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  1. David

     /  August 17, 2018

    Outdoing Obama, pleasing result.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/current_events/politics/prez_track_aug16

    I like other perspectives aside from slavishly following Brietbart and its interesting to dig into why Trumps approval ratings amongst the black community is rising as he is pretty much called a racist every time he breaks wind despite there being literally, aside from clumsy Charlotsville comments, no incidence in 50 years of being in the public eye.
    Perhaps the black community see through the oft used lazy liberal go to of label of last resort, maybe they like the dignity of work, there was a lot of disappointment with Obama and their neighborhoods are pretty deadly under Democrat mayors, they are not huge fans of illegal immigrants who compete with them for jobs, housing and crowd out their schools.
    Trump getting any traction with black voters or Hispanic voters is a mortal threat to Democrats who have largely taken their votes for granted, much like Labour used to do here with the Maori seats. Perhaps the Republican party should stop selecting only old male pale and stale candidates.

    • Sarah Sanders sorry for false claim that Donald Trump created more jobs for blacks than Barack Obama

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/08/15/sarah-sanders-donald-trump-more-jobs-blacks-barack-obama/995704002/

      • David

         /  August 17, 2018

        I dont see the point of this, the economy improved under Obama coming out of the GFC and has continued to hum under Trump.

        • Point 1 – another Trump lie debunked.

          Point 2 – some of the improvements under Trump’s presidency are continuing trends rather than due to his magic.

          • David

             /  August 17, 2018

            Sarah Sanders misspoke and corrected herself so a bit harsh to put this under the rather large and ever growing Trump exaggerates column and never said the job market didnt improve under Obama. Trump inherited a buoyant economy and job market and he has improved it from there with his tax reform and slashing regulations which he has done with gusto.
            As we know from here if the person in charge is pretty good then confidence goes up and things hum along, get a weak vacuous leader and things arnt quite so good.

  2. David

     /  August 17, 2018

    http://www.iwf.org/blog/2807164/Trump's-Approval-Rising-Among-Black-Americans–

    Sorry here is the link, dropped off the above post.

  3. Corky

     /  August 17, 2018

    Sweden sinks lower into the mire. The good news is two judges found against this women. So the spark of common sense and Western sensibilities still flickers. This follows a US judge basically allowing the concept of Islamophobia to influence his rulings.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45207086

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  August 17, 2018

      Why is it anyone’s right to touch someone else ?

      In some cultures, men kiss each other on the mouth, but I suspect that most men from other places would not be too keen.

      The judge in the New Mexico case (if that’s the one you mean) was upholding the law. It’s legal there to have guns, so she could hardly have held the people for that. They had done nothing for which they could be held. Islamophobia didn’t come into it, except in the reactions of Islamophobes who thought that these people should be treated differently because of their religion. In the US, it is illegal to discriminate on the grounds of race or religion, so the judge would have been breaking the law herself.

      The judge in that case was a woman.

  4. Griff.

     /  August 17, 2018

    • David

       /  August 17, 2018

      But who decides

    • PDB

       /  August 17, 2018

      It appears that if you are a far-lefty spewing nonsense the ‘free megaphone’ is available for use but if you are seen as even slightly ‘right-wing’ or ‘conservative’ it’s not – that is the real issue.

  5. Corky

     /  August 17, 2018

    So let’s do the numbers..the Koreans are. We’ll be no different. The demographics of the world will be completely different by 2050.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45207086

    • Corky

       /  August 17, 2018

      Sorry, wrong link for Korean story.
      https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-45201725

      • Gezza

         /  August 17, 2018

        It says Korean women, especially mothers, are treated like slaves of their husbands & in-laws, and that more & more younger women no longer want to have children or even boyfriends.

        “… Speak to South Koreans from older generations about the low fertility rate and the contrast in attitude is sharp. They see people like Yun-hwa as too individualistic and selfish.
        I start chatting to two women in their 60s enjoying the stream-side park that runs through central Seoul. One tells me she has three daughters in their 40s, but none has had children.

