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5 August 2018

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  1. Gerrit

     /  August 5, 2018

    More “open and transparent” rhetoric from the CoL.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/105705660/officials-advised-the-government-to-keep-quiet-about-large-treaty-of-waitangi-payments-unless-asked

    No money for nurses but an open honey pot for never ending treaty settlements.

    Ah well, Monday tomorrow so get to work you tax payers, someone needs your dosh and it is not to top up nurses or teachers or police or firefighters pay.

    No we secretly give it out to the treaty gravy train.

    Welcome back to the real world Ardern. No pretty baby opportunities will deflect the growing discontent. Time to put the big girls pants on.

    • Blazer

       /  August 5, 2018

      Treaty issues need to be resolved.

      And no beads ,blankets and fire water are not required…these days.

  2. chrism56

     /  August 5, 2018

    For those who believe that batteries and solar/ wind renewables (Come in Griff) will mean we don’t have to burn fossil fuels, researchers at MIT says it won’t work unless we fork out megabucks.
    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/611683/the-25-trillion-reason-we-cant-rely-on-batteries-to-clean-up-the-grid/
    As the link says “. The authors of the 2016 study found steeply diminishing returns when a lot of battery storage is added to the grid. They concluded that coupling battery storage with renewable plants is a “weak substitute” for large, flexible coal or natural-gas combined-cycle plants, the type that can be tapped at any time, run continuously, and vary output levels to meet shifting demand throughout the day.”
    So the decision to limit gas exploration will have an effect in raising electricity prices.

    • High Flying Duck

       /  August 5, 2018

      And this inconvenient truth also knocks a hole in the batteries will save us all rhetoric :

      “Over the past 20 years, the cost of these batteries has fallen 30 times while the energy stored in them has more than tripled. This trend is about to stop as evolving batteries to be better and smaller has meant that the amount of charge able to be stored within the gaps of the electrodes is nearing its maximum, according to theoretical calculations.

      Another challenge is that in order to function lithium-ion batteries require rare metals, which are becoming more scarce and expensive. If we keep making lithium-ion batteries at the same rates we have been, then demand of cobalt and nickel, which are used to make the electrodes, will outstrip production within the next 20 years.”

      Li batteries are also hard to recycle and don’t have a lengthy lifespan.

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=12099926

      • Blazer

         /  August 5, 2018

        this is an interesting piece about an interesting country ..rich in resources…

        https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24396390

        • High Flying Duck

           /  August 5, 2018

          That was interesting.
          Never trust a Belgian!
          They needed to be invaded properly and had decent infrastructure and legal systems put in place like most of Europe and the UK were in the distant past.
          Without western democracy and rule of law it is almost impossible to succeed.

          • Blazer

             /  August 5, 2018

            did you miss this…”Sucked into these rivalries, the struggling Congolese leader, Patrice Lumumba, was horrifically beaten and executed by Western-backed rebels. A military strongman, Joseph-Desire Mobutu, who had a few years before been a sergeant in the colonial police force, took over.

            Mobutu became a tyrant. In 1972 he changed his name to Mobutu Sese Seko Nkuku Ngbendu Wa Za Banga, meaning “the all-powerful warrior who, because of his endurance and inflexible will to win, goes from conquest to conquest, leaving fire in his wake”.

            The West tolerated him as long as the minerals flowed and the Congo was kept out of the Soviet orbit.

            He, his family and friends bled the country of billions of dollars, a $100m palace was built in the most remote jungle at Gbadolite, an ultra-long airstrip next to it was designed to take Concorde, which was duly chartered for shopping trips to Paris.’

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  August 5, 2018

          Yes. British colonialism and Empire looks pretty good alongside the alternatives.

          • Blazer

             /  August 5, 2018

            there have been no alternatives in your life time.
            The lesser of 2 evils is a specious ..argument.

            They slaughtered 1 million..we only slaughtered 800,000= we are a better alternative!

  3. Blazer

     /  August 5, 2018
    • Nobody has said that there was none, and NZ’s corruption-free status is independently assessed, not done by NZERs/

      This is one case; one is a very small number. It’s about a specific issue. It proves nothing except that it happened.

  4. David

     /  August 5, 2018

    Bitter man hater and failed talkback host Ali Mau has got herself all giddy about being first to meet Neve Gayford and gush,s forth while simultaneously telling everyone off without any sense of self awareness in Stuff today. The comments are scathing and better written and more insightful than the article.
    If the idiots in the media would please get over it and stop telling people off for focusing on the baby when its them we can all get on with running the country because that is all most kiwis actually care about.

    • Gezza

       /  August 5, 2018

      A link would be good next time. By the time I’ve crawled thru stuff to find it the FiP will have crashes the browser so often I give up & forget it.

      I’m surprised they haven’t closed comments already. The last couple of articles I bothered to read on stuff said “comments on this have closed” (or similar) & they weren’t even visible.

      Stuff is turning more snd moe into a pile of infotainment & women’s mag shite. Something about naked women reading (with appropriate pics of women’s bums – some daft play or something – was side-headlining there earlier. Herald’s not far behind (excuse the pun).

      • Gezza

         /  August 5, 2018

        Look never mind. I found it. There’s 3 articles Jacinda & baby related. I skimmed Aly’s and flagged it away. Not interested in the lesbian/bi perspective or any of them.

  5. unitedtribes2

     /  August 5, 2018

    Yesterday I mentioned the implications of foreshore erosion were the coastal reserve shrunk and the adjacent property boundary was fixed. Imagine if the Takapuna Beach eroded (or the sea level raised) to an extent that the median tide line was now on the boundary of the adjacent property. This would mean that the adjacent properties would effectively have riparian rights to the exclusion of the public.

    • I’d like to hear about real cases and what provision has been made.It’s likely that these are few; one must hope so.

      Ir will go around in circles. The land was bought in good faith; is it now riparian land, so free to all, or is it still de jure the private property of the owner although it is de facto riparian ?

  6. lurcher1948

     /  August 5, 2018

    A Maori whitewasher of their genocidal deeds called Keri Mills says the Moriori were a myth and the demise of the Moriori after been invaded by Taranaki Maori shouldn’t be a stain against the NZ Maori, just like us whities conquering the Maori

    n 1835 a group of about 900 Taranaki Māori (from Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama) sailed from Wellington to the Chathams, with the intention to make it their new home. They had recently been driven out of their own rohe during the Musket Wars. Shortly after they arrived they killed around 300 Moriori and enslaved the rest. So yes, some Māori did kill some Moriori, and the story is an awful one – but to attribute this to all Māori is wrong, and if you find yourself wanting to do it you should question your motives in doing so.
    Just like the CONQUERING PAKEHA/WHITIES

  7. sorethumb

     /  August 5, 2018

    Egalia, a new state-sponsored pre-school in Stockholm, is dedicated to the total obliteration of the male and female distinction. There are no boys and girls at Egalia—just “friends” and “buddies.” Classic fairy tales like Cinderella and Snow White have been replaced by tales of two male giraffes who parent abandoned crocodile eggs. The Swedish Green Party would like Egalia to be the norm: It has suggested placing gender watchdogs in all of the nation’s preschools. “Egalia gives [children] a fantastic opportunity to be whoever they want to be,” says one excited teacher. (It is probably necessary to add that this is not an Orwellian satire or a right-wing fantasy: This school actually exists.)
    https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2012/12/you-can-give-a-boy-a-doll-but-you-cant-make-him-play-with-it/265977/