Trump backs Putin over US intelligence on Russian interference in US elections

There has been widespread shock and condemnation after Donald Trump accepted Vladimir Putin’s word that Russia did not intefer in the US election in 2016. This is contrary to the views of the entire US intelligence community and most US politicians.

Fox News: Trump blasts Mueller probe, Putin denies meddling as leaders tout summit as ‘success’

President Trump and Vladimir Putin tackled allegations of election meddling in unprecedented terms following their one-on-one summit Monday, with Trump opening the door to an unusual offer of cooperation in the special counsel probe and the Russian president suggesting he indeed favored the billionaire businessman in 2016.

But Putin, emphatically and repeatedly, denied meddling in the U.S. election, saying there’s “no evidence.” And Trump, while saying they spent a “great deal of time” discussing the allegations, blasted the ongoing probe as a “disaster for our country.”

The two leaders spoke at a freewheeling joint press conference following a pair of meetings — one private — in Helsinki, Finland. Trump and Putin both touted the summit as a success, vowing to improve ties on a range of issues.

“I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace than to risk peace in pursuit of politics,” Trump declared.

NY Post: Trump refuses to accuse Putin of election meddling

President Donald Trump on Monday refused to accuse Vladimir Putin and Russia of interfering in the US election after their one-on-one sitdown in Finland.

Asked directly if he believed Putin or his own intelligence community, which concluded that the Russians were behind the hacking and other interference, the president did not directly answer.

“I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today,” he said as Putin stood several feet away.

Trump then said he saw no reason why Russia would interfere in America’s elections.

Putin, meanwhile, admitted he had been rooting for Trump to beat Hillary Clinton.

“Yes, I did, yes I did, because he talked about bringing US-Russia relations back to normal,” Putin said.

Trump also praised the Russian strongman for offering to help special counsel Robert Mueller’s team investigate the well-documented Russian meddling. “And what he did is an incredible offer. He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators. I think that’s an incredible offer,” he said.

Trump then launched a stunning series of political attacks on Democrats and Clinton while standing on foreign soil — and suggested that he believed Putin’s denials.

“So let me just say that we have two thoughts. You have groups that are wondering why the FBI never took the server, why haven’t they taken the server. Why was the FBI told to leave the office of the Democratic National Committee. I’ve been wondering that. I’ve been asking that for months and months and I’ve been tweeting it out and calling it out on social media. Where is the server? I want to know where is the server and what is the server saying?” the commander-in-chief said.

“What happened to Hillary Clinton’s emails, 33,000 emails gone, just gone. I think in Russia, they wouldn’t be gone so easily. I think it’s a disgrace that we can’t get Hillary Clinton’s 33,000 emails.”

He also said the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election was poisoning relations between the US and Russia.

“It’s kept us separated. There was no collusion at all. Everybody knows it. People are being brought out to the fore. Virtually, none of it related to the campaign,” he said.

Trump then defended his campaign and hailed his surprise victory.

“They will have to try really hard to find something that did relate to the campaign. That was a clean campaign. I beat Hillary Clinton easily and, frankly, we beat her and I’m not even saying from the standpoint, we won that race,” he continued.

Fox News – Media slams Trump following Putin summit: ‘One of the most disgraceful performances by an American president’

The media came down hard on President Trump following Monday’s joint press conference in Helsinki with Russian President Vladimir Putin, with pundits and anchors on both sides of the political aisle bashing the American leader’s performance.

Trump was primarily criticized for the way he handled questions about allegations of Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S., claims that have been paired with allegations Russia and the Trump campaign colluded to win the election. Trump said he raised the issue of election meddling during their one-on-one meeting prior to the press conference, but ripped Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe during the news conference, declaring there was “no collusion.”

Trump also passed on a chance to side with the American intelligence community, which claims Moscow meddled in the election.

Associated Press reporter Jonathan Lemire and Reuters White House correspondent Jeff Mason were both praised by journalists for asking tough questions, but Trump’s answers drew scorn.

“Trump, finally asked whom he believes on Russia interference, gives a vague and rambling non-answer, with renewed complaints about Hillary’s server. Says he trusts US intel but made clear he takes Putin’s denials seriously. Lame response, to say the least,” Fox News’ Brit Hume tweeted.

NBC News’ online headline said Trump’s performance “advances conspiracy theories,” pointing to him bringing up 33,000 Hillary Clinton emails that the president said are missing.

