Q&A – Minister for Women on gender discrimination

Minister for Women Julie Anne Genter wants a 50:50 mix of men and women on all state sector boards by 2021.

See (2 July) Milestone reached for women in the state sector

The Government has reached a major milestone in its commitment to eliminate the gender pay gap in the public service, as new Gender Pay Principles are launched tonight, State Services Minister Chris Hipkins and Minister for Women Julie Anne Genter said today

And (6 July) More women on public boards

Membership of all state sector boards will be evenly represented by women and men by 2021, Minister for Women Julie Anne Genter announced today.

“We will ensure half of all directors on state sector boards and committees are women by 2021.”

What if there are uneven numbers of directors? (Perhaps there’s always an even number).

More than 2,600 appointments are made to state sector boards every year. These include large SOEs, conservation boards and community trusts.

The Government today released the latest Gender stocktake of state sector boards and committees which shows record high level of women’s participation. As at the end of 2017, women represented 45.7 percent of state sector boards and committees, but Ms Genter said the Government was more ambitious for women than that.

“The Government is also investigating collecting ethnicity data. This would give us better information about ethnicity of our boards with a view to ensure diversity and representation of all New Zealanders,” said Ms Genter.

Seems like a worthwhile goal, but I wonder if it’s wise to make it a hard and fast rule. There may be some boards that are better represented by something other than a 50-50 split.

Q&A: We’ll ask her what progress New Zealand is making on ending all gender discrimination – Sunday 9am TVNZ1

Genter has clarified, the 50% target is across all boards, not on individual boards.

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28 Comments

  1. NOEL

     /  July 8, 2018

    In the Australian Army they have positions that are now gender specific. They weren’t initally but with the high turnover of women it was inevitable.
    If gender is to be the driver over qulifications and merit I can see the same secenerio here.
    In the public service.

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  2. Zedd

     /  July 8, 2018

    JAG is saying it is time Aotearoa/NZ finally dragged our collective ass into 21st century.. on this & many other issues.
    Many so-called ‘community & business leaders’ may have been born on 1950-60s BUT this does not mean we should stay in that mindset.. BUT still championed by the Tories/Right !

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    • sorethumb

       /  July 8, 2018
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    • Grimm

       /  July 8, 2018

      Catch up Zedd. It’s 46% already. She’s announced the easiest govt target ever.

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    • Gerrit

       /  July 8, 2018

      If the 2i st century has employers needing to have equal gender split in total roster of employees, than I am glad to stay in the 20th century where one can employ people based on the skill set they bring to the employment.

      If the Greens were so in favour of equal gender split, how come their representatives in parliament favour females by 3 to 1?

      More off do as we say, not as we do…from socialists/lefties/sjw.

      I guess in the 21st century it will be more hypocrisy from those who think they know it all.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  July 8, 2018

        Ummmm….this IS the 21st century.

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        • Gerrit

           /  July 8, 2018

          Yep and if you read Zedd post, in this glorious new social justice age called the 21st century, we will have equality in gender representation in the workforce. nfact accoreding to Zedd we will be dragged screaming and kicking into that glorious age (the age of Aquarius? – you have to have been around in the days of the musical Hair to understand)

          Never mind the quality, feel the width of the gender equal workforce.

          Hence I prefer the way we were in the 20th century…able to employ the best person suited for the job, never mind gender.

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  3. David

     /  July 8, 2018

    “We’re issuing a challenge across New Zealand to change current workplace cultures and support women into leadership roles, not just because that’s the fair thing to do, but also because diversity helps organisations function more effectively.”

    Interesting claim. Does she have any evidence for this?

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  July 8, 2018

      Ha ha.

      I find her attitude maddeningly patronsing. How dare she say that women can’t do these things without encouragement and support, as if we were backward children ?

      One of my great-aunts was the head of a government department in the 50s, on her own merit, not because her hand was held. How does JAG think that women succeeded in the past ? All my great-aunts had careers. None felt the need to be supported and encouraged because of their sex, they did what they wanted to do.

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      • Gerrit

         /  July 8, 2018

        So why this call for gender equality if Women don’t need it? Patronising to say the least, no?

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  4. David

     /  July 8, 2018

    JAG is a bit tiresome, lets hear her call for a change at the top of the country where women hold the 3 top positions. Its time a man was appointed to be either chief justice, governor general or prime minister…lets hear her push for either a minister for men or the abolition of her own cushy ministry in the interests of equality.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  July 8, 2018

      A BIT tiresome ????

      I was going to mention the oddity of only having a ministry for women, It is hugely unflattering to put women into the category of those who need such a thing.

      Yes, I bet that it’s a cushy ministry.

      Does she know that we have had two women PMs already ? Silly cow,

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      • 2Tru

         /  July 8, 2018

        Three female PM’s Kitty. Jenny Shipley (the first female PM) is often overlooked.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  July 9, 2018

          I said that we’d had two already, I hadn’t forgotten Jenny Shipley.

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  5. adamsmith1922

     /  July 8, 2018

    My thoughts on this from a couple of days ago
    https://adamsmith.wordpress.com/2018/07/06/why-is-julie-anne-genter-such-an-idiot/
    Most women I had the privilege of working with would find Genter’s stance tokenism and very condescending

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    • David

       /  July 8, 2018

      She drives my wife insane. Women are quite capable of charting their own way and generally, according to her, the biggest obstacles in the workplace are other women tearing each other down.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  July 9, 2018

        One of my great-aunts was a racing driver who competed at Brands Hatch and the other big one, owned her own garage and went to Canada where she became an executive with General Motors. No doubt this would astonish JAG, but all her sisters had professions. Nobody held their wee hands and ‘encouraged’ them. I asked C, the one mentioned here, what she thought of the glass ceiling idea. and she looked at me as if I’d asked if she believed in the tooth fairy.

        The most vocal opponents of equal pay were the wives of working men, as they saw it as a threat to their incomes.

        If one more person assumes that my great-aunt who was a doctor was the only one in her class, I will not be responsible for my actions. How insulting women are to other women. It’s as if it’s so rare for us to accomplish anything that a great hoohah has to be made, or worse, our own categories have to be made.

        In my last year at Vic, I worked as a cleaner in the evenings. Guess who patronised the cleaner and had the least consideration, the men or the women ?

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  6. Dave K

     /  July 8, 2018

    Is she equally calling for gender equality in education, particularly in the primary sector where the gender imbalance is more pronounced? Currently sits at ~84% female teachers (https://educationcentral.co.nz/female-school-principals-overtake-males-in-nz-schools/), when lots of evidence suggets that boys do best with a balance of role models

    But only boys I guess, who cares….they only grow up to be male, stale and for a large part pale anyway

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  July 9, 2018

      Is she demanding that women have equal numbers in the shitty jobs like being dustmen and moving men, or those who go down sewers and do the heavy work generally ?

      Ha ha.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 9, 2018

        Possibly need a Minister for Moving Road Cones. Could be a woman?

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  July 9, 2018

          I know just the person ! Her name’s Julie Anne Genter.

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          • Gezza

             /  July 9, 2018

            Bad idea. Next there would demands for a Minister for Stationary Road Cones.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 9, 2018

              Minister for Navel Gazing, then.

            • Gezza

               /  July 9, 2018

              I rather suspect she’s already currently doing quite a lot of that.

  7. Richard

     /  July 9, 2018

    American import. Doesn’t understand NZ values at all. Just another clapped out hippie.

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  8. Alan Wilkinson

     /  July 9, 2018

    Would probably be more usefully employed asking why we need 434 State Sector Boards.

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