The Molyneux-Southern Australasian speaking tour

The speaking event involving Stefan Molyneux and Lauren Southern was quickly canned in Auckland after mayor Phil Goff decided that he not only didn’t want to listen to the two Canadians, but he also didn’t want anyone else listening to them at council owned venues.

But it looks like the Australian leg of the tour is still on – with tickets ranging between $79 and $749  – the top price for ‘a once in a lifetime opportunity to break bread at an intimate function prior to the main event that evening with not one but two of the most influential Alt Media personalities of our generation’.  I’d never heard of them so don’t know how influential they are.

The tour blurb at Axiomatic Events:

“Australia is at a crossroads…”

Axiomatic is proud to bring Alt Media commentators and conservative activists STEFAN MOLYNEUX & LAUREN SOUTHERN to Australia and New Zealand in 2018 for a free speech evening of stories, opinions, inspiration and Q&A.

Stefan Molyneux is the host of Freedomain Radio, the largest and most popular philosophy show in the world, with half a billion views, downloads and book sales. He is an in-demand public speaker, best-selling author and incisive interviewer. Stefan Molyneux has hosted many public intellectuals and debates on his show, from Noam Chomsky to Jordan Peterson.

Rejecting left/right political clichés, Stefan Molyneux builds rational arguments from first principles, combining a respect for self-ownership with the morality of the non-aggression principle to build a truly peaceful vision for humanity’s future. From peaceful parenting to politics, from objective ethics to emotions, Stefan Molyneux brings the clarity and passion of philosophy to a wide variety of personal, political and social challenges.

Lauren Southern is a Canadian journalist, political activist, documentary filmmaker and best selling author. She is well known for her commentary on feminism, free speech, and immigration.  Whether it’s the riots in Berkeley, Slut Walk in LA, Black Lives Matter uprising in Milwaukee, and most recently the farm murders in South Africa.

In 2015 Lauren ran as a Libertarian Party candidate in the Canadian federal election. Soon after, she was hired by Rebel Media, where she worked until March 2017. Since then, she has been working independently through her YouTube channel which has over a half million followers. Known for her fearless reporting, she  tackles stories that the mainstream media refuses to cover.  She is a lover of freedom and hedgehogs.

Tickets:

  • $79 general admission to “hear speeches by world leading commentators and justice activists”
  • $99 early admission (a few minutes early to get better seats)
  • $199 meet & greet ‘strictly limited to 40 people at each event for half an hour backstage access prior to the show’
  • $499 VIP meet & greet “10 people will get to spend an extra 15 minutes in the Meet & Greet, plus get a swag of personally signed, awesome merchandise”
  • $749 dinner and early admission “opportunity to break bread at an intimate function prior to the main event that evening with not one but two of the most influential Alt Media personalities of our generation”

I wouldn’t be surprised if ticket sales were a factor in the quick cancellation of the Auckland event.

But if you really want to listen to them live you can book tickets for Melbourne, Perth, Adelaide, Sydney or Brisbane for later this month.

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62 Comments

  1. MaureenW

     /  July 10, 2018

    Haven’t listened to Lauren Southern but Stefan Molyneux puts out some good material in my view.
    What in the hell is Goff doing? Would have thought he’d have more pressing things to do that run event censorship from the Mayors office.

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    • As Chris Trotter says:

      “Truth is not afraid of trigger-words. Truth does not need a safe space. Truth is not a snowflake”

      “Do We Really Lack the Courage to Debate the Alt-Right? Do We Really Lack the Ideas to Defeat Them?”

      http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2018/07/do-we-really-lack-courage-to-debate-alt.html

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      • MaureenW

         /  July 10, 2018

        DONATED.
        I have watched quite a lot of Stefan Molyneux, never found what he has to say anything other than interesting – and across a wide variety of topics. Amongst other topics, he speaks of the islamification of Europe and the plight of white South African farmers – is there a problem with discussing these topics? Never heard anything resembling what I would call hate speech, nor inciting people to act against others – rather commentary supported with facts and data.

