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  1. Missy

     /  July 15, 2018

    I don’t agree with attacks like these and whoever did it should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, but surely there has to be a small sense that this is Karma…

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-44832948

    Needless to say Gerry Adams hasn’t been getting much sympathy, a few people have however provided names of IRA victims in response to social media posts.

    • Trevors_Elbow

       /  July 15, 2018

      Pity his grand kids were impacted. But Gerry Adams is not someone I feel any sympathy for at all…

    • Gezza

       /  July 15, 2018

      Hunt them down & prosectue them. Whichever side does it. The time for putting up with this shit is past.

    • Trevors_Elbow

       /  July 15, 2018

      Looks an impressive list, but how many of those charges are for offences by individuals years ago and before the inquisition was set up to go after Trump?

    • David

       /  July 15, 2018

      Out of that 191 how many are for collusion?

      • What’s the obsession with collusion?

        I thought the vitally important aspect of the Mueller inquiry was to see how much the Russian Government tried to interfere in and affect the outcome of the 2016 election.

        ‘Collusion’ is a side issue and is often used as a diversion from an alleged foreign attack on the core of the US democratic system.

      • Joe Bloggs

         /  July 15, 2018

        Some illuminating comments in this interview…

          • Joe Bloggs

             /  July 15, 2018

            Good luck with that.

          • Joe Bloggs

             /  July 15, 2018

            I’m curious why you’d even bother to make that comment about impeaching Rosenstein.

            Impeach the guy just after he’s brought a slew of new indictments against Russian Intelligence agents? That’ll go down well.

            Even if the House impeached Rosenstein, the Senate would never convict him. It takes a two-thirds majority to convict someone in a Senate impeachment trial and the Repugs hold a bare 51-49 majority, a majority they may well lose in November.

            This is just another transparent nunes/jordan/meadows attempt at a cover-up.

      • Joe Bloggs

         /  July 15, 2018

        @David, here’s a sniff of possible collusion from people with a little more nous than you and me, fella…

        [mueller’s latest indictment] actually moves the ball forward on possible collusion, which would likely take the legal form of criminal conspiracy, in important respects.

        First, while the indictment does not charge any American with specific criminal conduct, it does describe conduct by Americans that, depending on further factual development, raises potentially serious questions. The most striking example of this occurs in paragraph 43(a): “On or about August 15, 2016, the Conspirators, posing as Guccifer 2.0, received a request for stolen documents from a candidate for the U.S. Congress. The Conspirators responded using the Guccifer 2.0 persona and sent the candidate stolen documents related to the candidate’s opponent.”

        Second, the indictment leaves open the possibility of conduct by Americans not described in this document. While the document does not allege any American who corresponded with these entities knew that they were part of the Russian conspiracy, it also does not say that they did not know or suspect these entities were part of a Russian operation. It leaves that question, about these actors and others, for another day. This document alleges that Americans—including at least one individual who was closely connected to the Trump campaign—had contact with the charged conspirators.

        Finally, the factual allegations in this document significantly improve the possibility of criminal conspiracy charges involving Americans. Until this action, there was little indication in the public record that the hacking operation persisted beyond the date the documents were released. … This indictment, by contrast, offers a potential factual breakthrough. It tells us that the prior factual premise was wrong: the alleged conduct violating the CFAA continued to occur throughout the summer of 2016. That affects the earlier analysis in two ways. First, it makes clear that the Russians did intend to release the information at the time the hacking occured. Second, and perhaps more important, the indictment alleges that the criminal hacking conspiracy was ongoing at the time individuals in the Trump campaign were in contact with charged and uncharged Russian conspirators, raising the possibility of more straightforward aiding and abetting liability.

        https://www.lawfareblog.com/russia-indictment-20-what-make-muellers-hacking-indictment

  2. More disarray in UK politics.

    What sort of twit in politics would think that sending sex texts was a good idea?

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  July 15, 2018

      Can’t beat the Brit politicians for sex scandals. The French just ignore theirs.

      • Gezza

         /  July 15, 2018

        Rubbish. The Americans more than give the Poms a run for their money these days.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  July 15, 2018

          No way. The Yanks just go after their staff and interns. The Brits are way past that into their electorate.