        “I try to instil patriotism and duty to the country with the kids, and of course I would love to see them continuing the line,” she says. “But their decision is not to do that.”
        “There should be that sense of duty to the country,” her friend chips in. “We’re very worried about the low fertility rate here.”

        Yun-hwa and her contemporaries, the children of a globalised world, aren’t persuaded by such arguments. When I put it to her that if she and her contemporaries don’t have children her country’s culture will die, she tells me that it’s time for the male-dominated culture to go.

        “Must die,” she says, breaking into English. “Must die!””

        There’s a lesson in that for Western men looking for g/f’s, wives, kids & grandkids.

        • Gezza

           /  August 17, 2018

          There’s also a lesson in that for Muslim women.

          • Gezza

             /  August 17, 2018

            But the problem is that the lesson is Islam will prevail numbers-wise if they carry on the Islamic tradition.

  6. Corky

     /  August 17, 2018

    Give Corky a helping hand.

    I have seen the new drink driving add on TV…can’t make heads or tails of it.

    It involves 2 bros on a porch; a bro staggering near a car; two old pakeha men fighting; a car with an arse farting, painted on the door; some dude on the bonnet of the car say”nech minute”; Jason Gunn; the theme of surfing and a pidgin English dialogue.

    😵😵😵??

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  August 17, 2018

      When ever you see true stupidity you can be sure you are paying for it.

    • Pickled Possum

       /  August 17, 2018

      Could not be any worse than this little gem from the past. What a waste of money that was Dave and his mates sound like the seagulls in the movie Nemo mate mate mate or was it mine mine mine!!

      • Gezza

         /  August 17, 2018

        No, I think that one probably hit home with some pakeha dudes. It should’ve.

      • Gezza

         /  August 17, 2018

        I don’t think any of them will ever beat this one, sis.

        After that one showed:

        “I’ve been internalising a really complicated situation in my head”
        “Puzzle time!”
        “Ghost chips”
        “Spoon!”
        &
        “Spacehead!”

        did the rounds of the office for months. But I thought the message to the intended audience was clear & was quite wittily but cleverly done?

        • Gezza

           /  August 17, 2018

          PS : “Legend” really came into its own after that video.

    • Gezza

       /  August 17, 2018

      Yup – I done seen that, neighbour. Danged if’n ah could mek head er tail of it meself. o_O

      “Lotta dollars done been wasted on ‘at dang thang!”, Eli sez – puffin’ on his dog & swiggin’ on his whiskey jar. 👴🏼 🍺

      • Gezza

         /  August 17, 2018

        I’m guessing the message is supposed to be it doesn’t matter what kind of dudes you are if your mate’s been on the plonk you should try & stop them driving. But it all gets a bit lost in the chaotic plot & characters, & I’m assuming the director unfortunately flunked out of some avant garde art school.

        • lurcher1948

           /  August 17, 2018

          Trouble,it goes right over the head of stuffy old persons who are not hip

          • lurcher1948

             /  August 17, 2018

            Trouble,it goes right over the head of stuffy old persons who are not hip
            NOT PAST MODERATION and i thought PG HATES SOMETHING,wait sorry folks i have upset STUFFY OLD PERSONS,WTF and dont put posts up about FREE SPEECH,its only in right wing minds NOT IN THE REAL WORLD

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  August 17, 2018

              It’s too long and tries too hard. I find it very boring and can’t see any sense in it.

              It’s too busy.

              One problem may be that the people are so strange that it’s hard to imagine anyone identifying with them.

            • Gezza

               /  August 17, 2018

              Are you talking about Lurchy’s comment or the drink drive video?

  7. Zedd

     /  August 17, 2018

    Ms Aretha Franklin has passed away (76) RIP

    a sad day in paradise 😦

  8. Zedd

     /  August 17, 2018

    • Zedd

       /  August 17, 2018

      just spotted it in the item list.. oops

      I heard she was sick a few days ago.. but only saw today she passed away ! 😦 😦

    • lurcher1948

       /  August 17, 2018

      Another,over the rainbow bridge

  9. Corky

     /  August 17, 2018

    Alex Jones and private media outlets are being taken out by Leftists and corporations.

