Israel declares itself ‘nation-state of the Jewish people’

In any country the imposition of a two tier citizenship would be troubling enough, but in Israel it is more troubling because of Jewish history, where they have been severely subjugated as second class citizens or worse in different parts of the world.

The Middle East is complicated. Especially Israel. Giving Jews a special status above other citizens is unlikely to defuse tensions.

SMH:  Israeli law declares country the ‘nation-state of the Jewish people’

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel has long demanded that the Palestinians acknowledge his country’s existence as the “nation-state of the Jewish people.” On Thursday, his governing coalition stopped waiting around and pushed through a law that made it a fact.

In an incendiary move hailed as historic by Netanyahu’s right-wing coalition but denounced by centrists and leftists as racist and anti-democratic, Israel’s parliament enacted a law that enshrines the right of national self-determination as “unique to the Jewish people”— not all citizens.

The legislation, a “basic law”— giving it the weight of a constitutional amendment — omits any mention of democracy or the principle of equality, in what critics called a betrayal of Israel’s 1948 Declaration of Independence, which ensured “complete equality of social and political rights” for “all its inhabitants” no matter their religion, race or sex.

So the law isn a fundamental switch from Israel’s (modern) founding declaration.

With the political opposition too weak to mount a credible threat, and with the Trump administration providing a never-before-seen degree of US support, Netanyahu’s government, the most right-wing and religious coalition in Israel’s 70-year history, has been pressing its advantages on multiple fronts.

It has sought to exercise more control over the news media, erode the authority of the Supreme Court, curb the activities of left-wing advocacy groups, press ahead with moves that amount to de facto annexation of parts of the West Bank, and undermine police by trying to thwart or minimize the effect of multiple corruption investigations against the prime minister.

That is quite disturbing,

And as is common after further erosion of Palestinian rights, both sides turn to violence.

Haaretz: Gaza Escalation: Israel Launches Massive Attack After Hamas Snipers Fire at Troops

  • Four Hamas members killed in Israeli attack after snipers target Israeli soldiers
  • Netanyahu holding emergency discussion at army headquarters
  • Three rockets launched from Gaza, two intercepted by Iron Dome

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Golda Meir quote: One cannot and must not try to erase the past merely because it...

There is no such thing as a Palestinian people… It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn’t exist. – Golda Meir

Regardless of that argument, they exist now, in Israel.

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  1. Blazer

     /  July 21, 2018

    Nothing the Zionists do is a surprise anymore.They can enact laws in their own Parliament,but how legitimate others view them is another ..story.

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    • Gezza

       /  July 21, 2018

      Finally formally declares as its own version of an apartheid state, legalising the land thefts , dispossessions & discrimination that’s been going on in practice for decades now. Aljaz tv commenters noted Netanyahu has been trying to get this through for the last 10 years & now that Trump & Kushner have green lighted anything they do, now was the time.

      The Israeli President himself publicly said it was a bad idea because it would show the world that the longstanding criticisms of Israel being effectively an spartheid state were correct.

      This apparently comes on top of an Open Letter from Kushner to Palestinians telling them, effectively, to reject Hamas embrace Fatah & then be in a position to embrace the “deal of the century” Trump Peace Deal.

      Must see if I can find it. Haven’t seen it yet.

      The move seems to me to cynically calculated to push Hamas over the edge in order to provoke a full scale war on Palestinians & batter them into submission, because the world has shown its inability & unwillingness to stop them thru being either bought off or cowed by the implicit threat of unequivocal & massive US military & diplomatic support for Israel.

      Hamas has played into their hands. That’s the problem with Islamic fundamentalists.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 21, 2018

        Hamas’s attacks on Israel just strengthen Netanyahu. Time for the Palestinians to give peace a chance.

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        • Gezza

           /  July 21, 2018

          This officially priveleges Jews over Palestinians & legitimises Jewish rule over others. The dispossession of Plestinian Arabs is proceeding apace & this legalises ethnic cleansing. The intention of the Zionists in Israel has always been this. Most of the population of Palestinians has already been expelled to other countries.

          The Torah gives the Zionists religious authority to take the land of Biblical Israel from other peoples and to kill & enslave them.

          This is agreed to by:

          supporters of apartheid,
          Judaic fundamentalists,
          Zionists, &
          (particularly US) Christian fundamentalists – who are of two main types:

          1. Bible believers who believe Jaweh gave them this land & that it was morally justified to kill & enslave the previous occupants because he said so & so they can do it again because they believe that still to be true & that altho the Jews will not attain heaven because they do not recognise Jesus as the Messiah or the Trinity, who cares?

