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  1. lurcher1948

     /  July 23, 2018

    Not this year,warrior fans

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    • They certainly looked largely impotent against the storm yesterday. A close loss on the scoreboard, but it seemed like a comprehensive and inevitable loss as the game progressed.

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  2. Corky

     /  July 23, 2018

    Crikey. I didn’t know Social Credit was still going. Their spokesperson was interviewed this morning. Chris Leitch is in favour of a transaction tax to replace GST. According to Chris we would pay one quarter of a cent per transaction. That would net in share trading and currency speculation ( the Kiwi dollar is the most globally traded ). That would basically give everyone a 15 % boost to their incomes.

    If a transaction tax is the same as a point of sale tax, I’m all for it.

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    • Blazer

       /  July 23, 2018

      how could forex gamblers make money if the big banks can’t manipulate interest rates,and apply the critical mass that moves a minnow like the Kiwi?

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      • Corky

         /  July 23, 2018

        Very good point, Blazer. Therefore, you like me, would support a transaction tax.

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        • Blazer

           /  July 23, 2018

          it has no hope of success Corky.
          Wall St doesn’t like the prospect so its a dead duck.Will get the loony ,barking mad label.

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  3. lurcher1948

     /  July 23, 2018

    Everyone can feel safe now,you will not go to jail for”smoking a mars bar” now says Simon Bridges and thats a relief

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  4. Corky

     /  July 23, 2018

    Is Mikey going limp? He has conceded NZ1 might have a life after Winston with Jonesey at the helm.

    Switch to potentised Tumeric, son.

    Talking of confusion. Hollywood has its first transgender super hero. I’m afraid looking up and seeing a shelia fly past with a beard won’t ‘do it’ for me.

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  5. David

     /  July 23, 2018

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5979249/May-faces-political-crisis-poll-shows-just-12-Brexit-fudge.html

    Mrs May, daft plan receives its final death blows. She lost cabinet Ministers, under secretaries, grass root Tory volunteers, the EU,s Barnier rejected it, the Irish said it wont work and now only 12% of the population support it.
    This comes on top of the massive jump in serious crime in the UK with stabbings, acid attacks, rampant moped muggings being mostly pinned on Mays long time serving as home secretary where she oversaw a drop in the police budget and halted stop and search, pushed for ploice to prosecute hurty facebook posts and wanted to make wolf whistling a crime.
    The Tories need to dump her and quickly or UKIP will tip them over and Corbyn will be in charge.

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    • Gezza

       /  July 23, 2018

      1ewes just reported that in ‘news just in’ 3 men have been arrested over the acid attack.
      Still nothing known as to the motive for the attack.

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  6. lurcher1948

     /  July 23, 2018

    Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon(what a mouthful)AKA the racist Tommy Robinson who is still alive in prison has a lot of support and money coming in from the altright/nazis in the USA, i wonder if any of his supporters here have donated??(for what)
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/22/us-rightwing-groups-bankroll-campaign-to-free-tommy-robinson

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  7. Blazer

     /  July 23, 2018

    risk and reward?

    ‘Worries of a bubble led S&P Global to downgrade the credit rating of 23 smaller banks after the budget. It cited concerns that “the risk of a sharp correction in property prices has increased”.

    In arguing for the levy, the government has made it clear that the big four and Macquarie are treated as special by the government – and that treatment is worth (in the treasurer’s view) “about a 20 to 40 basis point advantage because of the nature of the regulation and structure of our financial system”.

    The bank levy is thus in effect making it explicit that the big four banks and Macquarie are too big to fail.

    And crucially, S&P did not downgrade the credit rating of any of those five banks, arguing that it expected they would receive “timely financial support from the Australian government, if needed”.

    Effectively, the special treatment the big four banks and Macquarie receive by paying the bank levy also sees them spared a credit rating downgrade and helps not only to keep their borrowing costs down but also (and somewhat perversely) improves their competitive advantage over the smaller banks.