    • Missy

       /  July 15, 2018

      That is a minor story this morning Pete, hardly getting a passing mention.

  3. chrism56

     /  July 15, 2018

    Looks like the “great” anti-Trump blimp failed to make an impact

    I saw bigger crowds at my kids school fair days – they were never reported in the papers though.
    Yet again, a big promise that failed to deliver.

    • Thousands of Trump supporters and other right-wing activists took to the nation’s capital on Saturday — a day after anti-Trump protesters had dominated the city.

      The day started with a small pro-Trump rally outside the U.S. Embassy, featuring numerous red “MAGA” hats and U.S. and U.K. flags — as well as a few anti-Hillary Clinton shirts.

      Later, approximately 3,000 people turned out near Trafalgar Square to show their backing of Trump as well as jailed right-wing and anti-Islam activist Tommy Robinson.

      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/14/trump-supporters-turn-out-in-london-day-after-protests.html

    • Gezza

       /  July 15, 2018

      It was actually really just a mildly oversized balloon. I was expecting a decent-sized blimp. I’m annoyed that the Khan Blimp seems to have never materialised & wasn’t flown as well. Hope the money reportedly raised went to a good cause.

      • Missy

         /  July 15, 2018

        They never planned to fly the Khan Blimp on the same day as they haven’t designed/made it yet, and have to get council approval.

        The organisers are going to Council this week with their proposal, and are hoping for the approval to be given.

        On that, they have raised over 50,000 pounds for it.

        • Gezza

           /  July 15, 2018

          WHAT ! 😡

          By now they should have had a manufacturer already signed up & a blimp designed & ready to bloody go ! Whatever the Mayor decides.

          So much for the efficiency of private bloody enterprise ! 🙄

          • Missy

             /  July 15, 2018

            They only began the fundraising and came up with the idea a week ago (or just over) and they are students….

          • Gezza

             /  July 15, 2018

            If I were coordinating this plan, I would also also have a manufactuer on standby with to produce a number of Khan Baby balloons that are a bit smaller, but still larger than normal, so as not to able to be claimed to represent an aviation hazard to be attached to things like lamp posts, building flagpoles & other protuberances, & trees.

            • Gezza

               /  July 15, 2018

              *on standby ready to produce
              Students schmudents – get networking with the donors.

    • Corky

       /  July 15, 2018

      Little people. Little intellect. Little spirit…Little Blimp.

    • chrism56

       /  July 15, 2018

      Greenland’s snowpack isn’t melting so all these birds are dying.
      https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/late-snowpack-signals-a-lost-summer-for-greenlands-shorebirds/
      Sounds like it is a lot colder there than people are lead to believe. But its only weather, right?

      • Griff

         /  July 15, 2018

        Senner fears this nonbreeding year in eastern Greenland could herald an alarming trend. Climate models predict the Arctic atmosphere will hold more moisture as global temperatures rise, he notes. A wetter atmosphere means more snow in winter and spring, potentially causing late snowmelt to interfere with shorebird reproduction. He says the bird populations should be resilient to a single poor breeding year like 2018 but worries what might happen if this year’s catastrophe becomes standard.

        https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/late-snowpack-signals-a-lost-summer-for-
        greenlands-shorebirds/
        Cold air holds little moisture.
        Higher temperatures in winter and spring results in more snowfall which takes longer to meltout in early summer .

        How warm was it this winter in Greenland?
        Freakishly Warm Weather in the Arctic Has Climate Scientists ‘Stunned’
        https://www.livescience.com › Planet Earth
        Feb 26, 2018 – But this year, the Arctic is experiencing a highly unusual heat wave. On Feb. 20, the temperature in Greenland not only climbed above freezing — 32 degrees F (0 degrees C) — it stayed there for over 24 hours, according to data from the Danish Meteorological Institute. And on Saturday (Feb. 24) the temperature on Greenland’s northern tip reached 43 degrees F (6 degrees C), leading climate scientists to describe the phenomenon on Twitter as “crazy,” “weird,” “scary stuff” and “simply shocking.”