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        • MaureenW

           /  July 10, 2018

          From the … Free Speech Coalition …
          Update: We have now hit the $50k initial goal, so will be proceeding with legal action! Every dollar donated will now go into the legal fund – to defend free speech in New Zealand. If we can afford it, we’ll use the extra money to hire fancy lawyers to take on the Council’s big legal guns.

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  2. Corky

     /  July 10, 2018

    There’s an organisation raising funds to take Goff to court. I will be donating as long as it isn’t through ABS.

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  3. Gezza

     /  July 10, 2018

    They’re are having to battle to find out if Southern & he can get visas to Australia. She’s not eligible for an ETA like our electronic visitors visa & has to apply for a specific type of visa. They’re supposed to be on the plane today but have had their visa applications in for 4 months and no decision has been made by Oz Immigration yet.

    The visas can be declined for people who hold controversial views that might threaten public safety.

    The embedded radio interview is interesting – Southern, & then her promoter, talk to a radio host & Mayor Goff & the Islamic Organisation with a petition for their visas to be refused, as well as leftists, & Goff higging Fidel, & Arafat, & allowing a Hezbollah rally to be held come up..

    https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/why-controversial-youtube-star-lauren-southern-was-banned-from-coming-to-australia/news-story/65862524cab3a8570a7b4eb3160daad9

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  4. DONATED.

    Who is behind this website?
    This website was created by a group of New Zealanders from across the political spectrum who believe free speech is a value worth defending. Some of the people involved and backing this campaign are:

    Dr. Michael Bassett – Former Labour Party Minister
    Dr. Don Brash – Former leader of the National and Act Parties, and former Governor of the Reserve Bank of New Zealand
    Ashley Church – Business Leader
    Dr. David Cumin – Senior Lecturer University of Auckland
    Melissa Derby – University of Canterbury Academic
    Stephen Franks – Lawyer
    Lindsay Perigo – Broadcaster
    Rachel Poulain – Writer
    Chris Trotter – Political Commentator
    Jordan Williams – Lawyer

    Even No Right Turn is in on this draconian and authoritarian travesty

    Council apparently acted on this and cancelled their booking, ostensibly for health and safety reasons. Which is about as credible as Donald Trump saying his anti-Muslim ban wasn’t about religion. When the mayor of a city says they’ve given a direction, and what they want happens, I think we’re entitled to take their word for it.

    The problem, of course, is that this is all illegal. Auckland Council is a body performing a public function and so subject to the Bill of Rights Act. Which affirms, among other things, both the right to freedom of expression, and the right to freedom from discrimination on the basis of political opinion. The Auckland Council’s actions are a prima facie violation of those rights and invite judicial review. And given Goff’s tweet, the outcome of such a review is likely to be ratepayer’s money spent on compensating Nazis for the breach of those rights, as well as an order that the council provide them with a venue (if they want one) on the same terms as any other customer.

    Goff won’t care. Like police officers who beat suspects, he will face no personal consequences for violating these rights, and there’s no political downside for him because he’s picking on someone everyone hates. But we should care. Because if we let the mayor of Auckland decide what speech is acceptable in public facilities, then a future mayor may decide that they don’t like speech that we approve of.

    https://freespeechcoalition.nz/

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    • sorethumb

       /  July 10, 2018

      I donated.

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    • Corky

       /  July 10, 2018

      Chris Trotter has truly gone down a path of no return. Not that I think he cares. Melissa Derby is a brave women. Plenty of odium waiting for her. Others are the unusual suspects.

      The faculties standing out about people on this list are:

      1- An ability to reason and extrapolate.
      2-Passion.
      3-They have actually done something.

      What worries me: Where is everyone else? Well, no passion, no brain..no comprende?

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      • Blazer

         /  July 10, 2018

        remind me what Perigo has done’…again.