CNN’s Anderson Cooper called it “perhaps one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president” immediately after the press conference. Cooper’s name immediately began trending on Twitter after making the comment, which resulted in a variety of media members agreeing with the CNN star.

Former CIA John Brennan:

Reuters – U.S. Rep. Schiff: Trump comments give Putin OK on 2018 interference

The top Democrat on the U.S. House of Representatives intelligence panel said President Donald Trump’s comments in Helsinki on Monday essentially gave Russian President Vladimir Putin permission to interfere in November’s midterm election.

“President Trump just attacked our intelligence agencies and law enforcement for doing their jobs while standing next to a dictator who intervened in our election to help elect Trump. Putin will take this as a green light to interfere in 2018, and it is. Cowardly and shameful.”

It’s hard to find support or praise of Trump’s post-summit performance, but Rush Limbaugh manages to go against the flow: Comedy Gold As American Journalists Beclown Themselves

Hey, folks, parts of this joint press conference here between Trump and Putin were comedy gold. Parts of this press conference were some of the funniest stuff that’s been on American television since Trump was elected. I mean, I have been laughing myself silly. I don’t laugh out loud much watching television anymore. It’s a sad reality, but watching TV does not make any laugh anymore. But I have been laughing out loud — uncontrollably at times — watching this joint presser. What makes it is that the United States media regularly beclowns itself, makes fools of themselves because they really have it in their heads…

I don’t know what to make of it. I don’t know if they really do believe that Trump and Putin colluded to steal the election, if they’ve been reporting that for so long that they actually now believe it. Because even with Mueller, there isn’t any evidence of it. Which reminds me, Mueller’s indictment… Wait ’til you hear what the Drive-Bys are trying to do with this indictment! It is craziest thing! It is laughable, because our media has become a collective joke.

That sounds like a manic sort of defence of Trump, resorting to the old ‘attack the media’ approach with a few conspiracy theories thrown in.

BBC: Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit

US President Donald Trump has defended Russia over claims of interference in the 2016 presidential election.

After face-to-face talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Mr Trump contradicted US intelligence agencies and said there had been no reason for Russia to meddle in the vote.

Mr Putin reiterated that Russia had never interfered in US affairs.

The two men held nearly two hours of closed-door talks in the Finnish capital Helsinki on Monday.

At a news conference after the summit, President Trump was asked if he believed his own intelligence agencies or the Russian president when it came to the allegations of meddling in the elections.

“President Putin says it’s not Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be,” he replied.

US intelligence agencies concluded in 2016 that Russia was behind an effort to tip the scale of the US election against Hillary Clinton, with a state-authorised campaign of cyber attacks and fake news stories planted on social media.

In a strongly-worded statement, US House Speaker Paul Ryan said Mr Trump “must appreciate that Russia is not our ally”.

“There is no moral equivalence between the United States and Russia, which remains hostile to our most basic values and ideals,” he said, adding that there was “no question” Moscow had interfered in the 2016 election.

“The United States must be focused on holding Russia accountable and putting an end to its vile attacks on democracy.”

Senior Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said Mr Trump had sent the Kremlin a message of US “weakness”.

He tweeted: “Missed opportunity by President Trump to firmly hold Russia accountable for 2016 meddling and deliver a strong warning regarding future elections.”

Fellow Republican Senator Jeff Flake – a staunch critic of President Trump – called his words “shameful”.

Trump succeeded in dominating the headlines, but he has been dominated by Putin and savaged by most in the USA. Including the Director of National Intelligence.

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124 Comments

  1. lurcher1948

     /  July 17, 2018

    Bad things happen to traitors,remember that trump

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  2. Trevors_elbow

     /  July 17, 2018

    Queue Joe Bloggs.
    .. let’s add this to the timeline Joe

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  July 17, 2018

      I believe the expression is cue Joe Bloggs.

      I don’t queue for any elbow.

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      • Trevors_Elbow

         /  July 17, 2018

        NO Joe I meant QUEUE… as in you would queue up multiple anti Trump comments and go on your normal Trump is Evil long rant… keep smiling Joe not long till the next presidential primaries and maybe trump will be deselected by his own party and the Dem’s will sweep back into power!

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        • Joe Bloggs

           /  July 17, 2018

          well in that case let me QUEUE this one up just for you…

          and trump’s response to Butina’s question about sanctions:
          “I know Putin and I tell you what, we get along with Putin…I don’t think that you need the sanctions and i think we would get along very, very well.”

