A fairly typical Kiwi thing – stepping up and doing what can be done in an emergencyh, but in this case a bit more than normal, saving someone’s life.
A hero called Mohammed
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Posted by Pete George on July 13, 2018
https://yournz.org/2018/07/13/a-hero-called-mohammed/
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High Flying Duck
/ July 13, 2018Ummmm….well done Mohammed?
Not sure what the point of this post is? As you say, fairly typical Kiwi thing to step up when emergencies happen. Do you usually post on such events, or is this post race or religion based?.
sorethumb
/ July 13, 2018Man bites dog story
Blazer
/ July 13, 2018‘Good work skipping over the life saving filler to get to the crux of the matter
High Flying Duck
/ July 13, 2018The difference is…I did.
MaureenW
/ July 13, 2018The point is that someone called “Mohammed” did something good but, unfortunately, this Mohammed doesn’t deserve being identified by a surname, as his christian identifies him sufficiently as a muslim.
Like I posted below, if the guys name had of been John, there would be no equivalent story written with this context.
thesailor
/ July 13, 2018I’m sure I don’t need to tell you what the point is.
Kitty Catkin
/ July 13, 2018There are stories like this in the paper quite often. X saving a life with CPR, pulling someone from a car, diving in to pull a drowning person out, helping to save people from fires…..
Mohamed is almost certainly a Muslim, but that has nothing to do with the fact that he happened to be the one who knew CPR.
sorethumb
/ July 13, 2018Mohammed redeems himself (a little).
Gezza
/ July 13, 2018For all you know, Mohammed is an agnostic or atheist. Keep it real.
Kitty Catkin
/ July 13, 2018I can’t believe that thumb is so mean-spirited.
To me, the point of the story is that someone knew CPR and did it, saving a life.His race and religion are irrelevant.
sorethumb
/ July 13, 2018I was viewing itt in the wider context of the place of Muslims in our society. Not purely on it’s merit.
Missy
/ July 13, 2018Well done to Mohammed for using his first aid training to save a life, and kudos to the CEO for recognising it.
MaureenW
/ July 13, 2018Just as well his name was not John, wouldn’t have been mentioned.
Gezza
/ July 13, 2018Well it probably would have. It just wouldn’t have been mentioned by PG.
Our Chief Legal Officer had a heart attack & was saved by CPR by a female board member, who was similarly publicly thanked & congratulated.
NOEL
/ July 13, 2018Oh grow up.
sorethumb
/ July 13, 2018A story like this is not seen at face value; it is contextual.
sorethumb
/ July 13, 2018i.e part of the wider argument over Muslim immigration. Listening to ex policeman on Nine to Noon about gang members. he said most looking for family etc but also come from shit circumstances. Key to it all though (and I knew a few gang members) is a culture that is outside and antagonistic to mainstream culture [ordinary fella’s like me were “bunnies”] .
Blazer
/ July 13, 2018Just Hisco earning his $4mil plus salary….what a wonderful guy.
High Flying Duck
/ July 13, 2018Good work skipping over the life saving filler to get to the crux of the matter – the tweeter’s salary.
Blazer
/ July 13, 2018thought he would be saying he was giving the hero a bonus out of his own pay in recognition.
Alan Wilkinson
/ July 13, 2018Seems ANZ NZ paid for staff CPR training. Well done management.
MaureenW
/ July 13, 2018Famous for being called Mohammed.
Doesn’t Mohammed have a surname, given that Mohammed is one of the most widely used names in the world, I would have thought his surname could have been used to differentiate this Mohammed from the 150 million odd other Mohammeds.
Gezza
/ July 13, 2018Good point. Lots of Americans think there are thousands of Mexicans & South Americans called Heysoos. Because they don’t name their kids Jesus like Latin Christians do.
Kitty Catkin
/ July 13, 2018We’d be none the wiser, and it gives the man some privacy. Everyone who knows him will know that it was him.
In this day of first names being used more than they ever were before, I see nothing odd about using the first name only.
Jesus in Spanish is pron. more or less (it’s hard to transcribe a sound, of course) as if the perthon thpeaking had a lithp.
Gezza
/ July 13, 2018Are you sure? I know Garcia is pronounced Garthia.
Kitty Catkin
/ July 13, 2018Well, it’s as close as I can get. It’s a sound that’s hard for a non-native speaker to imitate, like the name Ng in Chinese.
sorethumb
/ July 13, 2018and then there’s real life
sorethumb
/ July 13, 2018gas bottle man says:
“I’m just a dumb fella, but I can see that they are coming here because their place is overcrowded”
Paul Spoonley: “but, but, but: think of my career!?”
thesailor
/ July 13, 2018Didn’t understand a word of that. Is English not his first language?
Gezza
/ July 13, 2018What a pile of meaningless jargon-filled unrealistic shite from Singham. Immigrate – integrate & assimilate. You came here because you liked what you saw. Fit in.
sorethumb
/ July 13, 2018I think that is the thing. People have a mechanism that instantly categorizes people by race sex and age. Race signals coalitional alliances. However within society there are always factions and people diametrically opposed.If you find (say) an Asian on your side over another Pakeha then they are your coalition member. That’s why a black guy won a council seat (?) for an anti immigration party in Italy.
Gezza
/ July 13, 2018I think there is much less instantly categorising people by race than their was. I was struck by the number of black & other “coloured” people being interviewed by tv reporters during & after the Grenfell Towers disaster. N vey was all talkin just like any uvva Londiners, yeh? N vey n all e uvvers wiv em, wo’eva colour veer skin was, was in no doubt vey was Bri’ish, innit?
Gezza
/ July 13, 2018My point being, they had assimilated, probably 2nd generation from West Indian & other immigrants. They had the same accents & same issues as any, “working class”, ill-educated, younger people in London, but they sounded like Londoners, & identified, & were accepted, as culturally British.
sorethumb
/ July 13, 2018You still have to factor weighted dice
Previous studies have established that people encode the race of each individual they encounter, and do so via computational processes that appear to be both automatic and mandatory.
http://www.pnas.org/content/98/26/15387
Gezza
/ July 13, 2018No you don’t. It’s only when people associate different behaviours with skin colour they start to get wary. Kids are colour blind playing unless someone tells them there’s a difference.