Tributes for McCain, tribulations for Trump

There have been many tributes for John McCain, from across the political spectrum in the US to around the world. He was widely respected person and politician.

Admiral James Stavridis (Ret.): John McCain Was a Legend Even Before He Was a War Hero. His Legacy Is Vital in Today’s World

All of that matters in understanding the man. But what is most important to me about John McCain — more than every other aspect of his long and eventful life — is how well he represented the seemingly forgotten center in American politics. We are so bitterly polarized today, but McCain could credibly reach out to both the left and the right. He could see both east and west, but he resolutely followed his own compass to true north. There are precious few in the American body politic who could claim that so truly as John McCain, and we are poorer for his passing in that regard above all else.

He is being accorded high honours:  John McCain to lie in state at U.S. Capitol, an honor bestowed on only 30 other people

Sen. John McCain will lie in state at the U.S. Capitol on Friday, a rare honor bestowed on only 31 people in 166 years.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell announced the decision of congressional leaders from both parties Sunday, calling McCain “a great American patriot, a statesman who put his country first and enriched this institution through many years of service.”

The last person to lie in state at the Capitol was Sen. Daniel Inouye, president pro tem of the Senate, who died in office in December 2012. Others have included 11 U.S. presidents dating to Abraham Lincoln, including four who were assassinated; two vice presidents; six other members of Congress; three military leaders; and the unknown soldiers from World Wars I and II, the Korean War and the Vietnam War.

However McCain had a rock relationship with President Donald Trump, and that was bound to come up.

Guardian: Trump-McCain rift clear as president sends brief tweet and heads to play golf

The rift between Donald Trump and John McCain remained painfully evident on Sunday, as tributes for the late senator poured in from world leaders and past presidents.

The White House issued no statement and Trump followed up a brief Twitter condolence to McCain’s family – sent amid the first rush of tributes on Saturday – with complaints about the Russia investigation and boasts about the economy. Then he headed for the golf course.

McCain’s wish that Trump not receive an invitation to his funeral, made public some months ago, remained unchanged upon his death from brain cancer on Saturday, at his home in Arizona and with his family by his side.

Instead, George W Bush, who beat McCain for the Republican nomination in 2000, and Barack Obama, who beat him soundly for the White House in 2008, have been asked to speak at the event, which will take place at the United States Naval Academy in Maryland on a day as yet unannounced.

In a statement on Saturday, Obama saluted McCain’s “fidelity to something higher – the ideals for which generations of Americans and immigrants alike have fought, marched, and sacrificed”.

Bush praised a “man of deep conviction” and a “public servant in the finest traditions of our country”.

News Corp (Australia): Donald Trump slammed for ‘narcissistic’ tribute to Senator John McCain

DONALD Trump has been hung out to dry by furious social media users over his “narcissistic” and “fake” condolences in response to the tragic passing of US Republican Senator John McCain.

Taking to Instagram to express his sympathy to the grieving family of Senator McCain, who died overnight at 81 years old after a battle with brain cancer, the US President wrote: “My deepest sympathies and respect go out to the family of Senator John McCain. Our hearts and prayers are with you!”

But the message lost any good intention when Mr Trump accompanied it with a photo of himself.

Next to the words, the President featured a full-length photo of himself looking pensively into the distance — and people are disgusted.

McCain’s death was always going to be a difficult thing for Trump to deal with.

That doesn’t sound flash but will be to do with complying with McCain’s wishes – one of the United States most respected politicians didn’t want trump at his funeral.

This is even more awkward now that McCain will lie in state.

49 Comments

  1. Kitty Catkin

     /  August 27, 2018

    Trump asked for this with his mean-spirited remarks dismissing the heroism of John McCain if nothing else..

    • Joe Bloggs

       /  August 27, 2018

      On the money.

      What kind of man is not wanted at a funeral? Twice… (Barbara Bush in April and now John McCain).

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  August 27, 2018

        I didn’t know about Barbara Bush.

        How dreadful to be so disliked & despised that people would not want you at a funeral where it would be expected that the president would be one of the congregation.

  2. “It’s atrocious,” Mark Corallo, a former spokesman for Trump’s legal team and a longtime Republican strategist, said of Trump’s reaction to McCain’s death. “At a time like this, you would expect more of an American president when you’re talking about the passing of a true American hero.”

    White House aides instead posted statements from officials other than the president praising McCain. By Sunday afternoon, the vice president, secretary of state, homeland security secretary, defense secretary, national security adviser, White House press secretary, counselor to the president, education secretary, interior secretary and others had posted statements lauding the former 2008 Republican presidential nominee. Former presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush issued glowing eulogies as well.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  August 27, 2018

      How cringemaking that is. Too shaming for all involved. He could have made a eulogy that was honest but didn’t make it sound as if he was John McCain’s greatest fan.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  August 27, 2018

        The crassness of using a photo of HIMSELF is beyond belief. Or it would be if it was anyone else.

