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10 August 2018

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  1. lurcher1948

     /  August 10, 2018

    Anyone raising money for the Massey University VC facing the wrath of the so called Free Speech Coalition who want her scalp nailed to their wall

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    • Corky

       /  August 10, 2018

      We need that trophy scalp, Lurchy. Once we have that scalp, many other scalps will follow. That will create fear of being scalped. That means officials will think twice about banning free speech. That means RIGHTIES will march to victory. And you know what they say, Lurchy… success breeds success.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  August 10, 2018

      He doesn’t mention the fall in the NZ$ is already adding transport and fuel costs to Labour’s array of new taxes. The economy is circling the plug hole while Ardern flannels.

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  2. Blazer

     /  August 10, 2018

    yes they are really pushing this line.
    Trying to undermine the fiscal prudence of the Col is the preferred strategy.The Herald is full of compliant shills…Hooten,Hosking,ex bank ‘economists’,Fran ‘please don’t sack me’ ,etc,etc

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    • Gezza

       /  August 10, 2018

      Impossible. I have it on good authority The Herald is chock full of lefties. These must all be forgeries.

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      • PartisanZ

         /  August 10, 2018

        In other words, you have it on the “good authority” of Righties that the Herald is chocka with Lefties … therefore it must be true …

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        • Gezza

           /  August 10, 2018

          Well it would be except that I have on equally good authority that the bloody thing’s chocka with Righties. So

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          • PartisanZ

             /  August 10, 2018

            Adrift in the post-modern virtual cosmos …

            Faced with only one REAL option … Make up your own mind!

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  3. Blazer

     /  August 10, 2018

    and some more…

    Kiwibank slashed its forecasts for the strength of the kiwi over the next year describing it as an “endangered species” for financial markets.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/106160053/reserve-banks-interest-rate-call-sends-nz-dollar-tumbling

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    • PartisanZ

       /  August 10, 2018

      There must surely be healthy economies currencies that don’t get traded (speculated on) like the Kiwi?

      It might be a good thing to go extinct?

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  4. lurcher1948

     /  August 10, 2018

    Tried entering the free speech coalition site and it’s now classed as an unsafe site,check it out.

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  5. sorethumb

     /  August 10, 2018

    Bring back Frogblog [Robert Guyton?]

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    • robertguyton

       /  August 10, 2018

      Too late, sore thumb; creatures with sensitive skins are being monster by circumstance and the gentle, crushed; the meek may well inherit the earth, but first they must be brought to the brink of extinction.

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  6. Blazer

     /  August 10, 2018

    more hardworking Kiwi’s…
    ‘A typical director spends 127 hours a year on board matters in what’s ostensibly a part-time position compared to 106 hours last year and 88 hours in 2014, according to the Insitute of Directors and EY directors’ fees report 2018. EY New Zealand partner Una Diver says that time spent is probably under-reported given directors are responding to things in real-time.

    For that time, the median fee is $45,000, up just 2.3 percent from a year earlier, while taking on legal liability accompanying fiduciary duties and health and safety requirements. About 58 percent of non-executive directors surveyed said they were happy with that pay.

    “The breadth of kinds of risks directors are having to focus on and are expected to be on top of is far greater than the past,” Diver said.

    The report canvases 2,158 directorships, 792 Institute of Directors members and 1,546 organisations spanning listed and unlisted company, not-for-profit entities, statutory boards and state-owned enterprises. ‘S/Chat..

    hmmm…$354.33 an hour.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  August 10, 2018

      Since they must now self insure absolute liability for anything that can go wrong, what on earth did you expect?

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      • Blazer

         /  August 10, 2018

        never stopped them taking any responsibility before…won’t now.

        Feltex,Dick Smith 2 good examples.

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  7. David

     /  August 10, 2018

    Well that didnt take long. At least we have cute baby photo,s to look at if we get tired of looking into Robertsons huge hole.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12104552

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12104534

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    • PDB

       /  August 10, 2018

      Essentially to sum up the economy is only temporarily being stopped going down the toilet because of the strong books the National govt handed over to the current mob. Even then Robertson has been borrowed to date an extra $6.5 billion through back channels that don’t show up on official borrowing measurements to help fund key govt services they didn’t allow for in their pre-election budget.

      Now lets talk about more important stuff like Gayford’s next DIY project now he has built a deck…

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      • Blazer

         /  August 10, 2018

        Big debt jacked up by National…for future generations to pay off.
        On going tweaking when the Col should just run big deficits.
        The ponzi scheme will collapse sooner or later,borrow now .
        At the rate of real inflation its a cheap…trick.