    These guys reckon this will be a blueprint on how they will deal with Trumpy around mid term election.

    Some very disturbing allegations here.

    • Griff.

       /  August 17, 2018

      The only thing disturbing is you watch that crap.

      • Corky

         /  August 17, 2018

        Griff. The only thing they are talking about is being blocked by Youtube and other censorship issues. Now, either they are right or wrong. It wouldn’t be hard to check.

        I find it disturbing people like you have no ability to countenance anything outside of your cosy little bubble.

        • Griff.

           /  August 17, 2018

          Alex Jones is a conspiracy crank who gibbers nonsense .
          You might find it useful .
          I find it a mind numbingly stupid affront to rational thought.
          i dont bother with your links because I know they are either garbage or so far above your limited comprehension that you dont understand what they say.
          Your world view is.
          “Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig; es ist nicht einmal falsch!”

        • Corky

           /  August 17, 2018

          ”You Tube has banned us. They have stopped our account ( according to them)”

          And that elicits the above response from you with a bit of Kittycat added at the end for good measure!!!

          Dude, I’m glad you don’t bother with my links. They aren’t for Neanderthals.

          • Gezza

             /  August 17, 2018

            Jonesy’s got at least two websites of his own already plus acradio sho2 & he’s already shifted his hate-filled nutjob rants to other less-discerning video hosting channels. I’m surprised he got away with his crap for long but I imagine they just saw a lot of it as comedy that no one could take seriously.

            But I’ll have a look and see what PJW’s got to say. He’s not always as nutty as Alex. But he sure loves a good conspiracy theory too. I’m surprised all the deep state illuminati-run dark forces that have been taking Alex’s guns off him & killing him & his family for decades now haven’t taken PJW out as well.

          • Gezza

             /  August 17, 2018

            Yeah ok I had a look – about 5 minutes worth, anyway. Their site went down – for a very short time. It happens. Just their usual sort of tripe, beating up a nothing event & yelling they’re coming for us – see we said they would blah blah wank wank – trying to drum up more gullible halfwit fans, Corks. Enjoy.

          • Griff.

             /  August 18, 2018

            Image result for neanderthal brain size
            http://www.smithsonianmag.com
            Neanderthals are known for their large cranial capacity, which at 1,600 cm3 (98 cu in) is larger on average than that of modern humans.

            • That could be the Neanderthal genes that I’ve retained?

              How Ancient Neanderthal DNA Still Influences Our Genes Today

              Just kidding of course – it’s their humour gene I’ve got.

            • Griff.

               /  August 18, 2018

              Neanderthals lacked the social skills modern humans have.
              People like me with asperger syndrome lack the social skills modern humans have.
              http://www.rdos.net/eng/asperger.htm.
              Since the theory was put forth ongoing research suggests that the speculation may be confirmed by identifiable differences in genetics linked to the remnant genes modern humans retain from exposure to Neanderthal genetics

              There’s a gene cluster linked to advanced mathematics skills, information processing, logic, analytical intelligence, concentration skills, obsession–compulsion and Asperger’s syndrome. That cluster correlates very strongly. I can trace some genes back to the interglacial around 450,000 years ago, and others back to another burst of evolutionary innovation during the Eemian interglacial about 130,000 years ago.” She rambled on with endless details.

              Something wasn’t right. She was linking genes for advanced mental skills to Neanderthals. “I’m confused,” I said when she paused for a breath. “You’re correlating genes linked to modern human intelligence with Neanderthal populations. What am I missing?”

              https://www.nature.com/articles/453562a
              Corky kicked for touch and scored a home goal…..

            • Corky

               /  August 18, 2018

              Er, no. Gezza proved my point about you. Unfortunately you don’t have the evolutionary circuitry to realise that. But, hey..if it makes you feel better.