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        • Corky

           /  July 10, 2018

          Broadcaster. Globally renowned Libertarian. Publishes a magazine. Has been a talkback host. Political commentator when MSM pluck up the courage. Writing a book on Mario Lanza

          And you, Blazer? Apart from being a window washer?

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          • Blazer

             /  July 10, 2018

            You are the one making a claim.Glad that CV of his impresses you.
            ‘ Globally renowned Libertarian.’…yeah right!

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            • Corky

               /  July 10, 2018

              Not being a Libertarian, what the hell would you know?

            • Blazer

               /  July 10, 2018

              I know a vegeterian,egalitarian,libertarian ,librarian who keeps me up with the..play.

            • Gezza

               /  July 10, 2018

              Man that’s a coincidence – me too! 👍🏼

  5. Zedd

     /  July 10, 2018

    Freedom of speech is one thing,
    BUT ‘Hate speech’ aimed at race, religion, sex, sex preference etc. ?

    The media could have ‘beat this up’. Goff must have had some clues though ?? :/

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  6. Gezza

     /  July 10, 2018

    25 June 2018

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    • Gezza

       /  July 10, 2018

      There’s wealth of 90 minute long bizarre polemics from this character of YouTube. I’ve watched a couple so far but am going to enjoy watching more of them. He describes himself as a philospher but it’s immediately obvious why he never publicly face to face debates anybody who has actually formally (or even informally) studied philosphy – or any expert in any of many of the fields his ranting polemics stagger into & out of. A philosopher he is definitely not.

      I’m very familiar with the dishonest pseudo-philosophical approach to variously bizarrely defined meanings of words like “transcendent”, “existence” “objective morality” that many famous religious Christian debaters use to try & prove the existence of the Abrahamic God because they know they are fucked if they rely on the contents of the Bible for objective evidence that Jaweh or God, and even Jesus, are truly moral, for example.

      He commits every sin of shoddy reasoning argument you can think of, & also employs the Gish Gallop where he throws out facts, non-facts, questionable premises, personal opinion, insults, self-praise, redefinitions of ordinary words, logical fallacies, circular reasoning & just plain sophistry the whole time – at such a phenonmenal rate, it would would take hours to just question, clarify, explain what’s wrong, & then refute them.

      I can see how he would be very appealing to intellectually sub-optimal men.

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      • Gezza

         /  July 10, 2018

        One philosopher who critiqued a work of his described him as “intoxicated with the eloquence of his own verbosity” 😀

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        • Blazer

           /  July 10, 2018

          been to the same school as Shane Jones ..then.

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        • Gezza

           /  July 10, 2018

          Jonesy could debate this guy & win. Just because he’d miss most of what Molyneux said & refute him with more effective irrelevance.

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        • MaureenW

           /  July 10, 2018

          Yes, I would agree that is sometimes true – still done mind some of the topics he covers nor would I describe anything I’ve seen him do as hate speech

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          • Gezza

             /  July 10, 2018

            Yes, he covers topics think need an airing & open discussion too. But from what I’ve seen of him so far I’d call him devious, cult leaderish, & he certainly seems to me to be misogynistic. He deliberately employs the tactic of confusing young questioners to throw them off track, make them think they’ve done something wrong, or are stupid, & then graciously rescues them with his answer. Dodgy, imo.

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            • MaureenW

               /  July 10, 2018

              Haven’t seen him operate in the environment you mention – usually monologues.

            • Gezza

               /  July 10, 2018

              It’s very subtle. He does it in his show call-ins.

      • David

         /  July 10, 2018

        “intellectually sub-optimal men”

        You made me chuckle with this one, that definition would include almost all men.

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  7. David

     /  July 10, 2018

    Golriz Ghahraman fails to understand free speech.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  July 10, 2018

      Unfortunately that is far from the only thing she doesn’t understand, David.

