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  1. Gezza

     /  August 20, 2018

    Just a personal observation, PG – I really like your selection of self-service pages: World View, General Chat, Media Watch, Open Forum.

    I always have a look, and think they work well for you – some excellent articles and discussions often arise in some of those, as well as in your daily topic posts.

    Keep up the good work chasps.

    ⚔ Sir Gerald 🛡

  2. Corky

     /  August 20, 2018

    Life Lessons With Corky.

    So I’m at the ATM when I’m accosted by a young feral with a blanket draped over his shoulders. He said:

    ”Please kind sir, could you lend me 5..or 10 ten dollars? My car has run out of petrol and I need to get back to Auckland.

    Anger arose within me as my mind falsely associated this beggar with the Blanket Man.
    The Blanket Man was a sometimes vicious street person idiotic white middlecalss twats identified with and worshipped.

    Quickly coming to my senses I told the young feral ” no chance buddy.” Usually at this point the abuse will start. I steadied myself to control my temper. All he said was ”thankyou,sir.”

    So I called him back. I said mate your story sucks. Everybody knows you haven’t got a car.
    He asked how they knew that. I told him 10 dollars wouldn’t even wet the bottom of an empty petrol tank..but it would help buy a feed or smokes or piss.

    Knowing he was sussed, he asked what should he do. I told him it’s all about choosing the right type of people. I said forget about elderly Pakeha people..they hate you. Forget about Pakeha men. Forget about Maori men and older Maori people.. He interjected and pointed to bruising and a cut above his eye telling me a Hori ( derogatory: Maori about Maori) had ‘pinged’ him over. I said you can use that to your advantage. Your new story is this:

    Your dad is a P addict. He bashed you and your mum. Your mum is in hospital. You are meant to be staying with rellies, but they are addicts too. Say the only feed you get is what your mum saves from her hospital food. But it’s not enough and you are always hungry.

    Now, the most important bit. You only approach young Pakeha woman with or without children. Better if they have children. The next best group are well dressed Maori aunties. The problem with them is they’ll give you a tongue lashing with any money you get. The next best group are Pakeha nerds. And the last group are those you feel may be a soft touch. But as you know…get that wrong and you could be in trouble.

    I finished my discourse by telling him if all else fails he needs to dumpster dive ( he didn’t know what that was). If that fails he will need to steal and accept the consequences. But never ever rob because it’ll be lockup with some real bad dudes. He nodded and walked away.

    I believe it’s a duty for older members of society to teach younger folk to better themselves. Righties like me always get bad press about ”not caring.” This story proves that’s bs.
    This young man received sage advice from me.

    ps- awhile later I came back his way. He had a lady with a pram corralled. She had a empathetic look on her face. Unfortunately I couldn’t hang around to see how things turned out.

    • Blazer

       /  August 20, 2018

      you’ve got a heart of cold Corky.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  August 20, 2018

        And an over-active imagination.

        • Corky

           /  August 20, 2018

          Trolling again.? I just waking up to how cloistered the lives of some people are. It shows in their comments..or lack of content to be precise.

          • Corky

             /  August 20, 2018

            I’m*

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  August 21, 2018

            Yes, Corky, you are trolling again.

            Your comments have far too much content. Less is more; the longer and more detailed stories are, the less credible they sound.

        • Corky

           /  August 20, 2018

          Next thing you’ll be telling me is the above clip is faked with paid actors.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  August 20, 2018

            I used to live there and knew who the Blanket Man was.He lived on the streets, everyone knew who he was and saw him. When he died, it was in the papers.

            I found your story rather far-fetched and not very credible, especially the last part where you saw the man again. It’s not surprising that someone who’s not American didn’t know what ‘dumpster diving’ was. Try calling them ‘skips’, their NZ name.

            I didn’t bother to watch the clip. I saw the BM often enough in real life to know what he was like.

            • Corky

               /  August 20, 2018

              Are you calling me a liar..again?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  August 21, 2018

              Were people expected to believe that story ?

            • Corky

               /  August 20, 2018

              ”I found your story rather far-fetched and not very credible, especially the last part where you saw the man again. It’s not surprising that someone who’s not American didn’t know what ‘dumpster diving’ was. Try calling them ‘skips’, their NZ name.”

              Your ignorance is astounding. Why I saw him again was because he stayed near the ATM..have a guess why?

              As to dumpster diving. No feral street person calls them skips. They use the American name from movies they have seen. That is dumpster.

              Stop trolling..stop commenting on things you know nothing about.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  August 21, 2018

              It’s odd that this ‘feral street person’ didn’t know what you were talking about, in that case, if that’s the name they use.

              I’d say that anyone who hung around near an ATM and harassed users would not be there too long before the police were called. Who’d want to use an ATM with someone standing next to it who was obviously there to cadge from the person taking money out ?