          Here’s a CLUEUE for you – trump and his team are deeply compromised, in terms of having negotiated foreign policy promises with putin (or putin’s stand-ins) prior to the election. And trump also knows what putin was responsible for having authorized in order to secure the benefits of those negotiations – to whit, helping fix the results of the 3016 presidential election.

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  4. Patzcuaro

     /  July 17, 2018
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  5. David

     /  July 17, 2018

    Be good to actually see some evidence that Russia did hack the DNC server and Trump has a point that despite being asked for it many times the DNC wouldnt hand it over to the FBI. Podesta,s password was password for goodness sake.
    Wikilieaks deny it was anyone associated with the Russian government. I dont know it could be like the bloke poisoned in the UK we still dont have any proof it was the Russian government..its all a bit ambiguous.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  July 17, 2018

      Didn’t seem so much of a supplicant last week when he lambasted Germany for depending on Russian gas supplies.

      Media have short, self-serving memories don’t they?

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      • I think it is Trump’s memory that is short.

        He has repeatedly contradicted himself on his trip to Europe. Different messages to different audiences. Impossible to be sure where he stands, except beside Putin.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  July 17, 2018

          Increased sanctions against Russia are a strange way to stand beside it.

          Trump is realistic. He knows both countries were trying to sabotage each other.

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    • David

       /  July 17, 2018

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  7. Alan Wilkinson

     /  July 17, 2018

    What on earth did you expect? Mueller and the intel agencies clearly set out to sabotage Trump’s meeting with Putin by issuing their Russian indictments immediately before it so Trump has turned on them.

    Inevitable.

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  July 17, 2018

      trump was well briefed a week before the indictments were announced.

      So there you have it. Asked to choose between Putin’s verbal reassurances (a former KGB operative who has lied about every offensive cyberoperation against the West) and the detailed reports of U.S. intelligence agencies along with the repeated testimony of his own entire national security team, trump chose the Russian spy.

      Inevitable.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 17, 2018

        Putin wanted Trump to win and the intel agencies wanted him to lose – and vowed to “stop him”.

        More fool them.

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        • Joe Bloggs

           /  July 17, 2018

          So Strzok texts his mistress and you turn it into an inter-agency conspiracy
          while
          trump called for the Russians to hack clinton’s emails and you dismissed it at the time as a joke

          More fool you.

          If the intel agencies really wanted trump to lose all they had to do was announce in the final run-up to the US elections that the Russians were hacking the elections. Instead comey moved against clinton.

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  8. Patzcuaro

     /  July 17, 2018
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  10. Joe Bloggs

     /  July 17, 2018

    Announcements overnight that another Russian’s been indicted.

    Maria Butina, Russian pro-gun lobbyist with links to the NRA, charged with conspiracy to act as a Russian agent (spying) in the US for her Moscow boss.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/russian-national-charged-conspiracy-act-agent-russian-federation-within-united-states

    Inevitable.

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  July 17, 2018

      From the Butina affidavit in support of indictment and using context from the affidavit ( which describes Butina’s efforts on behalf of a Russian govt official to influence American politicians through coordination with a domestic gun rights organization, presumably the NRA) here’s what Butina’s American counterpart committed to writing in October 2016:

      “I’ve been involved in securing a VERY private line of communication between the Kremlin and key Republican leaders through, of all conduits, the NRA.” (emphasis in original)
      https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1080766/download

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  11. Gezza

     /  July 17, 2018

    I watched their 1st “sit down” conference with the press before they headed off fir their 1st meeting – the private one – live on Aljaz tv late last nite.

    Trump was doing most of the blithering on. Putesie’s had his usual blank, unemotional, poker face on the whole time, & you could see the cogs turning as he listened to all his virtues being extolled. Putsie doesn’t ever really react much to his ego being stroked: he’s got plenty of self-esteem & all the power & authority he wants. He’s often seen having a little smirky smile though. He kept that under control.

    I’m sure he’s busy massaging Trumpy’s hungry little-boy ego though.

    The handshake Trump reached out & offered at the end was a firm but brief one, such as good blokes do, & Trump didn’t try his old ‘hang on & wrestle’ trick.

    Putsie’s very happy with how things went, I’m sure. Russian ‘ceasefires’ in Syria & ‘non-interference’ in Ukraine are probably the best guides to his trustworthiness.

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  12. duperez

     /  July 17, 2018

    The complexity and nuances of international relationships and politics might be beyond us all and beyond what most of us will ever have to deal with. Like most things in life we want it all minimised, to be able to be put into (no pun intended) simple, simple words.