          2. Bible believers who also believe all the above but who believe the Jews will rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem (highly likely now, because of provisions in this legislation) after which Jesus will literally appear in the sky in all his glory and on seeing this all the Jews will immediately recognise his Godhead & convert on the spot to Christianity (there’s eschatology beyond this).

          There are others, unaware of this, who simply see it as an issue of Israel having taken the Palestinians land off them & battled off those wanting to get it back, should be allowed to keep all they have taken by force.

          It will be interesting to see what happens next but the Zionists are well set up to do what always intended to do & The Hebrew Bible says they must.

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          • God gave Israel to the Jews, it’s that simple.

            Why people would grudge Jews reclaiming such a tiny part of the world is a mystery to me.

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            • Gezza

               /  July 21, 2018

              The Israelites took most of Israel/Judah from the peoples who had other fictional gods who already lived there, slaughtered, raped, & enslaved some, & used their fictional god Jaweh as their excuse to doing it.

              They held & controlled it for about 300 years & the rest of the time it was held & ruled by other people with other gods. The people whose god Allah is held to have corrected all the mistakes, misunderstandings & false beliefs the Jews & Christians had led them away from Jaweh’s real demands of believers have held it for all but 100 of the last 1400 years.

              The Christian Crusaders held it, or certainly Jerusalem. for a century.

              Jaweh does not exist. He did not give this land to anybody. It belongs to whoever takes and holds it.

            • Gezza

               /  July 21, 2018

              Christ! I’m getting worse at proof-reading. This damn iPad makes it so hard to edit.

              *…their excuse for doing it.

              *…all the mistakes, misunderstandings & false beliefs the Jews & Christians had come to believe which led them away …

            • sorethumb

               /  July 21, 2018

              Kitty Catkin / July 21, 2018
              God gave Israel to the Jews, it’s that simple.
              ………
              What’s wrong with Muslims. Are they only great in Gentile countries?

  2. Patzcuaro

     /  July 21, 2018

    Makes you wonder if Mossad has some Kompromat on Trump as well.

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    • Gezza

       /  July 21, 2018

      No it’s Ivanka. Jared’s job. Bibi’s & Kushner’s families have been close friends for decades.

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  3. Gezza

     /  July 21, 2018

    It’s not getting coverage in the West becos of the Trump Show’s constant front page antics, but Assad’s forces have just completed another full-on assault on one of the few remaining rebel held provinces in Syria. As is the usual pattern the rebels have finally surrendered, laid doen their arms, & under a Russian guarantee of safe passage to yet another remaining rebel-held area (possibly Idlib), boarded buses out of their under the armed supervision of the Syrian army.

    Footage in recent days on Aljaz has shown hundreds of desperately frightened refugees, people who aren’t rebels – just ordinary folk have lived under rebel rule for the past few years – trying to escape into Israel.

    They fear the retribution they expect is coming against everybody who lived in an area that (in Assad’s eyes) rejected his rule.

    The Israeli army has been standing fast on its border, using loudspeakers telling them they aren’t coming onto Israeli soil. The threat they’ll be attacked is clear. Awful situation.

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  4. NOEL

     /  July 21, 2018

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-compromise-reached-on-jews-only-communities-clause-1.6271813

    Claims of Jewish only communities and religious laws over state laws.

    Now where have I seen claims that a particular group trying to drive religious laws over state laws?

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    • In many, many places.

      Did you know that it was centuries before Jews and Catholics could be MPs in the UK ? It finally happened in the c.19.

      How about the taniwha that held up the motorway a few years ago in the Waikato until its whanau were compensated ?

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  5. Zedd

     /  July 21, 2018

    as soon as MrT & Co. declared Jerusalem as the defacto ‘capital of Israel’ they should have seen this coming; Greenlight to the complete takeover of Westbank/Palestine & the continued bombing/terrorising of Gaza/palestine.. as NetanYAHOOO & the zionists have been planning, all along: ‘what 1967 borders.. no idea what you mean !’ 😦

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    • Zedd

       /  July 21, 2018

      one race.. the HUMAN race !