              Are you a liar ? Well, would you believe this story if someone else told it ? Does it sound credible apart from the first two sentences ?

              We have probably all been approached by people on the streets in this way, I have, in quite a few countries. I was abused in Europe because I gave a beggar money….and she said it wasn’t enough.

    • Gezza

       /  August 20, 2018

      Which parts of that are true and which parts happened only in your astral travels?

      • Corky

         /  August 20, 2018

        All true. I left out some parts for brevity. Like telling him to only ask for $5 or less. I also asked him why he selected me. He said because I didn’t have the ”look.” Translation: no attitude in look or posture. No eyebright. Just a nobody…that’s how I like it. Having an attitude isn’t good for your peace of mind or safety. Sadly so many people have one nowdays. And that includes the middleclass.

        • Gezza

           /  August 20, 2018

          The attitude thing. Upper, middle or lower middleclass? And whereabouts are you in this pecking order?

          • Corky

             /  August 20, 2018

            Simple lower middleclass. One of he governments tax donkeys.

            Attitude is mainly a lowerclass thing. It’s for people who know something is wrong with their life..but they don’t know what. It’s also a defense mechanism to protect them from other lowclassers.

            Middleclass atitude isn’t as prevalent. It mainly centres around people who have tried and failed. People who realise their mediocrity isn’t enough. They will never enjoy fine wine, women and cars. Worse, they have to keep up appearances on a limited budget. Maybe they are in a worse predicament than their lowerclass brothers. That makes them sour and nasty. You can spot them at the cafe on a Saturday morning…they try a little to hard to be upmarket. They also develop a strange frown when the well heeled drive past in an expensive European sports cars while everyone else around them is gushing with admiration and envy.

            Have you noticed any of these traits in your travels, Gezza?

            • Gezza

               /  August 20, 2018

              I have retreated from the world in order to save my own part of it from the depredations of throngs or large hairless hominid apes who are monopolising all its resources & beating their chests at each other, Corks.

              Only rarely do I venture out for provisions or to sniff the air for females.

            • Corky

               /  August 20, 2018

              No doubt about it. The real world is dangerous place. First rule of survival… have a defendable stronghold.

            • Blazer

               /  August 20, 2018

              Ever thought of living in a …compound?

            • Gezza

               /  August 20, 2018

              Doesn’t that require compound interest?

            • Corky

               /  August 20, 2018

              I did until recently.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  August 20, 2018

              Where and what kind ?

              How did you escape ?

  3. lurcher1948

     /  August 20, 2018

    Jules Suzdaltsev

    Verified account

    @jules_su
    Aug 18
    More
    Since 1965

    Democrats (25 years in power):
    3 indictments
    1 conviction
    1 prison sentence.

    Republicans (28 years in power):
    120 indictments
    89 convictions
    34 prison sentences.

    Remind me again how both parties are basically the same?

    • Corky

       /  August 20, 2018

      The Republicans are better. Given those stats it doesn’t say much for the Democrats.

    • David

       /  August 20, 2018

      Goes to show how politically biased the justice system is there. Hilary admits to deleting 30,000 emails on an illegal private server and smashing her Blackberry with a hammer. Then she spends 4.5 million on a retired British spy to collude with Russians to concoct a ridiculous dossier and that is no problem yet without any proof and no particular crime Trump has been investigated for 18 months for collusion…whatever that is.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  August 20, 2018

        Urban myths.

        • David

           /  August 20, 2018

          Eh, she did have a private server, she did delete 30000 emails after the FBI asked her not to..remember the re opening of the investigation by Comey just before the election. Her staffer was granted immunity and admitted to smashing her Blackberry and its in he election disclosure that she paid through a law firm for the Fusion GPS dossier.
          None of those facts are in dispute by anyone…even Hilary.

  4. lurcher1948

     /  August 20, 2018

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  August 20, 2018

      It was a scarf. Horrible indeed. It must have been a very long scarf.

  5. lurcher1948

     /  August 20, 2018

    James Shaw is‘really furious’ female colleagues Marama Davidson and Golriz Ghahraman are being threatened with RAPE probably from impotent right winger SJWs sitting in their underpants in darkened bedrooms because the National Party leader isnt in power

    • Corky

       /  August 20, 2018

      How do you know they are Righties, Lurchy? JAG has shown the Left are very good at getting publicity….and playing dirty. They have an inherit nasty streak. And that’s before we even get to their paternalistic racism.

      Let me remind you once again I’m on record as saying National needed to sit this term out because Labour in its present configuration is the weakest it can be and will turn voters off for years to come. That is proving the case.

