ms Clark told Checkpoint with John Campbell that she was merely exercising her rights as a Mt Eden resident, pointing out that there were many alternative venues for the event.

“I guess my point is, how does this make the ordinary citizen around Eden Park feel that if you put your head up and oppose something that a prominent New Zealander wants that you’re going to be savaged in the media and called all sorts of things?”

She compared Sir Ray’s remarks to those of a social media troll.

“There’s a particular type of troll on [sites like Twitter] which pretty much falls into line with the rather bullying approach that Mr Avery has adopted.

“Now, he’s probably picked the wrong person to try to bully in directly attacking me.”

Avery has been interviewed on the Nation this morning.

Sir Ray Avery apologises to Helen Clark if he has come across as a bully, but also said said Clark’s position on the Eden Park concert is “morally wrong”

…says the international act coming to his charity concert is “huge” and a male act

Avery says that the cost of bringing in a high profile international act was huge so they needed a venue of the size of Eden Park to cover costs and raise money.

There seems to be a strong group of Nimbys who are staunchly against anything musical (apart from sports event clips) at Eden Park.

I suspect Clark may regret making an issue of this, but she is in an awkward position being anti noise at Eden Park, so make find it difficult to support the charity and concert.

Just one concert doesn’t seem like a big deal. It’s understandable for opponents to fear that it could open the floodgates and rock the neighbourhood, but the ‘not in my backyard’ protests can be a bit too precious about protecting a quiet way of life for themselves in the middle of a large city.

 

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  1. Kitty Catkin

     /  July 7, 2018

    One concert.

    She is, I fear, coming across as a nimby.

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  2. Please support this inspirational and transformational event people. https://www.thelifepod.co.nz/millionbabies/

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  3. Blazer

     /  July 7, 2018

    is he making a profit from sales?

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    • Corky

       /  July 7, 2018

      Is he saving human lives?

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    • You speak mean spiritedly. Everyone knows this is entirely charitable. The only one I’d this equation making money is Ms Clark. A woman of vast property holdings.

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      • Blazer

         /  July 7, 2018

        looks alot like a marketing promotion…tbh…

        Avery and Glenn are both ‘rich pricks’ by average Kiwi standards. So why the difference in their public treatment?

        Avery himself hints at the answer. He memorably described Glenn as a “loveable rogue” who is “flash” about his donations. Whereas others slip a million or two quietly into an anonymous pot, Glenn likes his name on the front of the building. ‘

        NZH 2011-‘At a little ceremony at his company’s offices in Onehunga, he presented Sir Ray Avery’s charity, Medicine Mondiale, with $500,000 for the development of an affordable, quality incubator that will save the lives of babies in developing countries. -Hugh Green

        Arahoe school donated $2 in 2016..
        ‘Enough funding to allow the production of 339 incubators has been raised so far and Avery says about $350,000 is needed to start complete production. ‘-Stuff.

        Well lets hope Sir Ray manages to rustle up the $4million.

        Sir Graeme Avery – wine, tourism – $130 million (up $40 million)–NZ rich list.

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        • Maggy Wassilieff

           /  July 7, 2018

          Sir Ray Avery is not Sir Graeme Avery.
          2 different people.

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          • Gezza

             /  July 7, 2018

            Christ. How could anyone cock that up? Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy.

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          • Blazer

             /  July 7, 2018

            no he isn’t…Ray is not as wealthy as Graeme.

            ‘In pursuing his causes, Avery hasn’t been shy about furthering his own. He’s always made sure that his inventions have made a profit for him as well as his foundation, and although his net worth isn’t a matter of public record, he’s indisputably wealthy. These days, he will admit to his “womanising past and love of fast cars”, the years in which he “had everything” but “just didn’t know what love was – no one had ever shown me’

            $4million seems a popular number for him…NZH-‘It is now seeking a further $4 million to fund its global expansion programme.-‘Vigil Monitoring co-founder Sir Ray Avery says the company’s latest product can disrupt the insurance industry.’

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      • Blazer

         /  July 8, 2018

        ‘ Everyone knows this is entirely charitable.’-tell Ray that.


        ‘In pursuing his causes, Avery hasn’t been shy about furthering his own. He’s always made sure that his inventions have made a profit for him as well as his foundation, and although his net worth isn’t a matter of public record, he’s indisputably wealthy’.

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  4. Corky

     /  July 7, 2018

    After a life of living in an alternate reality surrounded by ‘yes’ people, Helen is find the going a little tough.

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  5. Gezza

     /  July 7, 2018

    I guess my point is, how does this make the ordinary citizen around Eden Park feel that if you put your head up and oppose something that a prominent New Zealander wants that you’re going to be savaged in the media and called all sorts of things?”

    Helen isn’t a prominent New Zealander herself? She suddenly morphed into an ordinary suburban housewife?

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    • duperez

       /  July 7, 2018

      Any ordinary suburban housewife in the same sort of situation or similar, saying the stuff which Clark said from the beginning, wouldn’t have been listened to or gained any attention. As such would’ve been fodder for being steam-rolled over.

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      • Gezza

         /  July 7, 2018

        I don’t know whether that’s necessarily true. But that’s not my point. Is it? Helen is omplaining Ray is a prominent New Zealander & that this means objecting to his proposal puts anyone at the disadvantage of being likely to be savaged in tne media. I’ve never heard of the man & I don’t live in Auckland but I do know that arguing with Helen Clark can put people in the position of being savaged in the media & called all sorts of things. She’s a hypocrite. Has been for years. But she still has a right to say Not In My Backyard Please Because I Don’t Like Ray Avery And I Don’t Want Noise & And I Think If This Concert Goes Ahead There’ll Be More Of Them.

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        • Gezza

           /  July 7, 2018

          Dunno what the downtick’s for. There are only a couple of typos. Lying down on the sofa with the FiP on me lap. One can’t expect perfection.

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          • Gezza

             /  July 7, 2018

            Oh. Ok, just a wanker? No worries. All good. 👍🏼

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  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  July 7, 2018

    Good to see Helen and Seymour on the same side in Epsom.

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  7. Gezza

     /  July 7, 2018

    Here’s Ray speaking on the matter on Newshub Nation today

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2018/07/interview-sir-ray-avery.html

    Interesting character.

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  8. Fight4NZ

     /  July 8, 2018

    If he invented a method of contraception that restricted conception to levels that reduced the world population to a sustainable level it would worth having a concert. Ones that just hasten the demise of the planet seem self defeating.

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