              I suppose I must point out your home goal. Quite unacceptable for someone like you who uses the scientific way.

              ”I find it a mind numbingly stupid affront to rational thought.
              i dont bother with your links because I know they are either garbage or so far above your limited comprehension that you dont understand what they say.”

              ps- thanks Gezza.

            • Gezza

               /  August 18, 2018

              No worries, Corks.

              Always glad to help out a fellow astral traveller. 😎

            • Griff.

               /  August 18, 2018

              “Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.”

              ― Oscar Wilde

            • Corky

               /  August 18, 2018

              ”Always glad to help out a fellow astral traveller. 😎”

              Lol.. we never are the same once we have experienced Ritz. You seem to hold normality together better than I.

              As for Griff;

              A wise man takes his lumps and moves on. A fool comes back for more.

              – Corky

            • Griff.

               /  August 18, 2018

              Yes corky repeating the rather fun comments i directed at you is giving me lots of lumps .
              Because I fell of the couch laughing at your poor attempt.
              Nah nah nah you are too might have worked at whatever playschool you failed to graduate from out here in the adult world not so much.

            • Corky

               /  August 18, 2018

              You seem upset, Griff. That also isn’t the scientific way. Remember: logical,rational and not playing the man is the way to go.

              Remember how this started?

              ”Griff. / August 17, 2018
              The only thing disturbing is you watch that crap.”

    • PartisanZ

       /  August 18, 2018

      Radical, progressive Leftists in league with inherently Right-Wing, conservative Corporations working together to “take out” truth-speakers … Yep, that’s plausible …

  10. lurcher1948

     /  August 17, 2018

    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
    And my posts ALWAYS get moderated just in case

    • Corky

       /  August 17, 2018

      We can’t have a loose cannon rolling around on the deck, Lurchy. Damn thing could run over someones toes.

    • PDB

       /  August 17, 2018

      To be fair Lurch looking at the ones that get through I’d hate to see the one’s that don’t.

      • Corky

         /  August 17, 2018

        There could be a book in those deleted posts.

        • Gezza

           /  August 17, 2018

          Quite likely a law suit or two as well, I shouldn’t wonder …

  11. lurcher1948

     /  August 17, 2018

    How did tRump get his finger on the nukes that could kill your grandchildren
    donald J. Trump

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    “They were all in on it, clear Hillary Clinton and FRAME Donald Trump for things he didn’t do.” Gregg Jarrett on @foxandfriends If we had a real Attorney General, this Witch Hunt would never have been started! Looking at the wrong people.

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    Donald J. Trump

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    Bruce Ohr of the “Justice” Department (can you believe he is still there) is accused of helping disgraced Christopher Steele “find dirt on Trump.” Ohr’s wife, Nelly, was in on the act big time – worked for Fusion GPS on Fake Dossier. @foxandfriends

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    Another terrorist attack in London…These animals are crazy and must be dealt with through toughness and strength!

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    When you give a crazed, crying lowlife a break, and give her a job at the White House, I guess it just didn’t work out. Good work by General Kelly for quickly firing that dog!

    There are idiots who think he’s a full 6 pack on this blog,wait wait they will post soon,

  12. lurcher1948

     /  August 17, 2018

    I could bet this person voted for the National party, a disgusting lawyer but the rich can have issues
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/105648911/lawyer-quentin-haines-admits-hiring-underage-girls-for-sexual-services

  13. lurcher1948

     /  August 17, 2018

    “Mr Haines has in fact turned his life around and … the offending that occurred whilst he was in the employment of his father’s company is now of historical value only,” Lang said.

    “I am satisfied that Mr Haines is of good character and is a fit and proper person to be admitted as a barrister and solicitor.”

    Haines is on bail until sentencing in Septembe
    HES OF THE HOOK,The old boy network WORKS,,,its alright when the right do it

    • PartisanZ

       /  August 18, 2018

      Oh no … Did they have a hierarchical social organisation … like Lobsters?