        • chrism56

           /  July 15, 2018

          You have to learn to stop cutting and pasting Griff. It just shows your incompetence.
          How much moisture does the air hold at say 260K? How much different is it to what is in the air at say 250K? Then you will know that what you wrote is just shit.
          You commentary doesn’t match the plot you so helpfully provided. Day 57, the peak was -10°C. And as you know where the temperature plots are, go back and look at the say 1976 plot – what is different?

          • Griff

             /  July 15, 2018

            The Arctic is experiencing a highly unusual heat wave.

            The plot is for the entire Arctic 80 + north from DMI.
            The cutnpaste from livescience is talking specifically about high Greenland temps. Link here.
            https://www.livescience.com/61864-arctic-temperatures-record-high.html

            The one talking shite is you as usual my poor ignorant friend .

            See how the curve tells us the warmer air is the more moisture it can hold.
            This holds true even below zero. Basic well known Physics that is also included in climate models obviously. Warmer temperatures means the air can hold more moisture. Warmer air holding more water vapor gives more snowfall.
            It was usually warm in the arctic last winter which resulted in more snowpack in Greenland.
            More snowfall means it takes longer to meltout in early summer.

            As usual you are proven to be gibbering nonsense .

          • chrism56

             /  July 16, 2018

            I know what the plot was – you were the idiot for pasting it in – It was irrelevant to the Greenland temperature, so as usual for you, your brilliance was overshadowed by your stupidity.. And the fact that you didn’t comment meant that there wasn’t a difference between 76 and 18 – another black mark in the intellectual stakes.
            You are now claiming there was more snowpack where as a month or so ago, all the ice was melting away – what is it but the consistency or facts were never your strongpoint were they? The original report reference a climate model done using the impossible 8.5W/m2 rise and that said their would be more rain not snow, and it would accelerate snow and ice melt.
            I never doubted that warm air holds more moisture – I asked how much.
            It was not unusually warm in the Arctic last winter – at least not according to the Danish. They have measured those hot spells (it lasted about 3 days in southern Greenland then plummeted back to normal, didn’t it) before, having over 120 years of records, And Greenland hasn’t got as hot as it did in the 30s
            https://rmets.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/joc.852

            • Griff

               /  July 16, 2018

              I pointed out Greenland had some very hot temperatures this winter and spring.
              This resulted in more snow fall.
              Your first link says the same thing.
              You are now linking to a 16 year old paper to dispute it was hot in Greenland in winter and spring 2017 /2018. That’s not just stupid its moronic.
              Thanks for confirming you do not even know how we measure time.
              Warm air holds more moisture About 7% more for every 1C.
              That is about double the moisture for every ten C.
              For temperatures under 0C that extra moisture falls as ice or snow.
              As to the rest of your gibbering.
              Fuck knows what you are on about .

              ps Its warming in the arctic.

            • chrism56

               /  July 16, 2018

              Back to being a teenage girl I see.
              BEST aren’t Greenland temperatures. They get the data from DMI and modify it.
              Here are the current temps
              http://polarportal.dk/en/weather/nbsp/current-weather/

            • Griff

               /  July 16, 2018

              BEST Greenland temperatures aren’t Greenland temperatures.
              gibber gibber gibber .
              Poor one plus one .
              Here is what your link says

              Late Snowpack Signals a Lost Summer for Greenland’s Shorebirds

              Sanderlings, red knots and ruddy turnstones failed to breed this year along the Arctic island’s east coast due to record snow cover…..
              Climatic challenges like late snowmelt in their breeding grounds only compound the birds’ plight….
              …..
              Senner fears this nonbreeding year in eastern Greenland could herald an alarming trend. Climate models predict the Arctic atmosphere will hold more moisture as global temperatures rise, he notes. A wetter atmosphere means more snow in winter and spring, potentially causing late snowmelt to interfere with shorebird reproduction.