      So count me out of your bedroom fantasy. Now, closer to election time, with the thought of National being in power for 20 years..I may have to revisit that bedroom scene😜

      • robertguyton

         /  August 20, 2018

        “JAG has shown the Left are very good at getting publicity….and playing dirty. ”
        How, Corky, has JAG shown that the Left are good at playing dirty???

        • Corky

           /  August 20, 2018

          Riding a bike while hapu. Using another life for publicity without permission. That said, my grammar let me down. Playing dirty shouldn’t have been associated with JAG.

  6. robertguyton

     /  August 20, 2018

    “impotent right winger SJWs sitting in their underpants in darkened bedrooms because the National Party leader isnt in power”
    Where would they be sitting if National was in power? Perhaps it’s best this way.
    Death threats and other abuse is disgraceful and James is right to be furious.

    • David

       /  August 20, 2018

      National party voters are far to busy working and getting ahead to engage in the stupid crap the lefties do. Government is not much different in policy than National anyway why would we care and the only changes seem to be taxes on this that and the next thing which only hurt poverty stricken people who are Green voters.

      • Blazer

         /  August 20, 2018

        pssst David ,you may not know this but National hydrauliced GST to 15% when they were in power.

        • David

           /  August 20, 2018

          Psst and they cut income taxes at the same time.
          I Think they were labelled regressive by the Greens as they disproportionately fell on the poor but I guess for example petrol price rising because of one sort of tax is different if its another sort of tax. Lefty logic.

          • Blazer

             /  August 20, 2018

            pssst…take with one hand…give with the…other..as for petrol under National 17c litre ‘levy’.

            • David

               /  August 20, 2018

              Psst lots of beautiful motorways with a smooth surface for my Range Rover Velar. Tax away I dont care but the Greens need to think about the people living in poverty or does it not matter anymore.

            • Blazer

               /  August 20, 2018

              psst the speed limit on the motorway is the same for your Raj Rover as it is…for a 1993 Nissan.

            • David

               /  August 20, 2018

              surprised your 1993 Nissan can still reach that speed

            • Blazer

               /  August 20, 2018

              don’t forget my ..toaster…its better than..yours. 😉

      • robertguyton

         /  August 20, 2018

        “National party voters are far to busy working and getting ahead to engage in the stupid crap the lefties do”
        You don’t read Kiwiblog then?

        • David

           /  August 20, 2018

          Not the comments section no.

          • robertguyton

             /  August 20, 2018

            I can imagine why that is: full of the comments of National supporters who are clearly not too busy working and getting ahead to engage in stupid crap.

            • duperez

               /  August 20, 2018

              I think it is unfair of you to smear ‘stupid’ and ‘crap’ by seemingly attributing such lowness with them to associate them with many of the Kiwiblog commenters.

  7. Gezza

     /  August 20, 2018

    1ewes at 6 reports:

    The PM has announced there will be no annual pay rise for MPs.

    Her salary is just over $400k. She says a recommended 3% increase is not justified.

    Give that woman a medal.

    How MP’s pay is calculated is to be reviewed.

      • Gezza

         /  August 20, 2018

        1ewes said PM’s salary was “just over 400k”? Peter Williams obviously not too hot in the maths department

        “As of July 1, 2017, the Prime Minister’s yearly salary was $471,049, and the deputy Prime Minister would be paid $334,734.

        MPs that were not chairs of select committees were paid $163,961.”

        • David

           /  August 20, 2018

          She is worth every cent of that, I see its going to a committee to see what to do next just in case you thought these guys were actually going to make a decision on a way forward.
          On a different subject did you see the tweet the first boyfriend sent about the first baby.

          • Gezza

             /  August 20, 2018

            No I don’t follow the first boyfriend or the first baby. Actually I don’t follow the PM either.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  August 20, 2018

              I am surprised that she was legally able to do that.

              The SSC is independent so that MPs can’t be accused ot setting their own salaries, not that this stops some people thinking that they do. They don’t control it.

              If she is overriding them, it’s a dangerous precedent. It’s also very arrogant. I wonder if she consulted the others or did this unilaterally.

              Now, if they have pay rises, they run the risk of being seen to DIY. What a stupid move by the PM.

            • Gezza

               /  August 20, 2018

              It’s not the SSC, it’s the Remuneration Authority. Did you read the linked article?

  8. Zedd

     /  August 20, 2018

    When I hear about ‘the latest political sham or fake news’.. I think of this song:

    an oldie but a goodie !!

  9. Corky

     /  August 20, 2018

    Good to see the PM take my advice and get rid of the Maori sign language dude. Unfortunately the new woman replacement- while a better fit with her diminutive size- has ghastly dry frizzly hair. So again we have a visual distraction. This isn’t frigging rocket science, get it right ( no pun intented).