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  1. Gezza

     /  August 18, 2018

    Does anybody else here have grated cheese on their poached egg on toast?

    If not – what’s your excuse?

    • lurcher1948

       /  August 18, 2018

      First world problemq

    • lurcher1948

       /  August 18, 2018

      Gezza, try this one day, toast with Pics smooth peanut butter and tinned fiery flavored tuna on top of that as its full of energy…sounds disgusting but is very tasty

      • Gezza

         /  August 18, 2018

        Hmm. What does RED think of it? o_O

        I don’t have any peanut butter at the moment. Quite nice with jam sometimes, but crunchy is better for that combo.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  August 18, 2018

          Blackcurrant jam is the best. Or raspberry at a pinch, Other jams are too sweet.

          Birds love peanut butter. I found mouse poo in a large jar of it when I opened it, but the birds didn’t mind this and hoed into it.

  2. David

     /  August 18, 2018

    Nope, became lactose intolerant a couple of years ago, I miss my cheese.

    • Gezza

       /  August 18, 2018

      Ok. That’s acceptable – under the circumstances I doubt anyone can hold that against you. 😐

      • David

         /  August 18, 2018

        Blazer will no doubt find a reason, be the banking system or some such.

  3. I have a granddaughter visiting. She wanted me to tell her a rhyme she only partly remembered. It is a wee rhyme that possibly isn’t ‘socially acceptable’ these days.

    Fatty and Skinny had a race
    up and down the pillow case
    Fatty said it wasn’t fair
    because he lost his underwear

    Kids still think it’s funny – except maybe kids who have a habit of losing their underwear.

    • Gezza

       /  August 18, 2018

      Yup it’s up there with the best. 😎
      I remember that one. Kids still love rhymes.

      • Funny thing was our discussion started with her saying what her favourite rhyme was:
        Red sky in the morning, shepherd’s warning

        She said her dad told her – but she wasn’t aware of ‘red sky at night, shepherd’s delight’.

        Then I had to try and explain it was a warning only, not a promise – like weather forecasts in general.

        We had an extraordinary red sky here on Thursday morning.

    • robertguyton

       /  August 18, 2018

      This is the one us Richmond Primary School kids used to say,
      “Fatty and Skinny went up for a bath
      Fatty blew off and made Skinny laugh “

      • I’d forgotten that one.

      • Gezza

         /  August 18, 2018

        😮 Disgusting.

        What sort of Primary School encourages this sort of depravity? 😡

        Is it run by communists >:D

        • robertguyton

           /  August 18, 2018

          Best not mention the “Popeye the sailor man” rhymes then!

          • Gezza

             /  August 18, 2018

            Best not. Play it safe.
            —-
            Popeye’s story and characterization vary depending on the medium. Originally, Popeye got “luck” from rubbing the head of the Whiffle Hen; by 1932, he was instead getting “strength” from eating spinach. Swee’Pea is definitively Popeye’s ward in the comic strips, but he is often depicted as belonging to Olive Oyl in cartoons. The cartoons also occasionally feature members of Popeye’s family who have never appeared in the strip, notably his lookalike nephews Peepeye, Pupeye, Pipeye, and Poopeye.

            There is no absolute sense of continuity in the stories, although certain plot and presentation elements remain mostly constant, including purposeful contradictions in Popeye’s capabilities.

            Popeye seems bereft of manners and uneducated, yet he is often depicted as capable of coming up with solutions to problems that seem insurmountable to the police or, most importantly, the scientific community. Popeye has, alternatively, displayed Sherlock Holmes-like investigative prowess (determining, for instance, that his beloved Olive was abducted by estimating the depth of the villains’ footprints in the sand), scientific ingenuity (as his construction, within a few hours, of a “spinach-drive” spacecraft), or oversimplified (yet successful) diplomatic arguments (by presenting his own existence—and superhuman strength—as the only true guarantee of world peace at diplomatic conferences). Popeye’s pipe also proves to be highly versatile.

            Among other things, it has served as a cutting torch, jet engine, propeller, periscope, musical instrument, and, of course, a whistle with which he produces his trademark toot. Popeye also on occasion eats spinach through his pipe, sometimes sucking in the can itself along with the contents. Since the 1970s, Popeye is seldom depicted using his pipe to smoke tobacco.