              We have spent days debating it and you still not admit what your own fuckin link says
              That is measurable insane .
              Like your last effort when you claimed the fact that ice breakers had to work in the arctic proved the northern passages were not open.
              When the passages are not expected to be open for another two months when the ice melt gets to its minimum. You then claimed that the lack of melt sea ice melt proves ice melt is not causing sea level to rise when sea ice melt does not effect sea level.
              Or the paper you claimed said ice melt was no more than in the thirty’s
              when it actually said it was twice that in the thirty’s . You then rejected a paper based on actual sea ice measurements for one based on adjusted land temperatures as a proxie for sea ice that still showed declining ice .
              Soo funny to see how contorted you get to keep your faith science is wrong about greenhouse gasses and global warming.

            • chrism56

               /  July 17, 2018

              You are regressing
              From here
              https://www.the-cryosphere.net/11/1591/2017/tc-11-1591-2017.pdf

              there is this: “.Biases vary by season and by region of the ice sheet: in the ablation region (demarcated here by the 1500m elevation contour) during summer, most reanalyses have a∼1◦C positive bias(though 20CRv2c and ERA–20C have negative biases) while CRU and Berkeley Earth gridded SAT analyses have larger positive biases. ”
              So the peer reviewed literature says I’m right and you are wrong – how unusual.

            • Griff

               /  July 17, 2018

              ROFL
              The debate is not about long term trends in temperature ‘the debate is over the recent record warm spell and snow fall .
              Again your link does not include the resent years under question neither does it look at individual record temperatures.
              The paper even says the data sets that give the thirty’s as warmer are not as accurate.

              in particular, 20CRv2c shows
              stronger cooling between 1930 and 1990 than most other
              datasets, and has a 1930s warm period warmer than the 21st
              century warm period. Such discrepancies between 20CRv2c
              and anomaly based SAT datasets have been noted at the global scale by Compo et al. (2013), although the differences
              here are much greater than those for global SAT. Similarity
              of anomalies among gridded SAT analyses and ERA–20C,
              along with the greater temporal constancy of their biases,
              leads us to put greater faith in their representation of long
              term trends and inter-decadal variability.

              You are not even wrong.
              Lick lick.
              Your sources for your confusion will be some wingnut site that relies on the gullibility of its audience to spread FUD.

          • chrism56

             /  July 16, 2018

            About the name calling Griff – you are back in projection mode.
            The original article was about birds in SE Greenland not being able to nest because the snow didn’t melt. Which I note, still hasn’t. You then posted a graph of the temperatures of the Arctic above 80°N – How much of SE Greenland is in that zone – Doh!. You the rabbitted on about the February heatwave – well guess what – it didn’t register in the snow melt graph. http://www.dmi.dk/uploads/tx_dmidatastore/webservice/e/n/i/b/m/Melt_combine.png so another failure.
            Greenland wasn’t unusually warm last winter – look at the rest of the DMI graphs so three out of three wrong.
            The actual difference in moisture in air at 100%RH between 250 and 260K is about 1g per cubic metre but that is only at sea level. the weight drops rapidly with altitude and moist air rises. How much snow would that make?
            I put the Greenland paper in because that is peer reviewed literature, the supposed gold standard. It hasn’t had the “corrections” that the stuff used by you has. The DMI database shows the same thing and that is current.
            http://www.dmi.dk/index.php?eID=tx_cms_showpic&file=uploads%2Fpics%2Fdk2015_side2_eng.png&md5=4eba6da995a8af858eca73572dd49659830231cf&parameters%5B0%5D=YTo0OntzOjU6IndpZHRoIjtzOjQ6IjgwMG0iO3M6NjoiaGVpZ2h0IjtzOjQ6IjYw&parameters%5B1%5D=MG0iO3M6NzoiYm9keVRhZyI7czo0MToiPGJvZHkgc3R5bGU9Im1hcmdpbjowOyBi&parameters%5B2%5D=YWNrZ3JvdW5kOiNmZmY7Ij4iO3M6NDoid3JhcCI7czozNzoiPGEgaHJlZj0iamF2&parameters%5B3%5D=YXNjcmlwdDpjbG9zZSgpOyI%2BIHwgPC9hPiI7fQ%3D%3D
            Where is your reference?
            You have to stop getting your information from a cartoonists website – it makes you look almost as big a fool as Mr Cook.