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      • Gezza

         /  July 21, 2018

        Pity there wasn’t just one religion, & it was an always peaceful one, and it was true, & it wasn’t any of the mythical bullshit Abrahamic three that are now at the heart of all the problems of the Middle East, & many of those beginning in other countries

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        • Zedd

           /  July 21, 2018

          some believe there is only ‘one religion’ (besides buddhism.. which is not really a theistic one).. unfortunately there are many different interpreters/translations.

          when I first heard about Islam, I thought it was a ‘new religion’ (from judeo-christianity) but I have looked into it & found they also venerate most of the bible prophets; inc. Jesus, Moses, Abraham, John the baptist etc. BUT they say that the original text was ‘corrupted’ by translators & many interpretations over 100s-1000s of years ?
          the original aramaic, hebrew & greek text no longer exist. Even the dead sea scrolls, which some believe is correct, had been rewritten & translated too.

          Muslims believe that in order to understand the true message.. you have to read the scriptures, inc. Qur’an in the original language they were written down in (by original scribes etc.)

          Hinduism has 3 basic ‘gods’ too; Brahma, Vishnu & Shiva; maybe similar to the ‘trinity’ in judeo-christianity ?

          I think the biggest problem is the intolerance that exist.. ‘only we know the true religion & the rest are just wrong or devil worship’ etc. etc.

          here endeth the lesson… 🙂

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          • Zedd

             /  July 21, 2018

            btw; “happy sabbath.. all” 🙂

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          • Gezza

             /  July 21, 2018

            when I first heard about Islam, I thought it was a ‘new religion’ (from judeo-christianity) but I have looked into it & found they also venerate most of the bible prophets; inc. Jesus, Moses, Abraham, John the baptist etc. BUT they say that the original text was ‘corrupted’ by translators & many interpretations over 100s-1000s of years ?
            That is correct, but have you actually read the whole Quran from cover to cover?

            Or anything of the two most prominently used Hadith: Muslim & Bhukari?

            the original aramaic, hebrew & greek text no longer exist. Even the dead sea scrolls, which some believe is correct, had been rewritten & translated too.
            That is correct, but they do not change the essential claims made about & by the prophets & gospel writers in any significant way in the translations which have been made into English.

            Have you actually read the whole Bible from cover to cover?

            Muslims believe that in order to understand the true message.. you have to read the scriptures, inc. Qur’an in the original language they were written down in (by original scribes etc.)

            That is correct but, again, Muslims themselves differ on the precise meaning of many verses in the original Arabic script in which they were written down. There is no central authority on the Quran such as the Pope for Catholics. The Quran is interpreted constantly by Imams & scholars everywhere & their opinions are issued as fatwahs.

            A further problem is the doctrine of abrogation. The Quran was delivered in pieces by Muhammad whenever he needed an instruction to be conveyed to him from Jaweh (Allah) via the Angel Gabriel over a period of 23 years. Muslims claim the angel Gabriel visited him every year to check & reorder the verses revealed by Muhammad.

            Some verses that were found to be inconvenient at a later date when he had conquered more Jews & Christians were removed because, it was claimed by Muhammad he had been tricked, & they had actually been revealed to him by Satan. These are the Satanic Verses. They exist & are not fictional.

            Because some verses have always either been ambiguous or straight out conflicting, some Muslims say some early verses were abrogated by later verses. Others argue the existing verses of Quran have already been abrogated by being removed by Muhammad & the Angel Gabriel, & that there are no conflicts. (There are.)

            Also, English-speaking now-atheist Muslims who learned & believed the Quran in its Arabic form say that the best English translations of the Quran give basically as true a translation of the meaning of the verses as Muslims take from the original Arabic – and that exactly the same debates about their true meaning & intent apply in English,

            The same applies to the Hadith & probably Sira (the recorded sayings & doings of Muhammad that also govern what Muslims must do & believe – the Muslim Gospels, in effect).

            The practice of stressing the usually very minor changes that have occurred during the translating of these Holy Scriptures over the years has become ever more intense from religious apologists as sciences like physics, chemistry, biology & archaeology have increasingly shown the Bible to be obvious superstition, magic stories, myth, historically unsupported, logically & factually impossible, & morally reprehensible – especially the Old Testament,

            Further lessons will be provided where needed.

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            • Zedd

               /  July 22, 2018

              excellent commentary gezza

              to your questions; I have read the english Qur’an & some books of the bible (old & new testaments).. also some buddhism & hindu texts too

              the hadiths are ‘deeds & sayings of the prophet’ perhaps similar to the talmud (jewish law commentaries ?)

              I try to keep an ‘open mind’ on these things.. & keep informed, where possible

              old saying ‘Dont argue over politics & religion’.. it often starts fights/WAR ! 😦

  6. wooden goat

     /  July 21, 2018

    This article may shed some light on things.