            Popeye’s exploits are also enhanced by a few recurring plot elements. One is the love triangle among Popeye, Olive, and Bluto, and the latter’s endless machinations to claim Olive at Popeye’s expense. Another is his near-saintly perseverance in overcoming any obstacle to please Olive, who often renounces Popeye for Bluto’s dime-store advances. She is the only character that Popeye will permit to give him a thumping. Finally, Popeye usually uncovers villainous plots by accidentally sneaking up on the antagonists as they brag about or lay out their schemes. – Wikipedia

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  August 18, 2018

      Don’t tell me that that fhe Fatty & Skinny rhyme is still extant..I had forgotten the bath one; we had a slightly different version,

      A university friend remembered his father singing to them

      London britches falling down, falling down, falling down,
      London britches falling down,
      My bare botty.

      This seemed the height of wit to him and the other children. It was probably old when his father was a child.

      When I was a primary school, it was the height of wit to change the words of
      ‘This old man, he played one/He played knickknack on my drum’ to ‘he played knicknack on my bum (and poo and wee for two and three)

  4. Gezza

     /  August 18, 2018

    Blimmin facebook. Can never get images on there to post.

    • Corky

       /  August 18, 2018

      Circa 1975..remember it well…the tape was ”Don’t go breaking my heart” by Elton John and some shelia. The cassette recorder broke instead. Damn thing had just been brought back from Aussie three days earlier.

      • Gezza

         /  August 18, 2018

        Kiki Dee was the sheila. Mine was the car one. Kinks, I think.

        • Gezza

           /  August 18, 2018

          I managed to get the tape out in one piece and rewind it. It still worked after that but All Of The Day And All Of The Night had a slight flutter in the middle somewhere thereafter. And I treated the car tape player with great care & suspicion from then on.

          • Corky

             /  August 18, 2018

            Flutter..geez, that’s a word I haven’t heard for ages. Yet ironically some people are going back to cassette tapes. They believe the sound is warmer. I don’t know about that. All I know is I don’t miss the flutter and tape hiss.

            • Gezza

               /  August 18, 2018

              Dolby had got the hiss problem under control a lot by the time CDs happened. But the various systems for track select could be a bit hit and miss. They & the players were great for their portability though, Corks, if you think about it. You couldn’t whack a vinyl 33″ album on in your car or walk around with one playing thru your headphones.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  August 18, 2018

              Rewinding a cassette tape with a faceted pencil….what a pain that was.I don’t miss that at all.

              Cassettes were the cool thing to have. I remember my first cassette player; I loved it.

              (weeps) My Who’s Next cassette was ruined not long ago by a radio whose cassette player had a tizzwozz. No amount of rewinding could fix it, it was all stretched and ruined.

  5. lurcher1948

     /  August 18, 2018

    WAITING WAITING for a post from David Farrar, nationals attack poodle on the national party member who tried to shaft the tempory leader of the opposition Simon Bridges travel expenses , nothing zilch so i turned to whale blubber, so Farrar nothing isn’t good enough from the free spending National party
    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/08/hosking-on-nationals-dirty-little-leaker/

    • lurcher1948

       /  August 18, 2018

      Why is [use proper names for MPs] ALLWAYS” on AM, Duncan Garner is her new pimp,whale blubber has been discarded.Has anyone noticed the lack of politicians wanting to appear on Garners rightwing show from the govt and the poor bugger gets minows for the thursday dabate.Duncan Garners goose might be cooked and he will be replaced if the PM declines talking to him soon

      • Corky

         /  August 18, 2018

        Lisa Owen is taking over from John Campbell. She might be worth listening to for a man of your political leanings.

      • lurcher1948

         /  August 18, 2018

        JUDITH COLLINS PJ but shes proud of the nick name (CRUSHER)

    • Gezza

       /  August 18, 2018

      Today’s fearless polarising, controversial but highly effective journalistic award-winning effort by the oiler?

      Hosking on National’s dirty little leaker
      by Cameron Slater on August 18, 2018 at 9:30am

      Mike Hosking writes about National’s dirty little leaker:
      The word is things are focussing around a puddle.

      Everything else is just a copy & paste from Hosking.
      The man has no shame. >:D

  6. lurcher1948

     /  August 18, 2018

    USA USA USA but wait im moderated but feel free to use my posts PG loves FREE SPEECH
    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/17/middleeast/us-saudi-yemen-bus-strike-intl/index.html

    • Corky

       /  August 18, 2018

      Lurchy, there’s nothing stopping you migrating to Whaleoil, The Standard or Kiwi Blog. Don’t waste our democracy, son. Use it.