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        • PDB

           /  August 10, 2018

          From the article: “Fiscal surpluses are projected for the next five years. Net debt is around 20 per cent of GDP and low by world standards.”

          Without the earthquakes we’d have one of the lowest debt to GDP in the world.

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    • Corky

       /  August 10, 2018

      Holy Moly, Dave. I had my eye off the ball. This is going to impact heavily on my overseas spending. Cheap Doc Martens are out.

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      • PDB

         /  August 10, 2018

        The living wage will need to go up to cover the extra expense of taking yearly overseas holidays.

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        • Corky

           /  August 10, 2018

          Lots of unhappy voters who have grown accustomed to good times under National.

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          • Blazer

             /  August 10, 2018

            ‘good times’…property inflation and immigration masking reality.

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            • Corky

               /  August 10, 2018

              The political polls say different, Blazer. Are you saying the polls are rigged?

          • PartisanZ

             /  August 10, 2018

            The political polls aren’t rigged. They simply [literally “in the most simplest possible way”] represent the absurd, hyper-polarised ‘false dichotomy’ of majority rule whereby, for instance, a 51% majority decision foisted upon a 49% minority is somehow seen as a “win” by someone …

            If in your extended family you were told, “You’re family can succeed but only by leaving behind a fraction less than half of them”, would you take the option on offer …?

            The society we have today developed from familial bonds in the settlement and village …

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            • Gezza

               /  August 10, 2018

              If in your extended family you were told, “You’re family can succeed but only by leaving behind a fraction less than half of them”, would you take the option on offer …?

              Who would get made that offer in a family? Why would you want to leave a fraction of them behind if they could all succeed at something? We make choices.

              The society we have today developed from familial bonds in the settlement and village …

              A long, long way back, when we all lived in the same settlement and village or area. Now we have cities and transport systems and more freedom to travel. We made choices. As time progresses, people make other choices. The next generations may make different ones.

            • PartisanZ

               /  August 10, 2018

              I doubt if “we’re” going to allow them to make REAL choices Gezza … Their’s will be similitude or ‘hollowgraphic’ choices I fear.

              We’re on ‘Systems Maintenance Autopilot Retrograde Trajectory’

              SMART

  8. Alan Wilkinson

     /  August 10, 2018
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    • Corky

       /  August 10, 2018

      They couldn’t wait to give this Infidel woman a good lesson on Muslim ways. Women are to be seen and not heard. Let this be a lesson to Western tarts. You may have rights in the West, but in our country you have none.

      We let Muslims into our country and everyone says: ‘they have caused no trouble.’ But what happens when they gain a modicum of power like that airport official?

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  August 10, 2018

        Relax. The Greens have banned forced marriages. What else could possibly go wrong?

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  9. sorethumb

     /  August 10, 2018

    Just before the arrival of the Canterbury Pilgrims in 1850, a detailed count in connection with land purchases showed fewer than 500 Maoris in Canterbury. They were distributed as follows: Between the Waimakariri and Ashley Rivers, 29 (mainly at Tua-hiwi, just north of the present town of Kaiapoi); Port Cooper, 20 (10 at Rapaki and 10 at Purau); Port Levy, 200; Pigeon Bay, 30; Akaroa Harbour, 60 (30 at Onuku and 30 at Wainui); outlet of Lake Forsyth, 10; Taumutu (Lake Ellesmere), 10; Arowhenua (Temuka), 86. A short time before the arrival of the settlers in 1850 many of the Port Levy Maoris shifted to Little River (Wai-rewa) and Tuahiwi, reducing the Port Levy community to about 40. In 1971 there were 6100 Canterbury residents classified as Maoris for census purposes, 4300 of these living in the Christ-church area. A feature of the present population pattern is the increasing migration of young Maoris from the North Island seeking employment in a congenial social environment.

    P.40
    Peninsula and Plains

    ISBN 0 7233 0010

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  August 10, 2018

      In my Chch high school of some 800 pupils there was exactly one Maori family. Ngai Tahu has made a lot of loaves from very little bread.

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      • robertguyton

         /  August 10, 2018

        Dough. But now they have plenty: celebrate their good fortune, Alan!

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  August 10, 2018

          Oh, they are good players Robert. Only good players are lucky as I’ve noted before.

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        • sorethumb

           /  August 10, 2018

          Still bad though, isn’t Robert!?

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        • sorethumb

           /  August 10, 2018

          The left has a bad actor problem: “they want to turn the tables of oppression” Brett Weinstein. Evergreen College.

