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31 July 2018

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  1. Gezza

     /  July 31, 2018

    I posted a comment yesterday evening about watching the last minute or two of Winston Peters’ final Monday post-Cabinet Press briefing via Lurchy’s live link.

    Posted: https://yournz.org/2018/07/31/some-idiotic-female-reporter-versus-winston-peters/

  2. Corky

     /  July 31, 2018

    Weird Stuff With Corky:

    The news has reported Maori Tikanga has been breached by two orthopedic surgeons who graft bone for a dead body onto a recipient patient.

    A Maori spokesperson said a blessing and consent should have been sort because body parts; especially those of dead people, are tapu.

    Is there any reason why medical science should take heed of this heathen request? Well, maybe.

    http://curious-droid.com/54/5-cases-of-human-soul-transfers-after-organ-transplants/

    • Gezza

       /  July 31, 2018

      Weird Stuff With Corky:

      I’ll read that link later, bro. The uptick is for your headline.

      • Corky

         /  July 31, 2018

        Best you don’t read it. Thanks for the uptick.

  3. Corky

     /  July 31, 2018

    Immigrants storm ashore in Spain. What is not shown in the clip is a patrol boat doing nothing to stop these people landing. Western impotence at it best.

    Why doesn’t Europe just open their borders and get it over and done with? That way they can adapt faster to living in a Muslim country and teach their kids what to expect…which isn’t much.

    • Corky

       /  July 31, 2018

      I wonder if these migrants thought to bring a little food? Maybe some other small survival items? Or are they expecting an apartment, car and wife if they manage to make the welfare office?

    • Blazer

       /  July 31, 2018

      they thought it was the U.S marines…Somalia beach assault…replay!Bol.

      • Corky

         /  July 31, 2018

        You won’t be so amused when you are forced to say ‘Allah Is Great’ before fasting for Ramadan.

        • That is so unlikely to happen that it can safely be dismissed by anyone with any sense.

          • Corky

             /  July 31, 2018

            In New Zealand, at present, yes. In Europe within 50 years, no.

            • Corky

               /  July 31, 2018

              I had better clarify. My fault.

              Yes = I agree with you.
              No = disagree with you.

            • Says the person who thinks that crossbows were illegal and used to kill knights and that there is no recycling of plastic bags in NZ…

              I said that it could be safely dismissed by anyone with any sense, and it can be. There has been no sign of anything that would suggest it, but that is irrelevant to those whose reasoning powers are less well developed than those of the rest of us.

            • Corky

               /  July 31, 2018

              Stick with the issue. You have received your lumps concerning those topics. They are in the past. Don’t hold a grudge..move on.

              Point two: ”I said that it could be safely dismissed by anyone with any sense.”

              Stop the semantics and sarcasm. If you can’t debate, don’t post.

            • What on earth do you mean, my ‘lumps ‘? I have been proved right on those issues and you proved wrong., More nonsense from you.You won’t accept that the cliche you use means that the person accepts the consequences or punishment from their own actions.

              I don’t hold a grudge when I am right, who on earth would ? I am contemptuous of those who pigheadedly refuse to accept evidence that they are wrong and insist that they are not when they are proved beyond any doubt to be wrong.

              Semantics ? Do look up the meaning of that word.

            • Corky

               /  July 31, 2018

              Your comments seem to consist of asking me to look up the meaning of words; accept your new narrative about being proven right on topics where you have been proven wrong, and actually spending little time debating an issue. I now realise why obfuscation and semantics are your primary weapons. Like Mother Hubbard the cupboard is bare.

        • Your cupboard is indeed barem and has been for some time..

          Do you still seriously believe that you were right about the weapons and plastic recycling, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary, as well as about who knows how many other things where evidence proves you wrong or shows that you have simply fabricated something ?

          Only a fool keeps using words whose meanings they don’t know.

    • lurcher1948

       /  July 31, 2018

      Move far quicker than your average Spaniard

    • Corky

       /  July 31, 2018

      Take two: If this was to happen in Aotearoa, Maori would provide a warm reception for these people. After a good hiding they would be dragged back out to sea with or without a boat. The injured refugee in this clip at 2.50 probably thinks he’s seeing the first of the promised virgins he will be receiving. Ironically, he is the lucky one. Medical help. Warm shelter for the night. Welfare tomorrow.

