Kingi controversy re inquiry into the appointment of Wally Haumaha

Questions were raised over the independence of Dr Pauline Kingi , who was appointed as chair of the Government inquiry into the appointment of Wally Haumaha as the Deputy Commissioner of Police. It was claimed that Kingi had ‘endorsed’ Hauhama on his LinkedIn profile 23 times.

There was a reaction of surprise and concern on Twitter and in Parliament.

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Pauline Kingi is leading an investigation into the process that led to Mr Haumaha being made deputy police commisssioner – despite comments he made defending police officers accused of rape in 2004.

Dr Kingi has endorsed 23 of Mr Haumaha’s skills on the professional networking platform LinkedIn, including law enforcement, crime prevention and leadership development.

National’s police spokesperson Chris Bishop said that constituted a conflict of interest and she must go.

“She simply has no credibility to chair the inquiry. It’s a blatant conflict of interest, she must stand down or Tracey Martin must sack her,” he said.

Ms Martin is the minister overseeing the inquiry, and said Dr Kingi signed a form declaring there was no conflict of interest.

Martin made some odd statements in her defence of Kingi.

Ms Martin said she was frustrated that National had sunk to this level.

“A LinkedIn profile, a networking digital platform, that somehow is supposed to be the judge of a person’s character? Have you seen this lady’s CV?” she asked.

Ms Martin said the suggestion that liking somebody on Facebook or endorsing them on LinkedIn made somebody unqualified was frustrating.

Endorsing someone many times does raise valid questions about their independence.

Acting Prime Minister Winston Peters described LinkedIn as a career enhancing utility. He said everyone endorsed everyone else, and the only person that had not been endorsed happened to be himself – because he did not have a profile.

That’s crap. I’m on LinkedIn and I don’t recall having endorsed anyone. Certainly nowhere near 23 times for one person.

Mr Peters said he had complete confidence in Dr Kingi and the process.

“It’s not like writing a fully-fledged reference, and sending it off with a signature on it. It’s social media after all and you know how skitterish that can be.”

That’s a skitterish defence.

11. CHRIS BISHOP (National—Hutt South) to the Minister of Internal Affairs: Does she have confidence in the process that led to the appointment of Dr Pauline Kingi as chair of the Government inquiry into the appointment of Wally Haumaha as the Deputy Commissioner of Police?

Hon TRACEY MARTIN (Minister of Internal Affairs): Firstly, the premise of the question is incorrect—there is no inquiry into Mr Haumaha. There is, however, a Government inquiry into the appointment process for a Deputy Commissioner of Police. Having said that, I can confirm that the process used to establish the independent Government inquiry into the appointment process for a Deputy Commissioner of Police is the same as that used for the chair of any other inquiry. It is a process run by the Department of Internal Affairs and supported by other agencies. It is the same process established by the previous National Government in November 2009, and was updated by the National Government in 2013 and used by that Government to establish the whey protein concentrate contamination incident in 2013, the royal commission of inquiry on the Pike River coal mine tragedy in 2012, and the Government inquiry into the Havelock North drinking water.

Chris Bishop: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. That was an interesting traverse through the last few years of Government inquiries, but it didn’t really go to the question of whether or not the Minister has confidence in the process.

Mr SPEAKER: I think it did. Does the member have a supplementary?

Chris Bishop: How can she have confidence in the process that appointed Dr Pauline Kingi when she has publicly endorsed Mr Wally Haumaha 23 times for a range of attributes, including for leadership, governance, public safety, crime prevention, and stakeholder management?

Hon TRACEY MARTIN: Dr Kingi has declared that she knew Mr Haumaha in a professional capacity when she was a highly respected public servant. She has also declared that she attended a tangi either in 2015 or 2016—[Interruption]

Mr SPEAKER: Order! The member will resume her seat. This is a very important answer that goes to the integrity of at least two people, and will be heard in silence.

Hon TRACEY MARTIN: Dr Kingi has declared that she knew of Mr Haumaha in a professional capacity when she was a highly respected public servant. She has also declared that she attended a tangi in either 2015 or 2016 that Mr Haumaha also attended. Dr Kingi has signed, as is standard procedure, a declaration confirming that she has no conflict of interest in relation to the appointment—which, I remind the member, is into the process by the State Services Commission around appointment processes. If the member if asking if LinkedIn is a usual port of call for Government departments to ascertain the suitability of an inquiry chair, than I would have to say no. Rather than resort to social media, this Government looks to the substantial CVs of candidates and the fullness of their service to their communities and their country, and Dr Kingi is a New Zealander that has given great service to her country. I would suggest this is why the 1999 Shipley-led National Government awarded Dr Kingi the Companion of the New Zealand Order of Merit.

