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  1. Blazer

     /  July 29, 2018

    Chisora k.o’s Takam…could be a harbinger for Parker/Whyte…Takam fought Parker,narrow points loss…and Whyte beat Chisora ..narrow points win.
    My pick=Whyte …a fighter not much of a boxer but loves to mix it.

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  2. Corky

     /  July 29, 2018

    Observations with Corky.

    The internet has had unintended consequences that could not have been envisaged. Take
    my supermarket. It is well known light degregates food, especially oils and processed nuts. I have known that for thirty years. So have others. So when we shop we always reach to the back of a displayed product to get something fresher; something that has not been in direct contact with light. However, recently I’ve noticed shelves were the product has been stripped from the back by a better informed customer, thanks to the internet.. Talking to the checkout operator who was weighing my beetroot, I said: ”you know beetroot is a supposed superfood?”. She replied without hesitation ” I know, we sell way more beetroot then we used to. I use it in my morning smoothy.” Bloody marvellous. That’s why beetroot is sometimes in short supply….and I can’t get fresher product from the back of a display.
    Again, a better informed public.

    This of course is an example of ‘knowledge is power.’ And why people with power don’t want to share it with people who don’t have power. Once the general public have power, the powerful become nobodies. Life becomes more stressful. That’s the aim of socialism.

    I fear for the future of us Righties. We are like the knights of old who practised the noble art of combat from an early age. They had status and power. If anyone disagreed, one sword blow would settle the dispute. That was until some prat invented the crossbow.. Now anyone could take a knight out cleanly without raising a sweat. No matter how well armoured or trained, a knight couldn’t compete with a crossbow. Sure, crossbows were outlaw and regulated to some degree, but the damage was done.

    Will the internet be the modern day equivalent of the crossbow for us Righties.

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    • Blazer

       /  July 29, 2018

      lay off the…beet root.

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      • Corky

         /  July 29, 2018

        Well, I got the last two. Who knows when the next shipment will arrive.

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        • Blazer

           /  July 29, 2018

          looks like I got the boxing call right …AGAIN…Corky.

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          • Corky

             /  July 29, 2018

            I didn’t call the fight as you well know. Parker is now way off a title shot. However, he’s the type of opponent a world champ or new up and comer will want to take on to prove themselves. He will still get work..that scenario will be the only way he gets back into the big time. He’s definitely not out. However, now would be a good time to ask himself whether he wants to carry on.

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            • Blazer

               /  July 29, 2018

              Parker needs a new trainer…defence is lousy…Whytes tactics were obvious.
              Gutsy performance from Parker all the same.

        • Patzcuaro

           /  July 29, 2018

          Beetroot are easy to grow and store reasonably well, might I suggest you grow your own.

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          • Corky

             /  July 29, 2018

            I do. But they don’t last all year. I miss the brix level of mine. The shop bought
            ones are never as sweet.

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      • Griff

         /  July 29, 2018

        It must be something stronger than just beet root alone.

        To much listening to whacky alt med adds on ZB ?

        Mainlining woo ?

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        • Corky

           /  July 29, 2018

          I take it you’ve just found out those Ricies you eat are nutritionally worthless, Griffy.
          In your case no woo…just boo-ho!

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          • Gezza

             /  July 29, 2018

            WTF does degregate mean? I can’t find a dictionary definition with google & it’s not in my 1&1/2 in thick Collins Concise English Dictionary.

            Gotta couple of jobs to do down at ma’s. Back later. Look forward to learning what this word means then.

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            • Corky

               /  July 29, 2018

              Couldn’t find the correct spelling. But I knew you would mention it. I was also expecting the answer. Talking of spelling prattishness – Kitty may have some fun with Simon Bridges tweet.

            • Gezza

               /  July 29, 2018

              Did you mean degrade?

            • Blazer

               /  July 29, 2018

              you well know he means denigrate.

            • He probably doesn’t know what he means.

              He certainly flogs words like prattishness to death. I am in favour of recycling, but using the same word over and over looks like a paucity of vocabulary.

              Aren’t food bores tiresome ???

            • Corky

               /  July 29, 2018

              I am in favour of recycling,

              Yeah, right. What..your white bread plastic wraps? Those can’t be recycled. But if it makes you feel good.

            • As a matter of fact, bread bags can be and are recycled, as can any other ‘soft plastic’. Every supermarket has a large bin for these, clearly labelled. I don’t know if all Warehouses have them, but the local ones do.

              The bags and soft plastics (like glad wrap and such things) are made into garden furniture.

              This has been going on for a long time.

              How have you missed it ?

              No doubt you think that you’re being clever by saying ‘white bread’, just as you did when you talked about rice crispies or whatever it was.You have no idea what other people eat, and it’s none of your business anyway.

