“We will only accept and tolerate leftists”

A new political forum – New Zealand Left

That says little about it, but more from ‘Pebbles’ at Reddit:

…myself and some others have recently started a discord specifically to bring together leftists in New Zealand. If you’re interested in joining, go to this link! https://discord.gg/dPXeAv4

We will only accept and tolerate leftists, this isn’t a server for right-wingers to join and try to argue.

It’s to bring together people and have debates and maybe even meet up one day. It’s just a place for like minded people to communicate.

What makes them leftists?

They believe in equality in society. And helping out those who underprivileged on today’s society.

Some one asked Are you aware of www.thestandard.org.nz?

It sounds similar to what some at The Standard want, or wanted. ‘Weka’ tried to moderate The Standard into a ring fenced left wing forum. What happened to her? She just seemed to disappear earlier this year.

This looks like her last comments (March): https://thestandard.org.nz/tpp-2-electric-boogaloo/

And her last post:  There is a hole left in the world

But I think the new forum is probably a different idealist group wanting to talk amongst themselves, seemingly in private.

It’s not unusual in politics for people to not tolerate views they don’t agree with. I find this odd, but it seems common.

19 Comments

  1. Alan Wilkinson

     /  July 7, 2018

    The loony Left are notorious for their intolerant factions. They like to retreat from the real world.

    In the real world I’ve got dogs ructioning all over me.

    • Patzcuaro

       /  July 7, 2018

      Dog ructions, are you being hounded?

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  July 7, 2018

        No, just carrying on doggedly .

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 7, 2018

        Our chihuahua wants to play fight everything bigger than her at 100mph. Chaos in the bedroom. Took them out to the cabins to run around and now they are all snoozing contentedly.

    • Zedd

       /  July 7, 2018

      ‘The loony Left are notorious for their intolerant factions. They like to retreat from the real world.’ sez AW

      again with the ‘loonie left’ stuff.. & people say I use generalisation (Tories).. just because we may have things in common, does not make us ALL the same; but yes, we likely are all ‘LOONIES’ Alan :/ 😀

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  July 7, 2018

        I would think that a site where they all agree would soon pall.

        PDTs aren’t doglovers, it seems. I hope that a pitbull bites them all on the bum.

  2. sorethumb

     /  July 7, 2018

    There are bad actors on the left who don’t want equality: they want to turn the tables of oppression.

    • sorethumb

       /  July 7, 2018

      He doesn’t say all on the left are like that. Which ones are the down tickers?

  3. Corky

     /  July 7, 2018

    ”We will only accept and tolerate leftists, this isn’t a server for right-wingers to join and try to argue.”

    No problems with that. They are straight up front. No charades about being fair and inclusive.

    While these Lefties are backslapping amongst themselves they aren’t bothering us.

    I wonder if these people are feeling the heat as Conservatives fight back?

  4. wooden goat

     /  July 7, 2018

    It’s my view that not only can’t the Left’s ideas compete on a level playing-field – they can’t even compete on a tilted-towards-them playing field! In other words, the MSM. Despite the MSM all over the world being completely controlled by leftists, people are waking up to that (and to the Left as a whole) and seeing it for what it is.

    Witness the Visegrad nations rejecting taking in Muslim immigrants.
    *They* are not stupid. Having been subjected to one invasion already (the Soviets), they recognise another one when they see it.

    Witness the ongoing flood of left-wingers leaving the left and heeding the #walkaway movement in the US.

    The Left can’t compete so banning free speech is its only option.

    Witness the bans of Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux to travel hear and speak. They would have told people here about the danger of *Islam*. ( Oh, how *awful* to have been made aware of that!
    Shock! Horror! /sarc )

    Here are a few facts (with sources) about Islam –

    * Followers of Islam have killed an estimated 270 million people (and counting) in the last 1400 years
    https://www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/

    * Pedophilia is permitted in Islam. Mohammed himself married his wife Aisha when she was six, and consummated the marriage when she was nine. See here – “A complete guide to pedophilia in Islam (WRITTEN BY EX-MUSLIMS) –
    https://gloria.tv/article/L4x4aHUixC8j2ewQbWy6nd9mF

    – and here –
    https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophilia

    * Slavery is permitted in Islam.
    https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Slavery
    https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islamic_Law#Slavery
    https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/slavery.aspx

    I could go on (and I could prove that Islam is in fact an ideology and political system, not a religion), but you get the idea.
    So gee – being against that stuff makes one an “extremist” and a “hate speaker”? I think not!

    Why would anyone be *for* an ideology that sanctions those behaviours (and many more evil things)?

    That is ALL that Southern and Molyneux would have said here, and yet they get banned for being “extremists”! Those who have taken this action are a *disgrace* to this country and to the hard-won freedoms that we have here.

    Finally, I would point out that the ban seems to breach a few Articles of the UN Declaration of Human Rights, as follows –

    Article 19.
    Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

    Article 30.
    Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any STATE, GROUP OR PERSON any right to engage in any activity or to perform ANY ACT AIMED AT THE DESTRUCTION OF ANY OF THE RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS SET FORTH HEREIN.

    Cheers –
    wooden goat

  5. Zedd

     /  July 7, 2018

    I just went for a look… but you have to log in, to even do this, so I backed out.. quick smart !
    not my kinda thing ?

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  July 7, 2018

      There you go. Not all the Left are loony, Zedd, not even you. Beware of those who are.

  6. wooden goat

     /  July 7, 2018

    What gets me is the *hypocrisy* of the Left.

    Look at all of the lefty groups with “peace” in their names, yet they do “mob rule” via banning speakers or directly via thuggery (e.g. Antifa).
    This would be the “peaceful, human-rights-loving Left” that we keep hearing so much about…. 🙂

    Then there is the Left’s love affair with *Islam* – one of the most evil ideologies to ever exist. An ideology that breaks every human right that you can think of!
    ( Isn’t the Left supposed to be big on “human rights”? )

    ( If any lefties want to learn the cold, hard truth about Islam, I can easily post a number of excellent links here. Please let me know if you’d like to see them. )

    If lefties *really* knew about Islam and *really* believed in “human rights”, they would be falling over themselves in their efforts to criticise Islam. They would be falling over themselves to support and congratulate the Visegrad countries which are trying to keep Muslim “”immigrants”” out.

    Sadly, they are not doing those things. Their silence speaks volumes.
    – wooden goat

  7. Fight4NZ

     /  July 8, 2018

    Isn’t it National, a right wing party, who spent 9 years running the economy based on unfettered, non-selective immigration. Turned Auckland into a shithole ghetto and called it ‘vibrant’. Howled like stuck pigs when Labour questioned it.
    If there’s money in it the right will sell their grandmother, and try to say the left is loony.