    Sort of like Guyon Espiner trying to plant, quickly grow and pop out of Winston Peters this morning, the headline for the day, “Peters Slams Trump.”

    And like saying “Trump is a child”.

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    • duperez

       /  July 17, 2018

      Or a Genius.🙃

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      • Gezza

         /  July 17, 2018

        Or a Stable – full of horseshit.

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        • Genius has several meanings, as it’s from the Latin word meaning to beget.

          So when Trump calls himself a stable genius, he could just mean the type of thing found in a stable….as Gezza says.

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  13. Gezza

     /  July 17, 2018

    I love the names Americans use – Newt, Wolf, Rush … that last one, Rush Limbaugh – pretty much describes the guy’s reporting & commenting style

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    • Why would anyone call their child Newt or Rush ?

      Especially NEWT.

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      • Then there’s Mitt.

        I hope that Jeff Flake doesn’t marry a Miss Cadbury. I must say that I would call myself Lake if my name was Flake.

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        • Gezza

           /  July 17, 2018

          “The meaning of the name Mitt is a Diminutive Form Of Milton. The origin of the name Mitt is American. … (Willard) Mitt Romney, U.S. Politician. Named after a relative, Milton Romney, whose nickname was Mitt.”

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      • Gezza

         /  July 17, 2018

        Newt, I discovered, is short for Newton, but Gingrich seemed to like Newt & everyone used it. There may be some similar backstory for the other two’s names, but they happily use those weird ones.

        I mean, who’d called someone Tucker, then watch him grow up to turn into Fox Tucker?

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    • Corky

       /  July 17, 2018

      God bless the American name.

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      • Gezza

         /  July 17, 2018

        I can’t say I like all the Baracks.

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        • I guessed that Newt had to be Newton, but wouldn’t have known that Mitt was Milton. And I can’t understand why adults want to be known as Mitt or Newt when these names have literal meanings. A lot of Americans abroad must have had their faces slapped when they introduced themselves by saying ‘Hello, I’m Randy.’

          A US televangelist is called Dutch Sheets.

          Dog Tucker would be a lot worse than Fox Tucker.

          There was a writer called John Thomas Loney. He always used both names and never changed the pronunciation of Loney (the correct pronuciation of Loney is Loony)

          There are/were a Dr Crippen and a Judge Jeffreys in NZ. Both must have tired of people saying it.

          I knew a Canon Ball, an Anglican clergyman who always said that they promoted him to Canon because of his name.

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          • Gezza

             /  July 17, 2018

            Tucker Carlson is a right wing presenter on Fox TV channel.
            There’s no Dog TV as far as I know.

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            • Oh….I thought that Fox Tucker was someone’s name. I had never heard of Tucker Carlson.

            • Would you be worried if you were charged with something and appeared before Judge Jeffreys ?

              I would 😀 😀 😀

            • Gezza

               /  July 17, 2018

              These days? Only in America.

              Wouldn’t really bother me. The Hanging Judge was Jefferies, wasn’t he? 😳

          • Griff

             /  July 17, 2018

            I meet a woman last week called Gay Pride .
            Pride being her husbands name .

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            • Oh, poor girl !

              I met a Shirley Shirley,, and a friend knows a couple called Arthur and Martha. That’s the second time I have come across an Arthur and Martha.

              Why anyone would call their child Nothing ( rien is French for nothing) is a real mystery. I’d change to Irene if my parents had been so ignorant or sadistic.

  14. Blazer

     /  July 17, 2018

    anyone got a simple explanation of exactly what Russia allegedly did to influence the U.S elections?

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    • Griff

       /  July 17, 2018

      How Russia used social media to divide Americans | US news | The …
      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/…/russia-us-politics-social-media-faceboo…

      Oct 14, 2017 – How Russia used social media to divide Americans … “The broader Russian strategy is pretty clearly about destabilizing the country by …. Those voters could then be targeted with political content that appealed to some of …

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      • Blazer

         /  July 17, 2018

        so a subtle propaganda campaign that is only different from the strategies used since WW2, in that it utilises social media and technology.