            • Griff

               /  July 16, 2018

              ROFL
              You are all over the place
              are you doing acid ?
              Because that all i can think of for your random comments .

              . You the rabbitted on about the February heatwave – well guess what – it didn’t register in the snow melt graph

              well Duh
              I said nothing about melt thats in your deluded mind.
              To quote myself
              I pointed out Greenland had some very hot temperatures this winter and spring.
              This resulted in more snow fall.

              You link to annul temps to 2015
              What the fuck has that got to do with winter spring 2017/2018?

              The actual difference in moisture in air at 100%RH between 250 and 260K is about 1g per cubic metre but that is only at sea level. the weight drops rapidly with altitude and moist air rises. How much snow would that make?

              The deference between 250k and 260k is twice the moisture hence twice the snowfall potential . The rest is nonsense.

              You have made a lot of claims but totally failed to link to any proof or even make a rational argument
              .This is the bit that proves you are unable to even read your links .
              Sub heading from your original link .
              Sanderlings, red knots and ruddy turnstones failed to breed this year along the Arctic island’s east coast due to record snow cover
              It says noting about a cold summer.

              By the way AOR the sk sc thing is another of your delusions.

            • Griff

               /  July 16, 2018

              Here is up to date Greenland temperatures..
              http://berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/auto/Regional/TAVG/Figures/greenland-TAVG-Trend.pdf
              What you talk shite .
              How surprising .

    • MaureenW

       /  July 15, 2018

      What a surprise with her foot-dragging – the sooner she’s rolled, the better

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 15, 2018

        A compromising compromise PM.

    • Missy

       /  July 15, 2018

      There are a lot of threats coming out against MPs that have openly criticised the Chequers plan, mostly they are being told if they don’t stand with May there will be no Brexit.

      Many are saying that this is what she wants, she never wanted Brexit, and this way she can blame the Brexit MPs for the failure of Brexit.

      The problem is that if she goes this route she will irreparably damage the Conservative Party, some are suggesting it will be worse than 1997.

      • Blazer

         /  July 16, 2018

        ‘some are suggesting it will be worse than 1997.’…lets hope..so.

  4. Too busy trying to protect themselves against immigrants and Muslims and in denial about a real attack on their democracy.

    • Corky

       /  July 15, 2018

      The thing is, Pete. If congress had given Trumpy what he wanted in the first place, the Muslim problem wouldn’t be a problem. The same goes for Mexicans.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  July 15, 2018

      The real attack on democracy apparently occurred under Obama’s watch.

    • Gezza

       /  July 15, 2018

      They have built a nation & developed its unique national culture. They have a right to now prevent unwanted, uncontrolled, illegal immigration, & to decide who should be allowed to join their nation & society.

  5. Missy

     /  July 15, 2018

    Tomorrow in House of Commons Boris Johnson will be giving his resignation speech, it is rumoured that he is being encouraged to use it to launch a leadership bid.

    The reports are that the Chairman of the 1922 Committee is only 8 letters away from forcing a confidence vote in the PM.

    The next couple of days will be crucial for the PM.

    • Gezza

       /  July 15, 2018

      The bread’s already being sliced, isn’t it? The toaster’s already plugged in, by the sound of it.

      • Missy

         /  July 15, 2018

        Yep, though I think the bread going in will be delayed until after Boris’s speech, and it is possible they may unplug the toaster until after summer recess. My view is that the summer recess is the time to do a leadership election and have it done and dusted before the next meeting with the EU.

  6. Missy

     /  July 15, 2018

    Okay Night Owls, if you want the opportunity to ask Steve Bannon a question on anything he will be on LBC radio with Nigel Farage this morning. The lines are being opened up from 1100 BST after Nigel’s interview with him.

    • Missy

       /  July 15, 2018

      you should be able to listen on lbc.co.uk

      • Gezza

         /  July 15, 2018

        Nup. I quite like Nige, but I can’t stand Bannon.

        • Missy

           /  July 15, 2018

          No what you mean. Though it will be interesting what questions are put to Bannon, and how many may be more than a little uncomfortable for him.