    Though I doubt you’ll see any banks thank the government for that.’

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2017/jun/04/australias-too-big-to-fail-banks-cry-crocodile-tears-over-bank-levy

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  8. Alan Wilkinson

     /  July 23, 2018

    Some interesting comments on sex differences here:
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12093525

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    • Pickled Possum

       /  July 23, 2018

      Very interesting Al. The stick out point for I was
      Men don’t listen to women,
      There’s the communication break down right there.
      They just NOD and say something indiscernible.
      The woman thinking the man has heard and understood carries on,
      When it is obvious the man didn’t hear a single syllable,
      There can be Trouble in the love pit!

      As for men turning into women and women turning into men
      and how you get treated differently and how you act differently.
      that is very interesting.
      That’s why I love the song from Rag n Bone Man

      Human
      Maybe I’m foolish, maybe I’m blind
      Thinking I can see through this and see what’s behind
      Got no way to prove it so maybe I’m blind

      But I’m only human after all, I’m only human after all
      Don’t put your blame on me

      Frost over here today if I had Balls they would have been frozen!

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 23, 2018

        Yes, there was some frost on my dog walk this morning and I’ve been trying to warm cold hands since. I chuckled at the story of the guy who walked into the door the woman let swing behind her. Women don’t realise how rudely they treat men in some ways. And the reverse is also true.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 23, 2018

        A man does listen to a woman but there is a timeout. Once the transmission continues past the timeout the receiver switches off. It’s important to get the necessary information across before that timeout.

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  9. lurcher1948

     /  July 23, 2018

    Go NZ double-double champions

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  10. lurcher1948

     /  July 23, 2018

    And some righties are upset that pensioners get some damn help with their heating bill, hell i paid for their damn marriage and children when i worker for stuff all
    Now raising two kids on $1,110 a week would be tight. But it is worth noting taxpayers are already helping out considerably boosting the net salary of $37,000 by a further $21,000.
    THIS COUPLE GETS FAR MORE THAN OUR PENSION

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    • Gerrit

       /  July 23, 2018

      You realise don’t you she is a single parent? Family is used to describe her and her children.

      ” The father of her children is “long gone”, she says.
      “I’m a single mum with two kids, so I’ve been struggling for a long time.””

      Where in her budget is the fathers contribution?

      No family to help? Where are parents? Fathers parents? Grand parents.

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  11. lurcher1948

     /  July 23, 2018

    Max Key is moving….on

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  12. PDB

     /  July 23, 2018

    Question for the day…

    Is this: The Warehouse introducing a type of ‘living wage’ “https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11254340”

    related to this: “Warehouse to cut up to 140 jobs in store leadership restructure “”As a result of the new store leadership structure, it is anticipated that there will be between 120 and 140 fewer-full time equivalent roles across The Warehouse’s stores. He said efforts were being made to re-deploy as many team members as possible into vacant roles. All workers will now be required to work weekend and evening shifts.”

    “Our rule of thumb is that if a permanent worker’s hours are cut then that is a partial redundancy. The problem is the company is forcing workers to apply for a job with a cut in hours and will then say there is no partial redundancy because the worker applied for the new job.”

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/105687934/warehouse-confirms-job-losses-in-senior-roles

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    • Blazer

       /  July 23, 2018

      no,its related to overpaid,underperforming management on a t.o bonus system.
      The Warehouse sold their property holdings and have long term expensive leases .They are also facing ,hot competition.
      Online and K Mart are eating into their profits .
      Warehouse Stationery is not performing and Noel Leeming is about the only division that is.

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      • PDB

         /  July 23, 2018

        Just coincidence in your eyes that one of the effects of artificially rising wages/quickly bumping up the minimum wage with no increase in productivity is either reduced staff and/or reduced hours then?

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        • Blazer

           /  July 23, 2018

          I just mentioned some of the reasons.