    How Strong Is the Arab Claim to Palestine?-Exactly who has the right to claim “I had it first?”
    – FrontpageMagazine 8-30-04

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1202907/posts

    Quote – “There is a myth hanging over all discussion of the Palestinian problem: the myth that this land was “Arab” land taken from its native inhabitants by invading Jews. Whatever may be the correct solution to the problems of the Middle East, let’s get a few things straight:

    § As a strictly legal matter, the Jews didn’t take Palestine from the Arabs; they took it from the British, who exercised sovereign authority in Palestine under a League of Nations mandate for thirty years prior to Israel’s declaration of independence in 1948. And the British don’t want it back.

    § If you consider the British illegitimate usurpers, fine. In that case, this territory is not Arab land but Turkish land, a province of the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years until the British wrested it from them during the Great War in 1917. And the Turks don’t want it back.

    § If you look back earlier in history than the Ottoman Turks, who took over Palestine over in 1517, you find it under the sovereignty of the yet another empire not indigenous to Palestine: the Mamluks, who were Turkish and Circassian slave-soldiers headquartered in Egypt. And the Mamluks don’t even exist any more, so they can’t want it back.

    So, going back 800 years, there’s no particularly clear chain of title that makes Israel’s title to the land inferior to that of any of the previous owners. Who were, continuing backward:

    § The Mamluks, already mentioned, who in 1250 took Palestine over from:

    § The Ayyubi dynasty, the descendants of Saladin, the Kurdish Muslim leader who in 1187 took Jerusalem and most of Palestine from:

    § The European Christian Crusaders, who in 1099 conquered Palestine from:

    § The Seljuk Turks, who ruled Palestine in the name of:

    § The Abbasid Caliphate of Baghdad, which in 750 took over the sovereignty of the entire Near East from:

    § The Umayyad Caliphate of Damascus, which in 661 inherited control of the Islamic lands from

    § The Arabs of Arabia, who in the first flush of Islamic expansion conquered Palestine in 638 from:

    § The Byzantines, who (nice people—perhaps it should go to them?) didn’t conquer the Levant, but, upon the division of the Roman Empire in 395, inherited Palestine from:

    § The Romans, who in 63 B.C. took it over from:

    § The last Jewish kingdom, which during the Maccabean rebellion from 168 to 140 B.C. won control of the land from:

    § The Hellenistic Greeks, who under Alexander the Great in 333 B.C. conquered the Near East from:

    § The Persian empire, which under Cyrus the Great in 639 B.C. freed Jerusalem and Judah from:

    § The Babylonian empire, which under Nebuchadnezzar in 586 B.C. took Jerusalem and Judah from:

    § The Jews, meaning the people of the Kingdom of Judah, who, in their earlier incarnation as the Israelites, seized the land in the 12th and 13th centuries B.C. from:

    § The Canaanites, who had inhabited the land for thousands of years before they were dispossessed by the Israelites.

    As the foregoing suggests, any Arab claim to sovereignty based on inherited historical control will not stand up. Arabs are not native to Palestine, but are native to Arabia, which is called Arab-ia for the breathtakingly simple reason that it is the historic home of the Arabs. The terroritories comprising all other “Arab” states outside the Arabian peninsula—including Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Tunisia, and Algeria, as well as the entity now formally under the Palestinian Authority—were originally non-Arab nations that were conquered by the Muslim Arabs when they spread out from the Arabian peninsula in the first great wave of jihad in the 7th century, defeating, mass-murdering, enslaving, dispossessing, converting, or reducing to the lowly status of dhimmitude millions of Christians and Jews and destroying their ancient and flourishing civilizations. Prior to being Christian, of course, these lands had even more ancient histories. Pharaonic Egypt, for example, was not an Arab country through its 3,000 year history.

    The recent assertion by the Palestinian Arabs that they are descended from the ancient Canaanites whom the ancient Hebrews displaced is absurd in light of the archeological evidence. There is no record of the Canaanites surviving their destruction in ancient times. History records literally hundreds of ancient peoples that no longer exist. The Arab claim to be descended from Canaanites is an invention that came after the 1964 founding of the Palestine Liberation Organization, the same crew who today deny that there was ever a Jewish temple in Jerusalem. Prior to 1964 there was no “Palestinian” people and no “Palestinian” claim to Palestine; the Arab nations who sought to overrun and destroy Israel in 1948 planned to divide up the territory amongst themselves. Let us also remember that prior to the founding of the state of Israel in 1948, the name “Palestinian” referred to the Jews of Palestine. ”
    – end quote

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