      Talking about migration..what the frigging hell is wrong with this dead beat government? They are slowly getting Christchurch on track again, then they turn around and burden them with this:

      https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/364368/christchurch-to-be-a-refugee-settlement-location-again

      • lurcher1948

         /  August 18, 2018

        Corky go away im NOT A MUSLIM , i have coin MAYBE FAR MORE THAN YOU think and my politics are fluid and im more passionate

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  August 18, 2018

          OOH ! Really ? tell me more, big boy.

          • Gezza

             /  August 18, 2018

            You better hope Mrs Lurch doesn’t see that !

            He’s married, you shameless hussy ! 😡

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  August 18, 2018

              Well, he said it :-/

              You can’t blame a girl for hoping.

  7. lurcher1948

     /  August 18, 2018

    moderation
    mɒdəˈreɪʃ(ə)n/Submit
    noun
    1.
    the avoidance of excess or extremes, especially in one’s behaviour or political opinions.
    “he urged the police to show moderation”
    synonyms: self-restraint, restraint, self-control, self-discipline; More
    2.
    BRITISH
    the action or process of moderating examination papers, results, or candidates.
    “coursework may need to be filed separately for the purposes of moderation”
    Overkill i think PG

    • I’ve been outside working all afternoon. I’m not available 24/7.

    • You’re lucky I do as much as I do for you. You’ve proven to be (and have acknowledged) you are too much risk for open slather.

      • lurcher1948

         /  August 18, 2018

        I could go with the flow and say yer yer yer, nasty right and left over every issure, but god SO BORING, PG you let me post but i feel i dont howl at the moon

  8. lurcher1948

     /  August 18, 2018

    Enjoy your evening PG, go the ABs enjoy life enjoy your politics its still FAR better to be above ground than below, and thank for the tolerance from the mainland PG enjoy you day

    • I’m going out first to watch roller derby, home to maybe see the end of the Black Ferns game and then the ABS, which will be interesting game with the Wallabies being talked up quite a bit – but it’s a strong AB squad too.

      • Gezza

         /  August 18, 2018

        Shit is it Bledisloe time again? I better watch.

  9. lurcher1948

     /  August 18, 2018

    Hi corky you as an expert know EVERYTHING about Muslims…educate
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-45209868

  10. lurcher1948

     /  August 18, 2018

    Kitty, JESS has legs UP to her neck,she loves tight spots to sleep,but where do the legs go

    JESS a little farm rescue”tri heading dog”cameo with TULLULAH and bits of my wife Lorraine

  11. PartisanZ

     /  August 18, 2018

    Oh no … Oh woe is me … You could lose as much as 5% on your house which has appreciated 300% in the last 5 years or so …

    ‘Liam Dann: Will Auckland property follow the Sydney slump?’ – #NZHeraldofDoom

    The health of our economy’s not based solely on Real Estate …. is it?

  12. PartisanZ

     /  August 18, 2018

    Oh look … a new Warehouse “concept store” in Albany … where “Maintaining value proposition is vital” according to Warehouse CEO Pejman Okhovat and where, according to a Chris Wilkinson from First Retail, ” … a new look and approach to retailing in an increasingly tough market was important for The Warehouse’s profitability.”

    “Value proposition”? Huh? What is “value proposition” …?

    “The value proposition in the persuasion architecture of the consumption landscape …”

    How will this new image “profitability” be achieved?

    Well … digital pricing labels, which reduces labour … and SELF-SERVICE CHECKOUTS … which practically abolishes labour altogether … Yay!!!!!

    This’ll go down a fucking treat in Kaikohe!

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12101817

    • Gezza

       /  August 18, 2018

      Well … digital pricing labels, which reduces labour … and SELF-SERVICE CHECKOUTS … which practically abolishes labour altogether … Yay!!!!!

      Four self-service checkouts at my local NW. I use them if I have a small amount of shopping otherwise I used the staffed checkout or the Express Checkout.

      It’s a well-run supermarket. Hugely popular. Has its own cafe, butchery, bakery, large deli, fish department. Staffed to the max. There are always enuf staff, and plenty progress thru quickly to supervisor roles.

      Staff are friendly and helpful and the atmosphere is great. Folk enjoy shopping & meeting in the place.

      Minor glitches occur all the time at the head of the four self-service checkouts. Two friendly supervisors are always on duty there & fix any issues instantly. It’s not realistically possible to have automated checkouts without human intervention to make them work efficiently.

  13. Gezza

     /  August 18, 2018

    A good read.

    Kiwi principal calls it quits: ‘There is just no money’
    Dane Robertson is shutting the door in an education career spanning more than a decade.