Chris Bishop: When Dr Pauline Kingi was appointed to lead the independent inquiry into the appointment process around Mr Wally Haumaha, was she aware that Dr Kingi had publicly endorsed Mr Haumaha 23 times on LinkedIn, for every skill Mr Haumaha has listed on that website, and in some cases being the only person to endorse him, and that Mr Haumaha has endorsed Dr Kingi on at least three occasions for her skills listed on the LinkedIn website?

Hon TRACEY MARTIN: I was unaware of the LinkedIn endorsements until my office was contacted by media this morning. I requested that the chief executive contact Dr Kingi to clarify the suggested conflict. While Dr Kingi could not remember making these endorsements, she did confirm—

Hon Members: Ha, ha!

Hon TRACEY MARTIN: This is important. Would you like to listen? The integrity of a highly respected public servant is being questioned; it’s important that her answers be placed on the record. She did confirm that she had, like many New Zealanders, set up a LinkedIn account when it was first launched, and that at time it was—

Hon Simon Bridges: Are you that useless?

Hon TRACEY MARTIN: —common practice for Māori professionals to—

Mr SPEAKER: Order! The member will resume her seat. The Leader of the Opposition will stand, withdraw, and apologise.

Hon Simon Bridges: I withdraw and apologise.

Hon TRACEY MARTIN: It was common practice at that time—16 years ago—for Māori professionals to support each other on this new medium, through endorsement.

Rt Hon Winston Peters: Is it a fact that not only did Dr Pauline Kingi get a substantial honour from the National Party, but so did Wallace Haumaha—not once but twice?

Mr SPEAKER: Order! This member has no responsibility for that.

Chris Bishop: Further to that answer, is the member aware that the endorsement function on LinkedIn was only invented and established in 2012, so references to LinkedIn profiles 15 years ago are an utter irrelevance?

Hon TRACEY MARTIN: My understanding is that LinkedIn was developed in 2002, 16 years ago. It may be that the member is more au fait with social media than I am because I spend most of my time working on things important to New Zealand, not on Twitter.

Chris Bishop: Can the Minister give a categorical assurance that Dr Pauline Kingi was not involved in recommending promotions or appointments of Mr Haumaha in her role as a member of the Auckland district advisory taumata and her role assisting the Auckland district police with police recruitment?

Hon TRACEY MARTIN: I can give an assurance of the complete and proper process around the appointment of Dr Kingi as the chair of an independent inquiry into the process by which the State Services Commission provides information to Ministers for appointment. I can also direct the member to the Office of the Auditor-General’s Managing conflicts of interest: Guidance for public entities if he would like to avail himself of that information with regard to how conflict of interest is managed in this country.

 

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32 Comments

  1. Blazer

     /  August 1, 2018

    Completely unacceptable.
    These processes must at least look like they are fair and impartial.

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    • Corky

       /  August 1, 2018

      I said at the time this woman would be a problem. As you say, it’s about perceptions.

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  August 1, 2018

        I believe you took quite a lot of stick from Sir Gezz on that matter as well.
        Your reasons why she would be a problem were also spot on.

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        • Gezza

           /  August 1, 2018

          That’s not ringing any bells with me. Tracey Martin’s not someone who’s really registered on my radar as notably worthy of comment.

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          • Gezza

             /  August 1, 2018

            PS: Pretty sure you’ll find I only give Corks stick when he’s talkng bollocks.

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            • High Flying Duck

               /  August 1, 2018

              Can’t find the comments (i think they were in a media watch or open forum) but it was something along the lines of the Maori connection would stuff everything up and she would be discredited because of it.

              You called complete BS on that view.

            • Gezza

               /  August 1, 2018

              Nup. No bells. Might have been some broad comment on Corks general Maori-bashing perhaps. You’ll have to find it.

            • Gezza

               /  August 1, 2018

              Maybe pop “Kitty” into your search query as well?

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  August 1, 2018

        Why does Google do such a crap job of indexing this site? I’m guessing it’s related to its new feature of displaying only the posts and not the comments while trying to keep you on its own site.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  August 1, 2018

      This government is unforgiveable when it makes me give B an uptick.

      Reply
  2. David

     /  August 1, 2018

    Terrible political management, Martin should have thrown Kingi under the bus and found someone else and the story would die really quickly, inevitably she will have to fire Kingi otherwise Martin ends up with a biased report or the guy is fine and the hurt starts again. One may conclude this was a grubby appointment and Kingi has been brought in to white wash the whole thing.

