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28 August 2018

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  1. Gerrit

     /  August 28, 2018

    This still has legs to run quite a distance, especially when the timeline is taken into consideration.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12114502

    “RNZ revealed at 6 am on Friday that the text had been sent the week before, Bridges had a standup at about 9.30 am and revealed he had referred the text to the police, Ardern made her comments about the National Party at about 10 am, Mallard spoke to Simon Bridges at 11.30 am, Mallard spoke to the Prime Minister at 11.45 am, and he issued his statement cancelling the inquiry about 12.45 pm.”

    When parliament resumes question time is going to be interesting as National forces the speakers hand (through questions to Ardern) to front up why the inquiry is not going ahead.

    I think the focus is going to be on

    “But the security of the parliamentary communications system was still a significant worry particularly over the next two years when the party would be engaged in policy formation.”

    Is parliamentary communications part of the speakers responsibility?

    Also note the deafening silence from NZFirst. Labour doing the bidding for Peters? This type of shenanigans is right up Peters alley and to have him not utter a word is interesting.

    I think that National know who the leaker (no not a National Caucus member) is and are playing the long game.

  2. Griff.

     /  August 28, 2018

    The future .
    Jay says he wants one…now.
    Why would you buy an exotic fossil fuel burning dinosaur when this beats it in every single way.
    Except it is cheap to run,no expensive servicing and doesn’t wake the neighbors.

    • Gerrit

       /  August 28, 2018

      Noise and the thumping rhythm of a full blat of throttle.

      When you stand next to nitro breathing monster that shakes your bones and assaults the senses, the whine of an electric motor is so passe.

      • Griff.

         /  August 28, 2018

        Meh
        Chipped dodge demon vrs stock 4 door luxury family sedan.
        http://speedsociety.com/840hp-dodge-demon-vs-tesla-model-s-p100d-1-4-mile-drag-racing/

        • Gerrit

           /  August 28, 2018

          Nah, you want the rumble of a big V8 to get the smile on your girlfriends face as the motor shakes and rumbles up through the seat.

          Cardigan wearing metro males like the Tesla to signal their metronome monotone culture.

          Real blokes in their faded denim shirts like real cars.

          Oh, here is one. Real car, real bloke.

          It is not what is faster, it is what gets the juices flowing.

  3. David

     /  August 28, 2018

    I can see this ending well. From Stuff.
    “More than 2000 people have begun the KiwiBuild pre-qualification process for the first batch of 18 KiwiBuild homes.”
    No indication this will increase the supply of homes, ease things to make it easier to build or be anything more than Twyford buying houses off developers and selling them on.

    “Barclay also revealed that just 13 of the 97 proposals to build KiwiBuild homes the unit received had been rejected, with about half of the total moving forward and the rest still in discussion.

    Final deals have been signed on 14 separate projects providing about 800 homes over the next two years.”
    41000 people are now registered !

    • Blazer

       /  August 28, 2018

      the foreign buyers ban will bite and free up more properties.
      The tenancy revamp should help free some up too.
      Tax offsetting dealt with will help too.
      5 year brightline test will kick in.
      Need an empty homes tax,and a landbanking levy.

      • David

         /  August 28, 2018

        Foreign buyer ban will help at the margins but I dont think any of the others will physically add to the housing stock.
        Bare land should pay rates as if there was a house on there rather than the very low undeveloped value so a kind of land banking levy, but agree there should be a cost when there is an identified housing shortage. There should be a corresponding financial obligation for councils to approve development and provide services to the sites though.

      • High Flying Duck

         /  August 28, 2018

        Foreign buyers ban will lead to less houses being built.
        Tenancy revamp will reduce rental stocks further increasing rents.
        New tax regs will also increase rents for those who do not own
        5 year brightline will lead to lock-in of housing stock.
        Empty houses are a myth – the numbers haven’t changed in 30 years and mostly there is good reason for houses being vacant.

        • Blazer

           /  August 28, 2018

          foreigners have been buying existing homes…thats a fact…and once again ,they make up only 3% of the market! 😉
          tenancy revamp can not reduce stock unless landlords demolish existing dwellings.

          New tax regime may free up properties for sale to owner occupiers by encouraging investors to invest in other areas.
          5 yr brightline will subdue speculators.
          Empty houses are a reality..Canada do have the data.

          You veneer of credibility is so thin…its transparent.

  4. David

     /  August 28, 2018

    “Cohen lawyer backpedals on Trump-Russia claims, as bombshell reports called into question”
    So Clinton lawyer Lanny Davis lied to the press to give Trump a black eye, will there be any blowback or corrections or upset about this..of course not because its Trump. Turns out Trump didnt know about Juniors meeting as he always maintained.

