Media watch – Sunday

22 July 2018

MediaWatch

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  1. Missy

     /  July 22, 2018

    • NOEL

       /  July 22, 2018

      1969 I was serving in South Vietnam when I sighted reporting of the feat in a copy of the “Stars and Stripes”.

      I remember muttering “would be nice if some of that money could be used to down here.”

      • Gezza

         /  July 22, 2018

        I don’t mean to criticise your service in Vietnam: I respect you for it.

        But I couldn’t help thinking when I read that, that it’s a pity all that money was spent in Vietnam & that cost so many lives to no avail, when you look at the final result, the injuries still happening there today, the damage it did to so msny veterans, & what Vietbam is like today.

        • NOEL

           /  July 22, 2018

          Yeah ok but in 1969 the outcome for the South Vietnamese was looking better than at any other time during the war. Same cannot be said for 1972 during my second tour.
          I would guess every soldier who served there would have liked to have been able to get a crystal ball along with his rifle from the Q Store.

  2. Rugby dominates current NZ trends on Twitter.

    New Zealand trends · Change Change trend settings
    #CRUvSHA
    #HURVCHI
    #WARvHIG
    #RWC7s
    Highlanders
    Waratahs
    #clubrugby
    Crusaders
    Chiefs
    Canes

    • Corky

       /  July 22, 2018

      I saw the future of Woman’s Sevens domination – USA.

      • Both women’s semi finals were top class sevens. USA certainly show a lot of potential. And France did very well to come back from a deficit to beat Australia.

        • Zedd

           /  July 22, 2018

          watching day 2 ‘Rugby 7s world cup’.. now (Duke TV) 🙂

  3. Zedd

     /  July 22, 2018

    I saw a news item on AlJz yesterday.. interview with Jill Stein (USA Greens) who was seen in a picture.. sitting a table (2015 ?) with Putin & one of MrTs advisors !

    They asked if she was ‘perhaps colluding’ against Hillary too. She replied that she was at a conference on Anti-nukes & other ‘Green issues’ etc. these folks were also there. BUT it was interesting that Ms Stein was ‘at the TOP table’.. with Putin !?

    They also showed a banner that said ‘better with Bernie or Jill than Hillary’. Sounded like NOT really ‘Pro-Trump’.. but ANTI-Hillary. There was a comment that many democrats believe that the Greens reduced their ‘Left vote’ & gave Mr T the numbers to win ??

    I do think USA need to move away from their staunch two-party system & the Greens are at least trying to do so. If they had a MMP type system Hillary would have won anyway

    • Zedd

       /  July 22, 2018

      OR is it the ‘beast with 7 heads’ from Revelation (bible) ? 😀

  4. sorethumb

     /  July 22, 2018

    Laura Southern and Stefan Molyneux probably know in in the end its not local authorities’ policies on their venues that might strangle the spread of their ideas.

    Its the news media that have the power to put them in front of an audience that doesn’t already subscribe to their views – or their YouTube channel.

    https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018654471/free-speech-debate-goes-full-noise

    In other words Mediawatch message is that the media should exercise censorship.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  July 22, 2018

      “her whole rhetoric is designed to create a reaction rather than examining individual issues”

      That complaint from a journalist amused me as if it isn’t the usual role of the MSM these days. Presumably she had failed to elicit a sound-bite she could wrap her agenda around.

    • sorethumb

       /  July 22, 2018

      Listening to Mediawatch who is Karl du Frane who has a column in the listener?

      • Gezza

         /  July 22, 2018

        That would be Karl Du Fresne.
        I’m 62.
        Do you mind telling me how old you are?

        • sorethumb

           /  July 22, 2018

          66 Junior.
          So I thought Fresne was Fres/nay? “Karl du Frane”

          • Gezza

             /  July 22, 2018

            I think it might be French.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  July 22, 2018

              I think G “might be” right. The “s” is often/usually silent in French.

            • Gezza

               /  July 22, 2018

              The ‘du’ makes me a bit hesitant, Al. “de” would be more characteristically French.

            • Gezza

               /  July 22, 2018

              I could google it, but so can thumbsta if he wants to know.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  July 22, 2018

              No need for hesitancy. Fresne is a masculine noun (ash tree). du is the masculine version of de.

            • Gezza

               /  July 22, 2018

              👍🏼

            • Gezza

               /  July 22, 2018

              I’m surprised thumbsta hasn’t heard of him.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  July 22, 2018

              Yep. Not to mention Marion du Fresne who sailed up my little river and in a very non-PC way reportedly sacked the pa on the hilltop opposite.

        • sorethumb

           /  July 23, 2018

          I’ve read his column, just didn’t know that his name was pronounced that way.

          • Gezza

             /  July 23, 2018

            Oh. Ok. Have you learned any other languages or can you only do English?

  5. Zedd

     /  July 22, 2018

    I just watched part 2 of the doco. ‘In Pot Pursuit’. They visited a dispensary in California & interviewed a doctor who sees many patients who currently use cannabis & DO get relief. She said it may have some placebo effect.. BUT for children with Epilepsy.. it is NOT a placebo effect. It seems to rebalance the lack of body chemicals that CBDs & THC are similar to.

    They spoke to several people who currently use cannabis/extracts for pain/ anxiety etc. inc. a boy who is now seizure free from Dravet syndrome (severe epilepsy) & a Army Vet. who suffers severe PTSD from his experiences in Iraq/Afghanistan. Many of these folks where prescribed Opioids etc. they now use cannabis drugs instead.. no over doses or severe side effects !

    Meanwhile in NZ we still…. wait… :/

    They showed a kiwi lady from part 1 who was waiting to get a review of her original ‘not approved’ for her spasms.. she has been granted $500 from ACC to get another specialist diagnosis.. but no guarantee. They revisited a family with two young girls (with severe neurological conditions) who were finally approved a cannabis drug; BUT one of the girls died soon after.. too little too late: “Anya RIP” 😦

  6. sorethumb

     /  July 22, 2018

    Note tells neighbours to beware of people moving into house that Housing NZ has bought
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/105554833/note-tells-neighbours-to-beware-of-people-moving-into-house-that-housing-nz-has-bought

    One person writes a note warning about state house (low income people) moving in and it becomes a big story about society.
    6:06 PM. Te Ahi Kaa RNZ
    It became about racism about the good people (they spoke to in the street) and the other bunch who look down on Maori and the poor

    You aren’t allowed a negative view of state housing, even though it may be street wise and balanced. One must wear rose coloured spectacles. t was an odd thing to write letters to all the residents. Anyway it is only one house. It is tough when you have flats all around.

    • sorethumb

       /  July 22, 2018

      What I’m saying is that whatever your views on state housing, that person was an outlier but is painted as representative of pervasive attitude.
      If I was in that position [it would be a step up actually] , I would think “state house tenants? If they are ferals we will have to do what we can to get rid of them” The operative bit would be “ferals” (of any stripe).

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 22, 2018

        Actually the operative bit is landlord wilful incompetence. So long as HNZ maintains a “no expulsion” policy and doesn’t remove feral tenants, neighbours will regard its properties as potentially an intolerable threat.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  July 22, 2018

          Sorry PDT but you are a dickhead.