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          • PDB

             /  July 23, 2018

            You also said ‘no’ they are not related…

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            • Blazer

               /  July 23, 2018

              o.k..no they’re not related.
              Management remuneration needs better incentivised ,performance targets.These muppets are overpaid.
              The Warehouse is the Warriors of NZ retail…they’ll be a better team…next year.

  13. David

     /  July 23, 2018

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-approval-rating-inches-higher-buoyed-by-republican-support-1532293201

    OMG I am so happy, who would have thought that the media losing their heads over a press conference would have zero affect on Trumps approval ratings…aside from improving them. He has a staggering 88% approval amongst Republican voters, very impressive numbers and as he always asks his supporters “are you tired of winning, are you sick of winning”.

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  14. David

     /  July 23, 2018

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/1675/most-important-problem.aspx

    Another interesting poll where the environment was a concern for just 2% of the population, no one believes the alarmists anymore it seems.

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  15. David

     /  July 23, 2018

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2018/07/05/scottish-temperature-record-rejected-by-met-office/

    Fake news debunked by none other than the warmists at the Met Office.

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  16. lurcher1948

     /  July 23, 2018

    Whyt does the OLD orange idiot cursed with bone spurs POTUS#45 want tp lose anothrer war,THE USA losing wars since before Vietnam, in fact HOPELESS
    lol From Trump.

    To Iranian President Rouhani: NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE. WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH. BE CAUTIOUS!

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  17. lurcher1948

     /  July 23, 2018

    DONT VISIT FLORIDA, bad shit happens in FLORIDA,

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    • Corky

       /  July 23, 2018

      I saw this on the news, Lurchy. It wasn’t shit. It was legal self defense. The type we should have in New Zealand

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      • PartisanZ

         /  July 23, 2018

        Fuck yeah … I’d kill for a parking space sometimes!

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        • Corky

           /  July 23, 2018

          Get it right, Parti. The shooter was SMASHED TO THE GROUND. This is America.
          You have the right to lethal self defense ( with variations state to state).

          A parking space has nothing to do with it.

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      • lurcher1948

         /  July 23, 2018

        you are a sad person lacking morality

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        • Corky

           /  July 23, 2018

          See my comment to Parti.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  July 23, 2018

          Stupid woman parks in disabled park when not entitled and then starts a row with someone who objects. Even more stupid partner then physically attacks the objector and gets shot. Deserves a Darwin Award.

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          • Gezza

             /  July 23, 2018

            Idiot should have had a bloody gun. It’s America FFS. Any prick could lose their rag & shoot you.

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  18. PartisanZ

     /  July 23, 2018

    ‘It’s time for business to take responsibility for low wages’ – John Holt – STUFF

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/105679737/its-time-for-business-to-take-responsibility-for-low-wages

    “Ten of the 36 countries we are comparing with have average wages that are 25 per cent more than average New Zealand wages, and a further three countries earn wages a full 50 per cent more.”

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  July 23, 2018

      What a ridiculous article. It is all based on a comparison between an imaginary average wage after tax ratio in two countries and a GDP per capita before tax ratio that is so uncertain as to be laughable. That is supposed to be data science??

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  19. PartisanZ

     /  July 23, 2018

    ‘Tobacco excise tax leading to murders and assaults at dairies, says Winston Peters’ – NZHeraldo

    Peters, as always, is exaggerating for effect, but if you count dairy/superette robberies & smash’n’grabs into the mix the “smokefree by 2025” goal has become counter-productive in almost every way imaginable.

    “A goal to make New Zealand smokefree by 2025 has all but evaporated because although the smoking rate has declined, it remains stubbornly high among some groups, including young Maori.”

    In an economy based around chasing greed and enabling addictions like alcohol, fast food, consumerism, excess wealth and escapism, where very little that is toxic is banned, yet truly medicinal/therapeutic cannabis is illegal, it’s hard to find justification for trying to ban tobacco …

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