    • Joe Bloggs

       /  August 28, 2018

      I’m not convinced the issue is with Lanny Davis – sounds more like an issue with cohen retracting something he’s said to Davis:

      Davis told The Washington Post that he cannot confirm media reports that Cohen is prepared to tell Special Counsel Robert Mueller that Trump had advance knowledge of the 2016 Trump Tower meeting… Davis did not rule out that his claims were correct but expressed regret that he did not explain that he could not independently corroborate them

      https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180826/lawyer-backs-off-claims-about-information-cohen-has-about-what-trump-knew

      and his earlier statement?
      “I believe that Mr. Cohen has direct knowledge that would be of interest to Mr. Mueller that suggests — I’m not sure it proves — that Mr. Trump was aware of Russian government agents hacking illegally”

      Sounds even then as if Davis was hedging his bets – I believe and that suggests — I’m not sure it proves

      But of course the alt-right spinners will have a field day and trump will continue giving himself black eyes

      • David

         /  August 28, 2018

        Davis is left with no bargaining chip if Cohen has nothing, it seemed a a deliberate move to shout to the rooftops and make out his client had all sorts of dirt which served 2 purposes, smacking Trump around and convincing Meuller the reduced sentence was going to be worth his while.
        After all the excitement last week clearly timed for the sub optimal result on Manafort the campaign finance violation isnt one and Trump didnt know about the meeting his son held at Trump Tower and Meuller has saved his investigation from being stopped and abandoned by the intervention of ex Clinton lawyer Lanny Davis lying his arse off.

        • Joe Bloggs

           /  August 28, 2018

          yeah its not the best look for Davis.

          but your second para is channelling BLOTUS:

          – Cohen attested in a federal court that BLOTUS was deeply involved in the campaign finance violations – which makes BLOTUS an unindicted co-conspirator

          – we still don’t know that BLOTUS knew nothing about the trump tower meeting so your claim there is bullshit

          – and Manafort’s second trial starts in 3 weeks time. Manafort was trying to negotiate a pleae deal with Mueller throughout his first trial – that failed abysmally due to issues raised by Mueller. That second Manafort tril will be interesting – it will dominate the headlines for the six week run to the mid-terms, and if any more dirt comes out on Manny then he could bring the House down. Literally.

          • David

             /  August 28, 2018

            An unindicted co conspirator is an innocent person, if Trump gets a spray tan so he looks great at a campaign rally is that campaign funds, if he buys a new suit is that campaign funds, if he pays off litigation against Trump University to clear his way is that campaign funds. We have known for months Trump paid off the porn star and the funds came from Trump Inc, wouldnt be the first time but not illegal. The star witness to this has changed his story numerous times and has just admitted tax evasion and fraud.
            There is no evidence that Trump knew about the meeting but even if he did there is nothing illegal or unusual about meeting someone claiming they have dirt on their opponent. Turns out the person misrepresented themselves and the meeting finished quickly.
            Manafort has nothing to negotiate with because Trump never colluded with Russians. Manafort signed incorrect tax returns it was slam dunk and there is nothing Trump related.
            For all the sound and fury last week we are still in the same position we were 6 weeks ago, 6 months ago Cohen is a bit dodgy and Trumps fixer, Manafort is shady and still no evidence of Russia collusion.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  August 28, 2018

        Suck it up, Joe.

  5. High Flying Duck

     /  August 28, 2018

  6. Patzcuaro

     /  August 28, 2018

    How about a gold coin day?

  7. lurcher1948

     /  August 28, 2018

    I feel the Alt rightwing Lauren Southern hasnt paid the money back but reading her history shes a seller of smoke and snakeoil,and your money was a donation…SUCKERS
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Southern

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  August 28, 2018

      What money has she not paid back ? I hadn’t heard that.

      She’s from Surrey, BC. Poor people in Surrey, how embarrassing for them. I have spent time in Surrey, it’s a pleasant place and doesn’t deserve to be known as her birthplace.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  August 28, 2018

        Good luck getting any money back from her greedy little claws. The donors might as well accept that that’s what they were. Anyone giving money to those two is indeed a sucker, and it’s hard to have much sympathy for them.

  8. Corky

     /  August 28, 2018

    She’s a Libertarian. That makes her cool in my book. The money has gone to needy children in Canada, to help deprogramme them of socialist tendencies. They also learn about climate change fraud and the evils of immigration. Money well spent if you ask me.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  August 28, 2018

      If she is using other people’s money for her own purposes. that’s called theft.

      It seems highly unlikely that she would be allowed to indoctrinate children into her evil, fascistic way of thinking, and how anyone could think that this would benefit needy children is a mystery. Or believe it in the first place.

      As her own family are immigrants (they came to Canada during the War) it is bizarre that she would see immigration as evil, although in her case one might make an exception.

  9. Kitty Catkin

     /  August 28, 2018

    How mean-spirited of Trump not to have the flag at half-mast and to make his daughter make the speech about John McCain. It makes him look petty and vindictive, which he is, of course.