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    • David

       /  July 17, 2018

      I am with you Blazer for once the best they can come up with is some Facebook adverts against 1.5 billion spent by the campaigns.
      Meanwhile everyone ignores the sanctions put on Russia, Trumps attempt to kill the German pipeline deal, his push for more cash for NATO, his bombing of Syria and the 300 Russian mercs killed, Clinton approving Uranium 1, Billys huge speaking fees in Russia, the Podesta connection to Russia, Obamas off mic promise to work with Russia after the election, Hilary,s Russian reset and finally if the Russians were interfering in the election why didnt Obama,s spooks stop it if they knew all about it.

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  15. Zedd

     /  July 17, 2018

    where does POWER really lie ?

    body language speaks much louder than MrTs constant inane prattling.. he seems more intent on aligning himself with the extreme ‘global circle of wealth & power’.. unadulterated self-interest !

    a Rothschild once said (paraphrased) ‘Give me control of the money & I could care less about the politics’.. this is exactly what we see with these ‘World Leaders’ (Oligarchs) today 😦

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    • Zedd

       /  July 17, 2018

      because politically.. MrT is a JOKE

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  July 17, 2018

      ‘Give me control of the money’

      and therein lies the likely kompromat that Putin has over trump.

      My hunch is that trump can withstand the embarrassment of any pee tape Putin chooses to release but if he fights back too hard against Putin he’d discover that loan funds would evaporate, his businesses would topple like dominoes, the electoral help that benefited him would now help the Dems topple key Republican seats, and evidence of his crimes would suddenly become more plentiful and easier to find.

      Even a win has a limited lifespan. And chaos is just as good for Vlad as a win.

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      • David

         /  July 17, 2018

        Hell Joe that is a leap even for you

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      • Gezza

         /  July 17, 2018

        The Dems are still stuffed at the moment. They still haven’t got a personable counter to Trump. Policy-wise, they’re all Andys & Simons. Barking at every tweet & passing car. Justifiably, quite often because he’s a fkn embarrassment. Trump’s on track to score more votes than the Dems because people are now getting used to his style & looking at what looks like he’s making real progress putting ordinary, hardworking, patriotic Americans first, for a change.

        The Dems are the party that preached the same Immigration policy as Trump but quietly undercut it constantly with voter-oriented counter-policies at local Democrat-controlled city & state level like ‘sanctuary cities’.

        When both parties lie like that, the choice is between which liars are delivering the most benefits to the most voters.

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  16. Joe Bloggs

     /  July 17, 2018

    Fun fact, yesterday was also the centenary of the murder of the Romanovs in Yekaterinburg by the Bolsheviks.

    Odds on Putin was well aware of this and selected the timing of trump’s Helsinki performance review for that reason.

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  17. Alan Wilkinson

     /  July 17, 2018

    Hilarious that the Democrats accuse Putin of trying to destabilize America while they have been flat out doing just that ever since Trump was elected.

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    • Griff

       /  July 17, 2018

      Alan .
      Trump is destabilizing the USA’s democracy .
      His attacks on justice and the media are horrific for a functioning democracy .
      Yet you blame others for pointing out Trumps constant lies and untrustworthy nature.
      The USA will take decades to recover from the Trump presidency if it ever does .

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  July 17, 2018

        If the media want to be taken seriously they should really try to at least pretend balance.
        They hate him and let it show at every opportunity. He is slanted with the worst possible motives in everything he does.
        It may not be becoming of the office, but it is certainly understandable given the mockery and vitriol they have almost universally sent his way.
        The Justice system seems to be functioning fine as well – it’s not like they buckled under a few words.
        The debt issue is what will destroy the states, not Trump (although he has thrown fuel on that particular fire). US will function fine during and after Trump.

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        • Blazer

           /  July 17, 2018

          in a world of reality T.V and instant gratification why would media worry about being taken..seriously…seriously!

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 17, 2018

        Tripe. He has a record of appointing very well qualified and objective judges.

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        • Gezza

           /  July 17, 2018

          He has a record of appointing conservative judges. Just as Obama tried to appoint liberal ones who were well qualified & objective.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  July 17, 2018

            Yes. Trump’s judges tend to apply the constitution literally and leave law making to the legislatures. That does not constitute destabilizing the US.

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  July 17, 2018

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       /  July 17, 2018

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 17, 2018

        If Romney is pretending the US doesn’t meddle in Russian politics he is either a liar or an idiot. Of course Trump and Putin know what each other does and will continue to do. Whatever words get said. Obama was great at lovely words and completely useless at international politics.

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  July 17, 2018

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 17, 2018

        The beauty of Trump is that he never says the same things as everyone else, Joe.