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  3. David

     /  August 1, 2018

    I see Trev is still a shit speaker and running interference for the government. I dont watch anymore the whole thing is pointless..and I dont judge Bridges in this forum either.

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  4. Martin is just being interviewed on Morning Report.

    She repeated the fact that people she doesn’t know have ‘endorsed’ her on LinkedIn.

    But this is nonsense. It is not an issue of being endorsed by others. This is an issue of a supposedly independent inquiry chair endorsing the person at the centre of the inquiry.

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  6. Gezza

     /  August 1, 2018

    Kingi needs to be gone by lunchtime tomorrow. Tracey Martin in 2020.

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  7. sorethumb

     /  August 1, 2018

    Witch Hunt. Rape. I was always skeptical of Louise Nichols.

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    • sorethumb

       /  August 1, 2018

      Having said that I suppose it was because they were police.

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  August 1, 2018

        What about the other woman who was raped – the one they did get convicted over? Were you sceptical of her as well?

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        • sorethumb

           /  August 1, 2018

          I didn’t know about her. I just recall at the time thinking that she allowed the young policemen back. I thought maybe they were getting mixed messages. I didn’t give much thought to their police training.

          Reply
  8. High Flying Duck

     /  August 1, 2018

    Well she’s stepped down…which NZF puppet will be up next to lead the inquiry?

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    • duperez

       /  August 1, 2018

      That’s not really important. What is important is that Chris Bishop knows that his life has been worthwhile.

      (That’s the sort of thing that comes to one’s mind after spending the morning at a funeral.)

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    • Gezza

       /  August 1, 2018

      How do you know that?

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      • Gezza

         /  August 1, 2018

        Lazy blighter, HFD. She must have been listening to ZB. One of their hosts said around midday that if he was her he’d pack it in now & “run for the hills, away from these amateurs”.

        Dr Pauline Kingi has stepped down from the inquiry into the appointment of deputy police commissioner Wally Haumaha, amid controversy about her ties to the man.

        The shock announcement was made inside the debating chamber at Parliament and comes after extended calls from National MPs she be stood down over a perceived conflict of interest that stems from a number “endorsements” she had given to Haumaha on the social networking site Linkedin.

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/105929505/chair-of-wally-haumaha-inquiry-steps-down-amid-controversy

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      • duperez

         /  August 1, 2018

        The look on his face. It didn’t quite get to the, “My work is done here” level, but close.
        The subsequent questions he asked were a bit like asking the Blues captain questions after a game. The fumbling around to come up with something cogent said more than the answers.

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        • Gezza

           /  August 1, 2018

          It was a bit kicking the opponent when they’ve hit the deck, & but it was because she kept sort of saying “I won this fight, really, even though I’m on the ground”.

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  9. PDB

     /  August 1, 2018

    “Hon TRACEY MARTIN: It was common practice at that time—16 years ago—for Māori professionals to support each other on this new medium, through endorsement.”

    “Chris Bishop: Further to that answer, is the member aware that the endorsement function on LinkedIn was only invented and established in 2012, so references to LinkedIn profiles 15 years ago are an utter irrelevance?”

    Hilarious!

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    • Blazer

       /  August 1, 2018

      hilarious bullshit …beat the Bishop…

      ‘Founded‎: ‎December 28, 2002; 15 years ago; …
      Employees‎: ‎11,800 (2018) Headquarters‎: ‎Sunnyvale, California‎, U.S

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      • Gezza

         /  August 1, 2018

        And the fact that you couldn’t do any endorsements on it 15 years ago – only from 2012?
        What’s your thinking on that one?

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        • Blazer

           /  August 1, 2018

          I’m thinking this is still b/s…’so references to LinkedIn profiles 15 years ago are an utter irrelevance?”’…your thoughts.

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          • Gezza

             /  August 1, 2018

            Chris Bishop didn’t just wing Tracey he scored a bullseye. The less she said the better off she would’ve been.

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          • PDB

             /  August 1, 2018

            Forbes – Dec 2013: “Since LinkedIn introduced its endorsements feature more than a year ago….

            https://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2013/12/24/everything-you-need-to-know-about-linkedin-endorsements-2/#9a662742b877

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            • Blazer

               /  August 1, 2018

              ‘. Essentially, the idea is to create as many direct connections as you can by adding people within your own professional circle and branching out to include their connections. Your connections can also provide introductions to other professionals you might be interested in meeting. Connections can also endorse you for skills and provide you with recommendations.’

              you can use the ‘mass surveillance’/bulk collection’ argument here…references/endorsement…

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