            • Corky

               /  July 29, 2018

              Kitty thinks she is recycling her plastic bread bags. However, unlike her, I actually asked a recycler about soft plastic. His exact words ” it goes to the tip, mate.” Some councils do recycle soft plastic…most don’t.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/97646578/how-to-recycle-your-plastic-bags-when-recycling-can-still-mean-landfill

          • Griff

             /  July 29, 2018

            No cooky I have known that the nutritional difference between cornflakes and the cardboard its packed in is close to zero for about forty years.
            I dont eat breakfast cereals never have.
            The texture of the wet mush, when you mix cereal with milk, is disgusting.

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            • You must leave it too long. Eat it before the breakfast cereal goes soft.

              I wonder if Cooky( 😀 ) realises how childishly silly he sounds when he makes these statements about what people do.

            • Corky

               /  July 29, 2018

              ”I wonder if Cooky( 😀 ) realises how childishly silly he sounds when he makes these statements about what people do.”

              Nearly as silly as the fools who reply.

            • Griff

               /  July 29, 2018

              We should not do that to names .
              I only did because he calls me Griffy.

              Many Aspies have weird food issues about textures, taste,smells or even colours.
              Two of my nephews also will not eat wet cereal. I like to eat bananas but the smell of someone mashing them makes me physically ill .
              I could not stand to eat at the table with the family as a child. It took years of effort by the Girl to desensitise me to others eating before I could enjoy going out to dinner with her.

              .

            • Corky

               /  July 29, 2018

              Sorry about that, Griff. It’s a bad habit of mine. It won’t happen again.

            • If you don’t want people to reply, don’t make silly, nosey comments. Mind your own business about other people’s lives.

            • Corky

               /  July 29, 2018

              If you don’t want to look like an idiot mind your own business when I post. Otherwise take your lumps without whining.

            • I said that there are bins in supermarkets and Warehouses. This has nothing to do with the council who do indeed send them to the tip,

              There is a soft plastics recycling firm who would hardly be bothering to collect these if all they were going to do was save the councils the trouble of taking them to the tip.

              This is quite different to the council recycling collection. That’s why it’s in supermarkets.

              Look up ‘soft plastics recycling NZ’ or something like that.

            • Corky

               /  July 29, 2018

              Yes, and guess what? Most of it still winds up at the dump. There is no difference to councils when it comes to disposing of such plastic.

              Please get with the programme and wake up.

    • And do read the history of the crossbow and its use in armed combat before you lay down the law about it and its use…

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      • Corky

         /  July 29, 2018

        Now you are an expert on the crossbow.

        Let me guess…in previous life you were a Knights Templar 😄

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        • Don’t be ridiculous.One hardly has to be an expert to know that you have no idea what you are talking about.

          Even a basic knowledge of English history would show that you are talking arrant nonsense. The crossbow was around in China long before it appeared in England. It never took over from the longbow because it was, heavy, slow to load, and was mainly used in sieges. Nor was it ever outlawed. You also seem to have little idea of what knighthood actually was and the numbers thereof.

          Artillery succeeded longbows.

          I’d suggest that you read a good book like one of mine, Lawrence James’ ‘Battle Race’ (a history of England at war) but if you consider Dickens’ ‘Great Expectations’ to be ‘cultured’, heaven knows what you’d make of a book written by an Oxford don.. It has 850+ pages (far more than Great Expectations)

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          • Corky

             /  July 29, 2018

            ”The crossbow was around in China long before it appeared in England.”

            That was a give away (lol).

            Please, I beg you. Take what is left of your tattered reputation and leave it for another day. Who knows, I may have to write my treatise tomorrow between postings. You would then have me at a disadvantage.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 29, 2018

              Bollocks.

              You can’t write a coherent paragraph, let alone a treatise.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 29, 2018

              Google it, you bloody fool.

          • Griff

             /  July 29, 2018

            Yip so I went for a surf
            Got distracted by The myth of the two finger salute aka up yours as a gesture by English bowmen to show the froggies they still had two fingers so could still kill them
            I found this dated from the fifteenth century .
            One of the guys to the right of the bowmen is giving those in the castle the fingers.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 29, 2018

              Alas, this is almost certainly an urban myth,

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 29, 2018

              Did you find the origin of the crossbow ? 😀

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 29, 2018

              Did you find the origin of the crossbow ? 😀

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  July 29, 2018

          Nobody was A Knights Templar; the Knights Templar were members of an organisation. Note the absence of the apostrophe, which shows that it’s not a possessive but a plural.

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    • PartisanZ

       /  July 29, 2018

      A thought-provoking post from you Corky …

      Two possibilities I reckon: One is … You’re right … I mean you are correct … In a nutshell, Conservatism correlates with Ignorance … or Ignorance causes Conservatism … (someone will do a thesis on it one day … the geographic limitations of Conservatism that globalization unwittingly undid …

      ‘Knowledge Expansion’ will prove the death-knell of Rightie-ism because as it expands knowledge tends towards encompassing the totality of human experience – with compassion and the mystery of life itself being such large components of that – just as economics tends inevitably towards true communism (communalism) and politics tends inevitably towards true socialism … Democratic Enterprise-Socialism …

      Especially given that [Enterprise-Socialism’s] computers and machines are already relieving us of the age old burden of work (as we know it) … the selling of our labour as though it was a mere commodity, like an article of use … with it’s value always and forever being minimized by ‘the profit motive’ …

      ‘Populism’ could be seen as the last rearguard action of Righties as awareness of its fate dawns …?