      On another note. A family friend married a Moroccan without having been to Morocco. I explained to her POSSIBLE problems she may encounter as a women. She was lucky. Her husband was reasonably liberal for a Muslim. However, they separated, albeit on good terms, because of the lack of other women she could communicate with. She said it was not unusual where she was living to see only men in the street. Her mother inlaw was good to her. Albeit a few clashes on how things should be done. Our family friend took her mother inlaw to task for doing every chore for her husband. The mother inlaw saw nothing wrong with that So that was probably a western perception of servitude.

      ake two: If this was to happen in Aotearoa, Maori would provide a warm reception for these people. After a good hiding they would be dragged back out to sea with or without a boat. The injured refugee in this clip at 2.50 probably thinks he’s seeing the first of the promised virgins he will be receiving. Ironically, he is the lucky one. Medical help. Warm shelter for the night. Welfare tomorrow.

      On another note. A family friend married a Moroccan without having been to Morocco. I explained to her POSSIBLE problems she may encounter as a women. She was lucky. Her husband was reasonably liberal for a Muslim. However, they separated, albeit on good terms, because of the lack of other women she could communicate with. She said it was not unusual where she was living to see only men in the street. Her mother inlaw was good to her. Albeit a few clashes on how things should be done. Our family friend took her mother inlaw to task for doing every chore for her husband. The mother inlaw saw nothing wrong with her actions. So that was probably a western perception of servitude.

      • Corky

         /  July 31, 2018

        Take one away from two and you will be kapai. Don’t know what went wrong there.

        • Gezza

           /  July 31, 2018

          Too bloody late to tell us that now. I ploughed thru looking for any significant differences in v.2! 😡

  4. Corky

     /  July 31, 2018

    Mark Sainsbury: What would you do if you saw someone burning our flag?

    Marama Davidson: I would first be worried about the fire hazard. I believe it’s more important what we do as a national and not so much the flag that is important ( paraphrased).

    What a halfwit. As if a Nation and its flag are separate issues. I wonder what would happen if I tried to high-jack the McDonald’s logo for my hamburger shop? After all; it’s only a logo. It only stands for a type of hamburger.

    • Blazer

       /  July 31, 2018

      turn it upside down and hi jack the Wimpy’s hamburger I.D…instead.

      • Corky

         /  July 31, 2018

        You have no problem with people burning our flag?

        • Blazer

           /  July 31, 2018

          National wanted to burn it….and bring out a new one…no big deal.

          • Corky

             /  July 31, 2018

            Asking a nation whether a new flag is appropriate is not showing disrespect to an old flag by burning it with malice,

    • Patzcuaro

       /  July 31, 2018

      Perhaps find out why they are burning the flag.

      • The McDonald’s logo is a company logo, not just a ‘type of hamburger’, It has been registered and paid for, so using it would be theft.

        • Corky

           /  July 31, 2018

          ”The McDonald’s logo is a company logo, not just a ‘type of hamburger’’

          Wrong. The McDonald’s logo is a hamburger and the associated culture that logo represents.

          That logo is inculcated into the subconscious minds of billions of people. Without it McDonald’s doesn’t exist. It just becomes another hamburger joint.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  July 31, 2018

            Oh, bollocks. It’s a company logo and you are reading far too much into it.

            • Corky

               /  July 31, 2018

              I beg to differ. If you put people in a room and showed then famous company logos, even band logo’s, they would all respond with roughly the
              same answer. These symbols evoke mind images and desires.

              Ever heard the saying: ”You are just paying for the brand.” That literally is true. You can have a product better than a brand name..but trying convincing a teenager.

              Here’s a logo symbol. What comes into your mind when you see it?

              http://1000logos.net/rolling-stones-logo/

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 31, 2018

              The name is on the link, you dimwit. What comes into my mind is that you are a clodpoll who uses apostrophes for plurals.

              Of course logos are intended to identify a product. Have you just discovered that ?

              But a logo of itself is a symbol and just that. Otherwise every company with a logo would be a success.

            • Corky

               /  July 31, 2018

              ”The name is on the link, you dimwit.”

              Yes, that was for you. Keeping it literal. After all, let me guess, you don’t have a subconscious mind.

              ”What comes into my mind is that you are a clodpoll who uses apostrophes for plurals.”

              What can I say. The paid versions of grammar checks are too expensive..and the free ones leave intentional mistakes to make you buy the paid versions. But , hey..feather in your hat.

              ”Of course logos are intended to identify a product. Have you just discovered that ?”

              Wrong- they are used mainly to drive a brand culture into you subconscious mind. That they identify a product is a given. My fault, I wasn’t literal enough.

              ”But a logo of itself is a symbol and just that. Otherwise every company with a logo would be a success.”