    A leading Tauranga principal has quit the profession, citing heavy workloads, under-resourcing and difficulties replacing staff as the reasons for his departure. “It is a job that never stops, and it is a job that no matter how much you give you always feel you could give more,” Dane Robertson said. “But it was getting to a stage where I was waking up at 3 o’clock in the morning checking emails. That’s not good.”

    Robertson left Kaimai School on August 17 after 10 years in the job.

    His departure comes just days after hundreds of Tauranga and Western Bay of Plenty teachers marched down Mount Maunganui’s main street as part of a nationwide strike for the first time in 24 years. A second strike has also been threatened to raise key messages including a need for more time to teach, a pay increase and more funding for children in learning support.

    Robertson had been thinking about leaving the profession for a couple of years before making a final decision in Term 1 this year.” It got to the stage where I felt I needed to do something different and Kaimai School needed someone new to come in,” he said. “But also New Zealand’s education is in a situation where they are not getting the teachers coming in, and the teachers are leaving.”

    More, for the discerning reader …
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12108722

    Reminded me of a comment by some principal the other night on 1ewes that the average age of teachers is something like 58 and over the next 8 years a large cohort will be retiring and there are not enuf teachers coming thru to replace them.

    Also that they are woefully under-resourced to deal with the numbers of damaged learning inhibited children who are FAS or developmentally damaged by P-addicted mothers who are now starting to show up more and more in schools.

    • Blazer

       /  August 18, 2018

      probably got a job as an RE agent..popular choice for headmasters..the local community know them and give them..listings.

  14. lurcher1948

     /  August 18, 2018

    GO THE ABs

  15. lurcher1948

     /  August 18, 2018

    Give him a job…he’s good
    http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-45219895

  16. Gezza

     /  August 18, 2018

    Interesting analysis by Simon Wilson

    Back to the future – the challenge facing National

    [National conference] delegates mostly seemed to belong to a brand-new group: the Post-election Blues. A group for people who, just now, find it a little bit harder to get out of bed in the morning.

    The signs are there in the party membership. During Sir John Key’s first election campaign in 2008 the party hit a modern-era high of almost 35,000 members. Now it’s in freefall. Since 2008, according to the published conference papers, the pattern has been to drop in non-election years and build again when it counts, although never quite to the previous level. In 2011 they had more than 31,000 members, in 2014 it was 30,000.

    In 2016 they’d slipped under 28,000. Key resigned at the end of that year and in 2017, instead of the usual election-year bump, they slipped further, to 25,000. Right now, the party says, they are at 62 per cent of an “ambitious target” of 32,500. Translation: membership is a shade over 20,000.
    … …
    Muldoon knew the thing that Paul Holmes knew, that Colin Mathura Jeffries knows, that David Lange knew and Helen Clark and Jacinda Ardern know, and Paula Bennett too: you need a strong, believable and singular personality. You dominate the room. You seem true to yourself. There’s no one else like you. When you’re there, everyone else lacks shape and colour.

    But you also need enough voters who like you. Why is Judith Collins not more popular? She’s a strong and singular leader, and she’s true to herself. She has lots of enemies, but – in the Muldoonist way – having those enemies should help her generate friends. But it doesn’t, at least, not in caucus, and presumably, therefore, not in big numbers in the wider party either.

    Collins and Bennett are the two MPs in the National ranks with the most obvious potential to barnstorm their way to victory in 2020. But the party hasn’t asked them to do that. Is it because they’re women? Or is it, in Collins’ case at least, that the party really doesn’t like her politics? Because her brand of neo-liberalism is out of sync with the national mood; her pronouncements on everything from crime to transport part of a bygone era? Maybe even Muldoon wouldn’t work today. Key and English knew it: across the political spectrum, we want our leaders to exhibit more compassion.

    Judith Collins is unlikely to roll Bridges as she doesn’t have the party support.

    So they have Simon Bridges. He’s blustery too, but he’s probably surprised even himself that he’s turned out not to be a barnstorming leader. And he won’t become one. After 10 years in Parliament he’s risen to a place where we can clearly see how unclear he is: what does he believe, or want to do? Why should we like him?

    He’s a strange mix: super-ambitious without the ability to show us why. Also, he does find it challenging to follow the logic of a thought. Radio announcer: “Let’s talk about Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux. How would you describe them?”

    Bridges: “I wouldn’t describe them. I wouldn’t give them the time of day.”
    “So their views are unwelcome?”
    Bridges: “Well I wouldn’t go that far.”

    More, for the discerning reader …(& possibly Al too)
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12107360

  17. lurcher1948

     /  August 18, 2018

    One for the tRump supporters

  18. lurcher1948

     /  August 18, 2018

    38-13 says it all …go the blacks