      The Second possibility, as I see it, is that the Righties will simply come back with something more powerful … such as the blunderbuss or musket was to the crossbow …

      I the realm of political ideology, I hate to think what that reactionary response or force may be …

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      • Corky

         /  July 29, 2018

        It’s a pity Kitty doesn’t have the mental maturity to understand my arguments, Parti. She equates my simple prose as ignorance. You on the other understand where I am coming from.

        Your point two is a real possibility. The thing is, groups who control such technologies have a problem. To use such weapons is to ‘show’ such weapons. And given our economies rely on the suppression of such things, it’s going to be a problem using them. Politically the public will be in revolt given such things could have helped the general population. So it could be a double whammy for Righties.

        Perhaps I should enjoy good wine, food and a cigar before such simple pleasures are removed from me for the greater good.

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        • Corky

           /  July 29, 2018

          *hand*

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          • Simple prose from the simple mind of a simpleton does indeed equate to ignorance. Who is likely to lack intellectual maturity – you or someone with three sets of letters after their name. one of which is MA (Hons) ?

            You have showed here that your knowledge of history is non-existent and haven’t the courage to admit that what you wrote is not only inaccurate, it’s nonsensical. You must know by now that I was right. Even Wikpedia would show you this.

            You totally confused council recycling with the soft plastics recycling collection bins in supermarkets and other places.

            You sneer at the idea that the crossbow originated in China, when this is a historic fact.

            Not only are you ignorant, you are too arrogant to admit it when you are proved wrong.

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  3. Corky

     /  July 29, 2018

    Seems my above post has pressed a red button. Don’t know why. Lefties should be rejoicing. However, it’s not in my nature to let anything suffer. It’s either a bullet or sage advice. Lucky in this case it’s the latter. This, in a way, carries on from Gezza’s article… provided you have the ability to extrapolate and relate the two.😄

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    • Sage advice from beetroot man ? 😀 😀 😀

      Other people are supposed to say that one’s advice is sage, if someone has to say it themselves, the odds are that it isn’t.

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      • Corky

         /  July 29, 2018

        Oh, such a bore. Obviously sage advice is lost on you. But that was expected. You haven’t got Great Expectations outside of War and Peace.😵😵😄

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  July 29, 2018

          Sage advice is not lost on me, but your opinionated twaddle is not sage or advice, It’s an ill-informed opinion.

          I’m glad that you agree that you are a bore.

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          • I suspect that you have read neither book .

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            • Corky

               /  July 29, 2018

              They make ‘cultured’ doorstops.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 29, 2018

              To the illiterate, they might well, Not to those who read.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 29, 2018

              Rather small doorstop in the case of GE.

              Have you ever read either ?

              Thought not.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 29, 2018

              God help anyone who sees having read these as ‘cultured’ rather than ordinarily well read.

  4. lurcher1948

     /  July 29, 2018

    When Sir Key appears on stage with the tempory leader of the opposition Simon Bridges all the old white grey heads will sigh and think of the glory days before Sir Key cut and ran away, followed by Bill English and ending up with Bridges,They will be sighing long and hard.

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    • Corky

       /  July 29, 2018

      The calm before the storm, Lurchy. Or in your case, the heat before the cold. Once Bridges is replaced things will be on track for a 2020 win. Don’t forget voters aren’t as tribal as they once where. Steady hands and best policy wins. Labour has neither.

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  5. lurcher1948

     /  July 29, 2018

    So has anyone seen what the free speech coalition going to do with the $80000? seen no news anywhere

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  6. lurcher1948

     /  July 29, 2018

    Swings and roundabouts….up down up down
    https://www.stats.govt.nz/indicators/gross-domestic-product-gdp

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  7. 1990 quotation from Auntie Winnie.

    ‘Oh, it’s not that I don’t want to be helpful. But in this case, the reply is that I don’t want to be helpful.’

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  8. lurcher1948

     /  July 29, 2018

    A lot of people remember the PM at the time Sir Key grovelled continually to the Australians, usually taking Australias side against any New Zealander in trouble, and as a reward for being a lap dog he got on the ANZ board for making life easy for Australian banks also all this grovelling was rewarded by Australia,Key is an Honorary Companion in the Order of Australia,so National being an Australian lap dog has rewards

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    • Blazer

       /  July 29, 2018

      two grinning Wall St lapdogs.

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    • PartisanZ

       /  July 29, 2018

      And if that’s the “rewards” … we sure ain’t looking forward to the punishments …

      Reply

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