              Now, finally after the denigration, you actually write something of note that may have been an interesting debate.

              But why should I waste my time on a Prat?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 31, 2018

              You must be sad that the Stones have taken a big open mouth for their logo so that you can’t have it as your own logo.

              I doubt if you did any more than copy the existing words of the link. More empty boasting.

              It could not be an interesting debate with someone whose mind is closed to the possibility that they might not always be right, and who is mired in their own conceit as you appear to be,

              You contradict for the sake of it, even contradicting yourself. One minute something is wrong….the next it isn’t.

              Why should you waste your time on a prat ? You expect everyone else to.

              Have you ever considered having your own blog where you could hog the posts and lay down the law * unchallenged by the better educated and better informed ?

              * a saying. It is not used literally.

            • Corky

               /  July 31, 2018

              * Unchallenged by the better educated and better informed ?

              😂😂😂

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 31, 2018

              That means almost everyone, in your case….your own blog would mean that you could hold the floor uninterrupted, unchallenged and unread by anyone but you.

              😀 😀 😀

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 31, 2018

              Yes, people to whom reading Dickens & Tolstoy (especially Dickens, forsooth ) is quite ordinary and not a sign of ‘culture’. 😀 😀 😀

          • Blazer

             /  July 31, 2018

            what about…Ronald?

            • Corky

               /  July 31, 2018

              What about him? Was he arrested for drunk driving?

            • Blazer

               /  July 31, 2018

              no Ronald was caught in a compromising situation with…Wendy.

            • High Flying Duck

               /  July 31, 2018

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  July 31, 2018

            Their logo is the ‘golden arches’, not a hamburger, The hamburger is one of their products, and these were around long before McDonalds was thought of. Meat in bread has been around since time immemorial, despite the erroneous belief that it was invented by Lord Sandwich in the c.18.

            Inculcation is meaningless in this context. I would suggest that you look it up.

            How would anyone know how many billions of people have a logo in their subconscious ? More nonsense.

          • Griff.

             /  July 31, 2018

            FFS it is debatable McD’s is even food .

            Do you want reconstituted extrusion that includes a small proportion of potato scraps fried in toxic palm oil to go with your meat like chemically reclaimed from abattoir floor sweepings burger?

            I dont eat the shit unless no other option exists.

            • Blazer

               /  July 31, 2018

              the meat is actually very good.Pure ground aussie beef.

            • Griff.

               /  July 31, 2018

              I knew there was some problem with the meat.
              Ground up Kangaroo.
              It probably has herpes like most AU wildlife.
              At lest Kiwis keep to sheep and dont inflect their entire ecology with STD’s.

            • High Flying Duck

               /  July 31, 2018

              Aussie meat in Aussie. NZ meat in NZ…

              “We use only 100% pure beef sourced from farmers in regions such as King Country and Canterbury to create the tastiest burger around.”

      • Gezza

         /  July 31, 2018

        Perhaps find out why they are burning the flag.

        Yes, me too. If they had some point I agreed with that made burning the flag somehow relevant, I’d probably just jog on unconcerned. So would my old man, the WW2 vet have done. He might’ve added “silly buggers’.

        If they did it at a solemn ceremony to remember our war dead in the wars we’ve fought in as a nation, I’d be pissed off with them. I’d say as much if I got the chance. Then I’d jog on as usual.

        I couldn’t see the point in charging them with an offence against the Flag Act or something, but if someone did I wouldn’t care. They’d probably get off anyway. Flags get burned by people who don’t care about what they might mean to others. It’s free expression. I’m pretty for that.

  5. lurcher1948

     /  July 31, 2018

    So Sanitarium a 100% Australian company OWNED by the 7th day adventist church,a wacko cult WHO PAYS NO TAX IN NZ,but some in their homeland australia is crushing a small NEW ZEALAND store,SICK..Winston or Jacinda time to make these australians pay their FAIR share of TAXES hum…7th day adventist church…dont drink the kool aid
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/small-business/94242031/weetbix-trademark-stoush-christchurch-minimart-owner-rejects-sanitariums-offer-to-sell-blanked-out-weetabix

  6. Blazer

     /  July 31, 2018

    tough job…

  7. lurcher1948

     /  July 31, 2018

    Simon Bridges will need to smoke a mars bar after this stuff up, brain and mouth needs syncing
    https://t.co/GAkNLhUJ48
    those jackals heads are coming up

    • Blazer

       /  July 31, 2018

      Helen Clark has been out of NZ politics for a decade…who cares?