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  July 17, 2018

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    • Joe Bloggs

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    • Joe Bloggs

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    • Joe Bloggs

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    • Joe Bloggs

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      • Joe Bloggs

         /  July 17, 2018

        looks like the republicans are finally growing spines and standing up for their country

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        • Griff

           /  July 17, 2018

          Your links have far more support than trump is getting on his own twitter feed.
          This may mark the beginning of the end for The Orangutan.
          My Ego Gets Arsed .
          Watch 538 for his support to drop.
          If it hits 35% he is going to jail.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  July 17, 2018

            Trumps supporters are not the Twitterers. That is the domain of the self important Lefty would-be elite.

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            • Joe Bloggs

               /  July 17, 2018

              Little Alan is as tone-deaf as the Orange Excrescence he worships.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  July 17, 2018

              My tone is a lot higher than yours, Joe, but as I am not a Lefty I don’t have to abuse politicians I disagree with.

  18. Zedd

     /  July 17, 2018

    watching the post meeting ‘press briefing’ it was all about denying ‘Russian collusion’.. but when a journo asked Putin ‘do you prefer Mr T over hillary ?’ he gave a resounding “DA.. !!”

    sez it all..

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  19. Griff

     /  July 17, 2018

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  20. JeevesPonzi

     /  July 17, 2018

    Next time they meet, if I were Putin, I would simply come on stage wearing a fox costume…

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  21. Alan Wilkinson

     /  July 17, 2018

    As I noted above, Trump is a realist, not a Lefty fantasist. His latest tweet:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1018943446583668736

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  July 17, 2018

      As I said today and many times before, “I have GREAT confidence in MY intelligence people.” However, I also recognize that in order to build a brighter future, we cannot exclusively focus on the past – as the world’s two largest nuclear powers, we must get along! #HELSINKI2018

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  July 17, 2018

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      • Gezza

         /  July 17, 2018

        Speaking of which, I heard on the news the other night (not sure if it was Aljaz tv or 1ewes) that the police had recovered “a bottle of the poison” at this latest victims’ house. Have we heard any more on this?

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  July 17, 2018

          Yes, the victim who recovered sufficiently to talk evidently was able to point them to it. It was disguised as scent.

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  22. Alan Wilkinson

     /  July 17, 2018

    This sums up Mueller’s Russian indictments pretty well – useless, counter-productive political posturing for which no special prosecutor was in any way needed:
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/muellers-latest-indictments-russians-politicized-pointless/

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    • Gezza

       /  July 17, 2018

      Just getting on with the job, from what I see.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 17, 2018

        You didn’t read the link then.

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        • Gezza

           /  July 17, 2018

          No – I often don’t now unless someone’s made a bit of an effort to set out a reasonable bit of what it says in their post. Sometimes when I open some links they just crash the page on my FiP2 & I can’t bothered with the hassle.

          Is there a video that says much the same thing that you can post?

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    • Griff

       /  July 17, 2018

      Five more comments and you will have a trumpgasm.

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  July 17, 2018

      and cursed with even more stupid worshippers evidently.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 17, 2018

        Sad little ad hominem Joe. Surely you can find a few hundred more Trump-haters saying the same things to post instead?

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        • Joe Bloggs

           /  July 17, 2018

          read em and weep baby….

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  July 17, 2018

            Glad you’ve abolished innocent until proved guilty, Joe. Or in the case of the NRA even until indicted.

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        • Joe Bloggs

           /  July 17, 2018

          read em and weep

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  July 17, 2018

            You do realise the US has done all of those things, Joe?

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          • Gezza

             /  July 17, 2018

            I’ve only just caught up from 1ewes video on exactly how bloody dense his stupid statements were. Even some Trumpophiles have got rocked back on their heels. I knew old Putsie would work him. He’s piss easy with that narcissistic ego & his stellar ignorance & intellectual laziness. Bibi & the Saudis know that too.

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          • Gezza

             /  July 17, 2018

            Trump will have ‘sized Putin up in the first 5 minutes’, like all the other tossers he did that for, that’ve had to be sacked or been made to resign.

            Putin will have had teams of psychologists & psychiatrists sizing Trump up for years & he’ll be listening to them.

            Trump will have had the same people doing that for him but he’ll have ignored them.

            Putsie will walk all over Trump if he doesn’t get what he wants. And Trump won’t even notice.

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  23. Patzcuaro

     /  July 17, 2018
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  24. Patzcuaro

     /  July 17, 2018
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