  3. Joe Bloggs

     /  August 27, 2018

    And yet there are still douchebags out there who defend everything trump does…

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  August 27, 2018

      McCain was a jerk. As doubtless you thought and said when he was running for President with Palin, you hypocrite.

    • Joe Bloggs

       /  August 27, 2018

      I expected better from you Alan. Loud-mouthed bullying doesn’t magically make your comments insightful.

      History remembers greatness and sacrifice. Those who prefer acolytes over accomplishment and principle find their memory mocked if not buried. John McCain wasn’t afraid to lose. And because of that he often won. He won respect, he won elections, he won the hearts and minds of the people, he won a family that adores him and he won the respect of a nation that mourns his passing.

      Human beings invent heroes because we need them. They feed our too often suppressed desire to be better than we think we can be. The example of John McCain should give us solace, because he showed us that it is possible. Now and then there is a man against whom we can measure ourselves. John McCain represents a high standard, a standard that should be our goal, and we should thank him for setting it. Rest in peace.

      http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/25/john-mccain-senator-patriot-hero/

  4. Blazer

     /  August 27, 2018

    have to agree with Trump…getting captured in an unnecessary war is not particularly…heroic imo.

    • NOEL

       /  August 27, 2018

      You saying that every war was unnecessary?

      • Blazer

         /  August 27, 2018

        Vietnam certainly was are you saying the opposite.?

    • adamsmith1922

       /  August 27, 2018

      Were you born this way or did you work at it?

      • Blazer

         /  August 27, 2018

        you mean why don’t I soak up propaganda like you.

        Adam Smith indeed,an invisible brain…more like.

        • adamsmith1922

           /  August 27, 2018

          I have a brain,do you

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  August 27, 2018

            In the circumstances, I don’t see how anyone could have avoided being captured.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  August 27, 2018

              Trump is good at heroics but a failure at heroism.

              His war was spent draft-dodging because he had sore feet.

              I am anti-war and see no real point in the Vietnam war, but if I was Trump, I’d be shutting up about those who went to fight.

  5. NOEL

     /  August 27, 2018

    He was shot down in 1967. Wasn’t a lot of protesters around then.
    Said it before every serviceman would prefer crystal ball issue along with his rifle issue but it don’t work that way.
    The reasons he chose to serve weren’t far removed from the reasons that prompted WW1 and WWII servicemen.
    His actions speak the same.

    • Blazer

       /  August 27, 2018

      basically you are using the soldiers…’ours is not to reason why,ours is but to do or die’.

      Compulsory conscription was the method the wealthy used to get the man power to fight their wars.

      • adamsmith1922

         /  August 27, 2018

        He chose to serve

        • Blazer

           /  August 27, 2018

          shot down.

          • adamsmith1922

             /  August 27, 2018

            He was a hero, tortured and kept in solitary. You may not have agreed with his political stance, but he was a great man,flawed probably,but still great.

            • Blazer

               /  August 27, 2018

              do you ever wonder why so many in the U.S military commit suicide?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  August 27, 2018

              We know he was tortuted because he recorded propaganda pieces for the Viet Cong. Why him and not others? Was it because of his father?

      • NOEL

         /  August 27, 2018

        Ahh so you are talking about all wars.
        WW1,WW2 and Vietnam all had conscription.
        Heroism in all had similar measures.

        • Blazer

           /  August 27, 2018

          so what was the root cause of these do you think?

          The reasons he chose to serve weren’t far removed from the reasons that prompted WW1 and WWII servicemen.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  August 27, 2018

        ‘Hey, hey, LBJ/How many kids did you kill today ?”

        ‘One, two, three, four/ We don’t want your (not always the same word) war’

        And so on…..

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  August 27, 2018

          It’s rubbish about the wealthy and conscription. Being rich or well-connected made no difference, everyone who was the right age and physically fit had to go. Nobody (except those in reserved occupations who could not be spared) was immune.

          Nobody who was a man (if you call teenagers men; many of them went) was immune, I mean. Women were safe, of course, no conscription for them.

  6. duperez

     /  August 27, 2018

    I don’t know if you have to be a hero to sign up. Or go to war. I don’t know if you have to be shot down or imprisoned to be a hero.

    Given what he is like it clearly would have been heroic for Trump to be noble or say something noble about a noteworthy American who did his time trying to do what he thought best for his country.

    Trump hasn’t got the hero bit anywhere about him but you have to acknowledge he has arsehole off down to a T.

  7. seer

     /  August 27, 2018

    Someone wrote “McCains’s tumor has been nominated for a Nobel peace prize.”

  8. seer

     /  August 27, 2018

    Well worth a read. The comments are a hoot.
    https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/08/mccain-goes-to-hell-finally-dead-assad-curse-strikes-again/

    John Key could be added to that list of the victims of the curse.

    Where does the expression “do not speak ill of the dead” come from?