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14 July 2018

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  1. Blazer

     /  July 14, 2018

    Mary Holm NZH…..friendly parasites ..biz as …usual…

    ‘Mum has a $30,000 one-year term deposit with the ANZ earning 3.4 per cent a year. It rolled over for reinvestment in early March 2018. Interest per quarter is $212 net of tax.

    The chap at the ANZ said we could break it and the normal payment term is 31 days for the deposit to be repaid. But if it was for personal hardship — that is, hospital fees — a quicker payment of a few days could be requested.

    But the fee charged to break the deposit will be 3 per cent of the investment — $900. More than the net interest received for the year.

    There is no negotiation of the fee, regardless of being a customer for many years or that the investment was automatically renewed and actually required minimal administration.

    My mum’s logic in having a short-term bank deposit was she could always get her money quickly for unexpected costs such as a private hospital. I certainly don’t think she was ever told about the cost to break the investment.’

  2. sorethumb

     /  July 14, 2018

    Knives out for Trotter – TS
    https://thestandard.org.nz/theres-no-such-thing-as-free-speech/

    The Arrogant Left
    Like Plato’s ring of invisibility, Marxist-Leninist ideology seemed to grant its adepts the power to sin with impunity. The rest of humanity were regarded as mere raw material – objects upon which they were free to work without ethical restraint. The crimes of their enemies were shrilly condemned, while those committed by their friends and allies were passed over in silence.

    This superior attitude was by no means restricted to the multitude of communist sects. If anything, it was even more pronounced among the radical followers of the so-called New Social Movements: Anti-Racism, Environmentalism, Feminism, Gay Rights. Like the heroes of the 1969 cult-movie Easy Rider, these “new” leftists saw themselves as an enlightened but despised minority trying to do right in a world populated overwhelmingly by the ignorant and hostile.

    Even today, this deep contempt for the majority remains clearly evident in the Left’s language. To question the ideology of Maori nationalism is to reveal oneself as a racist “redneck”. Working-class communities attempting to defend their jobs from the demands of environmentalists are dismissed as “feral” or “white trash”. The slightest challenge to the sacred precepts of Orthodox Feminism will provoke torrents of vitriolic abuse.

    http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2010/07/arrogant-left.html

    • Gezza

       /  July 14, 2018

      Ignoring the self-righteous diatribes against Southern & Molyneux, who in all likelihood were more interested in using Southern’s visa & council venue ban here to showcase for their alt-righty, paying, fan base the proof of their “truth” about just how despicably fascist all liberals & Democrats are – RedLogix is an impressive & thoughtful writer in that TS thread.

    • Nick Morris

       /  July 15, 2018

      That people are convinced that they are right, that others are wrong and even that contradiction of their views is illegitimate is hardly new, nor is it confined to the Left.

      It may be more common on the Left, only because that side of politics puts great emphasis on reflection and the promulgation of new, better ways to organize with the intention of creating a more just society.

      The Right who are usually more invested in the status quo, or even the promotion of what might honestly be termed a LESS just society, especially from the point of view of those who are disadvantaged by “the way things are”, has no such motivation.

      Nevertheless, that lack of interest in social advancement, does not seem to interfere in the ability of many of their advocates to evince a moral superiority.

      On the other hand, those who suspect they are morally on the wrong side of an argument, ethically if not viscerally, tend to express themselves more in anger and vitriol, equal in force to the Smugness of their opponents.

  3. Corky

     /  July 14, 2018

    Here’s an interesting article on a number of fronts. I found it interesting until this paragraph turned up.

    ”Former New Plymouth District Mayor, and self-confessed recovering racist, Andrew Judd says New Zealand’s racism stems from not having a sense of our own culture. ​”

    Anyway, here’s the article:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/small-business/105052222/Why-there-are-so-many-2-shops-in-New-Zealand

    • Nick Morris

       /  July 15, 2018

      It may not be the only source of racism, but the idea that everyone else is weird and we do things in a reasonable, logical, “normal” way is pretty widespread.

  4. lurcher1948

     /  July 14, 2018

    Poor OLD over the hill Nick Smith is recovering from having rat poison rubbed in his face,in Nelson…. it’s a shame his assailant looks far more normal than him…just saying
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/105427595/rose-renton-guilty-of-offensive-behaviour-after-poison-incident

    • Gezza

       /  July 14, 2018

      God that woman’s a twit.

      • lurcher1948

         /  July 14, 2018

        In your mind Gezza

        • Gezza

           /  July 14, 2018

          I don’t widh to seem rude, because it’s a Saturday. But I assure you, Lurch, after reading the article, that the twitteryreferred to is in HER mind. And who knows, possibly is even the reason that her co-conspiratorial offender husband is now her ex-husband? Just saying.

          • Gezza

             /  July 14, 2018

            *widh = wish

            • Nick Morris

               /  July 15, 2018

              Have no opinion on the people, or their faces. But if you start rubbing rat poison, or even purported rat poison on people, even for the “best of motives” you’ve already lost.

              Although I have a personal political dislike of Smith, for all sorts of reasons, I have no interest in defending these people.

              What they did was at best offensive and at worst counterproductive.

              If they had wanted to unseat the guy, they might have spent their time better getting the Left all behind the same candidate. The combination of the Left vote was about 2000 ahead of the National vote in Nelson. If they can do that next time Smith will be history. No bets on that happening.

              But we might start by finding a good candidate.

  5. lurcher1948

     /  July 14, 2018

    Donald Trump thinks he’s the greatest,orange is the new hated
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-lincoln-popular-poll_us_5b4823b8e4b0e7c958f9cc28

    • Nick Morris

       /  July 15, 2018

      The message is that the “Resistance” may disapprove of every single policy Trump puts in place and every word he says. But hate is certainly not the word.

      You have to respect, on some level, as an equal, someone you hate.
      The word is despise.

  6. lurcher1948

     /  July 14, 2018

    So David Farrar pirated and feels remorse will David Farrar as a righty like DPHA feel guilty parking in a handicap spot, DF being hard right he would have parked in a handicap space
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/07/kodi_no_go.html

  7. lurcher1948

     /  July 14, 2018

    One for Corky as PG notices he mentions me a lot and I’m pleasant talking about
    trumps homecoming Corky

    • Corky

       /  July 14, 2018

      No, I don’t mention you a lot. However, for a little R&R, I do reply to many of your comments.

      Now here’s a conundrum for you to work out, Lurchy:

      President Trumpy, the greatest President in American history, has stated he will have a one on one meeting with Putin. No one else will be in the room.

      How is that possible?

      • Nick Morris

         /  July 15, 2018

        If Russia and the USA make a deal and there is no one there in the forest to see it, did it really happen?

  8. lurcher1948

     /  July 14, 2018

    WOW insulting the Queen why didnt one of the GUTLESS pommie Queens home guard bayonet the orange freak, now that would be good tv

    • Corky

       /  July 14, 2018

      What has that to do with Putin and Trumpy in a room alone?

      Anyway, seeing we are off-topic. Did you see all those pale, spindly, limp-wristed snowflakes protesting against Trump? Foul mouthed and ignorant; they could hardly string a sentence together. Meanwhile Trump was in Scotland playing golf and abusing his neighbours 😄

      • Gezza

         /  July 14, 2018

        Giving the frequent misuse of Engish words, contradictory statements in the same sentence, & generally rambling public pronouncements & utterances of Trumpy, not really a great idea to charge anybody protesting about him with the lingustic crime of having difficulty stringing a sentence together.