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    • Quite. I commented on this in the earlier post about Bridges etc. Any restriction on Free Speech turns it into Permitted Speech, which is not free; and never for the benefit of the People. The woman is a fool, or has an agenda. Maybe both.

      How about Marama Davidson trumpeting about “using our free speech” to prevent the free speech of others. It beggars belief.

      This is a very serious issue. Free Speech is the absolute bedrock of a civilised society, and I could cry when I see it being hunted down and destroyed by the State Police in my old country of Britain, once the envy of the world for such a thing. We must not let it happen here. Even the slightest chink on some spurious ground of ‘hate speech’ must be fought tooth and nail, for there is only one direction in which it will continue. Better for a thousand to be upset than one be muzzled.

      But it is not about people being upset, is it? It is always, at root, about the restriction of knowledge, and invariably for nefarious reasons – usually to cover up some organisation’s unpleasant agenda.

      “Our gov must balance the right of right wing hate mongers against the greater interests of public safety in NZ” – which translates as: “The Government must bow to the demands of every black-shirted Liberal/Fascist mob that threatens civil disturbance whenever someone wants to say something that those who pull their strings disapprove of.”

      In a civilised society the black-shirted mob would be washed into the gutters with water cannon; and anyone who wants to say something would be allowed to do so. And the Government would be hunting down those who pull their strings, not old grannies clicking on Facebook links that criticise Islam, as the UK Police spends its time doing, while savage street violence rages around them.

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      • Blazer

         /  July 10, 2018

        free speech is like free trade…a fantasy…

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  July 10, 2018

          You mean it is a principle, B. Like freedom itself. Not something a socialist would support.

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  8. Gezza

     /  July 10, 2018

    Am watching the tv one documentary about four Pakistani girls who escaped from a violent father who brought them all to New Zealand to be forced to marry men they didn’t even know. It will be repeated on the Plus One channel @ 9.30 pm.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  July 10, 2018

      Sounds a good case for separating immigrant children from their parents.

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      • Gezza

         /  July 10, 2018

        Pretty bad. Horrible situation for them.

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        • Gezza

           /  July 10, 2018

          He made sure their mum didn’t come with them.

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          • Gezza

             /  July 10, 2018

            Oh – he decided he was going to send them back to Pakistan to marry their cousins. They are planning to escape from him.

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            • Gezza

               /  July 10, 2018

              And they did. Via Shakti & with help from teachers & friends. (CYFS wasn’t any use.) One of them even made school dux. Amazing girls.

  9. sorethumb

     /  July 10, 2018

    What about Section 61 of the Human Rights Act?

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  10. wooden goat

     /  July 10, 2018

    The latest news – visas for entry to NZ and Australia have now been granted to Southern (I don’t know the situation for Molyneux).

    The Free Speech Coalition has reached its target of $50k to mount a legal challenge to Goff and the Auckland City Council (surplus funds will go “into the kitty” to defend freedom of speech).

    I donated $50 to the cause.
    – wooden goat

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  11. Joanne

     /  July 14, 2018

    I want to see them talk. All Goof, sorry Goff is doing is creating the Streisand Effect. The more they want to suppress something, the more people will want to hear them. Thanks Goff, best free advertising you could have given them. Didn’t know a 120 pound little blond girl could be such a threat. I know she was banned from the UK too, the powers that be know that how powerful ideas are, can’t have us thinking for ourselves now can we?

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  12. Richard West

     /  July 14, 2018

    from the Southern Poverty Law Centre: By far the most disturbing aspect of his move to the far-right is his overt and sustained endorsement, promotion and amplification of scientific racism to his 650,000+ subscribers on YouTube, which has been delivered alongside apologism for Apartheid, the Transatlantic slave trade and the demonization of social justice leaders such as Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King, Jr. Molyneux now believes that non-white human beings (like the Pioneer Fund he singles out Hispanics and blacks) are racially and genetically inferior to whites and that this above all other factors explains the present and the past. I would not break bread with these nut jobs.

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