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    • sorethumb

       /  August 10, 2018

      By 1853 there were 100,000 sheep and 400 cattle.

      Between 1858 and 1867 the total number of sheep rose from fewer than 500,000 to 2,500,000.

      P88 ,102
      Whose High Country?
      a history of the South Island high country of New Zealand
      Roberta McIntyre
      ISBN 13579108642

      The white supremacists got off their chuffs eh?

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      • sorethumb

         /  August 10, 2018

        I mean “we don’t know our history” -“all the land was stolen” “look who’s got the wealth” etc, etc.
        The Magpies
        When Tom and Elizabeth took the farm
        The bracken made their bed
        and Quardle oodle ardle wardle doodle
        The magpies said

        Tom’s hand was strong to the plough
        and Elizabeth’s lips were red
        and Quardle oodle ardle wardle doodle
        The magpies said

        Year in year out they worked
        while the pines grew overhead
        and Quardle oodle ardle wardle doodle
        The magpies said

        But all the beautiful crops soon went
        to the mortgage man instead
        and Quardle oodle ardle wardle doodle
        The magpies said

        Elizabeth is dead now (it’s long ago)
        Old Tom’s gone light in the head
        and Quardle oodle ardle wardle doodle
        The magpies said

        The farm’s still there. Mortgage corporations
        couldn’t give it away
        and Quardle oodle ardle wardle doodle
        The magpies say.

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      • sorethumb

         /  August 10, 2018

        4000 cattle

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  10. sorethumb

     /  August 10, 2018

    One thing he is clear about is that the demographic changes set to occur in Christchurch could transform the city infamous for its white supremacist National Front movement. While Christchurch does have small ethnic enclaves, hosting lantern festivals for Chinese New Year and Diwali festivals for the Indian community, the scale of the anticipated migrant influx is unparalleled in its history.

    http://www.massey.ac.nz/massey/about-massey/news/article.cfm?mnarticle_uuid=86EB3C7F-B375-B8DF-A111-53B3788C75E5

    Bold young men drove sheep on to the vast grazing runs to found pastoral empires and land owning dynasties. Out of the wealth from the squatters’ wool clips, and from wheat when the tussock was ploughed, grew a city of scholarship, grace and dignity

    Professor Kenneth Cumberland
    Landmarks

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  August 10, 2018

      Good history, st. You might teach Gezza something.

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      • Gezza

         /  August 10, 2018

        “After a bachelor’s in geography at Nottingham University College and a MSc at University College, London, Cumberland emigrated to Canterbury College, Christchuch (now the University of Canterbury) immediately before the outbreak of World War II. After the war he moved to Auckland University College (now the University of Auckland). In each place he played a key role in the establishment of teaching of physical geography. After retiring in 1978 he made and narrated a television series, Landmarks, on the geography of New Zealand.”

        Pommy git.

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  11. Zedd

     /  August 10, 2018

    An all time fav.. this is brilliant acoustic/vocal & orchestral version; I’ve tried to pluck along on my acoustic guitar 🙂

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    • Corky

       /  August 10, 2018

      Damn fine guitar. Look at that Redwood sound board. Mind you, it could be made of chip board from Mitre 10, and Jimmy would still get a decent sound out of it.

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      • Zedd

         /  August 10, 2018

        I now prefer to hear the musos actually play their instruments.. rather than just ‘wall of sound’ remixed/overdubbed/box of tricks stuff.. I must be getting old 😀

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        • Corky

           /  August 10, 2018

          Nothing wrong with getting old, Zedd. It’s just the dying that’s a bitch.

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  12. Blazer

     /  August 10, 2018

    Al gathers his followers…trouble brewing…

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  13. duperez

     /  August 10, 2018

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  14. David

     /  August 10, 2018

    This getting to the stage of a total farce, Nash has set up yet another group this one is for small business. If the farcical government doesnt implement a business friendly policy very shortly from one of these groups it will be all over for them.

    “But he says a new 13-member Small Business Council was not set up in response to business’ plummeting levels of optimism.

    On Friday, Nash announced the appointment of the council which will help the Government develop a strategy to “drive improvement and innovation in the small business sector.”

    Never has NZ ever had a worse prepared, inexperienced and quite frankly dumb as shit government that has literally no idea what to do.

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    • duperez

       /  August 10, 2018

      There are a couple of posters on a couple of sites they could ask as they know everything. Or Mike Hosking, he has bounteous wisdom as well.

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  15. sorethumb

     /  August 10, 2018

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